Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[LeGenD]

So far Hezbollah is taking a backseat and letting other/minor groups to launch a few rockets from Lebanon to keep the Israelis guessing and somewhat occupied on the northern front...
Plausible deniability!

Few rockets? Hamas have thrown more rockets and demonstrated more courage in battles than Hezbollah ever did.

If Hezbollah joins than entire Lebanon might pay the price. Lebanon is already broke and it has internal tensions. It might all unravel.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Jewish ISIS and any of their supporters are in big big big trouble. Americans do not want to fight Israel's wars.

Jewish ISIS showed it's true colors to the world. That's not NATO army standards. Europe is appalled by actions of Jewish ISIS.

America has never fought Israels wars so that is not news.
Europe is appalled by all the war crimes committed by Palestinians and that Palestinians celebrates massacring jews.

 

[LeGenD]

I appreciate how difficult it must be for moderators given the numbers of posters involved but is the kind of bile we are seeing on this even allowed on here? There's racial, religious bigotry, celebrating atrocities, cheerleading war, people advocating mass murder and genocide. The kind of views on here, from a variety of posters have been abhorrent.

I agree with you.

 

[TopGun786]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711730914471092404

All hell will loose.

What about thousands of Palestinian babies murdered by Zios????

 

[kingQamaR]

Erdogan is the happiest man on earth now.
Even if Israel wins or not militarily, the IMEC corridor is now dead in the water. The Chinese would also be happy about this. This is the end of India and US's attempt at a belt and road through the gulf up to the levant.
Turkey will have a better chance of pitching its alternative economic corridor.

 

[TopGun786]

America has never fought Israels wars so that is not news.
Europe is appalled by all the war crimes committed by Palestinians and that Palestinians celebrates massacring jews.

Another shameless hypocrite.

 

[Gomig-21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711713828512112795

 

[LeGenD]

Time for Hezbollah to enter

Entertainment, right?

 

[PakFactor]

And someone correctly replied to Jason Hinkle: Because we are not our own govt.
Wonderful job, Israel: Dragging your biggest benefactor to its ruin and hatred from a billion plus people.


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A little over a decade ago, I was reading a book about an ex-Israeli leader (forgot the name) leading a delegation. He mentioned there was a meeting with French officials, and they acted aggressively against the Israelis in the 1960s. The leader of the delegation responded by saying that we still have unfinished business in Europe and do not think we've forgotten what was done to us.

The Jews of this time are different than the past; right now, they have all the pieces in their hands and will dominate foreign policy and bend it to their will.

 

[HGV]

Palestinians might disagree on some of the blockading because they'd love to bring in tanks and ballistic missiles. Can't do that until there is a diplomatic solution.

How TF are they going to bring in tanks through Rafah? What are you talking about?

2 million civilians being massacred is a gross exaggeration. Let's not over-inflate things to make a point.

No, it isn't. There are 2 million civilians in Gaza. They have no access to water or electricity.

And yes it is bound by the peace treaty because that would be a weapons violation if the border is wide open and not only supplies are crossing, but weapons as well.

Show me where in the peace treaty Egypt is required to impose a blockade on Gaza.

 

[dBSPL]

Erdogan is the happiest man on earth now.
Even if Israel wins or not militarily, the IMEC corridor is now dead in the water. The Chinese would also be happy about this. This is the end of India and US's attempt at a belt and road through the gulf up to the levant.
Turkey will have a better chance of pitching its alternative economic corridor. Lol

The Indian initiative was more damaging to Egyptian interests than Turkish. Remember, Egypt has recently invested enormously in the Suez Canal. And for good reason, Egypt is the only safe and stable sea route in the region. The importance of the Suez Canal in the region is undeniable and cannot be put on the back burner, no matter how much people cry or moan about it. If you want to make a plan in the region and you exclude both the Turks and the Egyptians from that plan, that plan is doomed to stuck in shit.

 

[Titanium100]

How TF are they going to bring in tanks through Rafah? What are you talking about?

No, it isn't. There are 2 million civilians in Gaza. They have no access to water or electricity.

Show me where in the peace treaty Egypt is required to impose a blockade on Gaza.

This is none topic

 

[LeGenD]

Erdogan is the happiest man on earth now.
Even if Israel wins or not militarily, the IMEC corridor is now dead in the water. The Chinese would also be happy about this. This is the end of India and US's attempt at a belt and road through the gulf up to the levant.
Turkey will have a better chance of pitching its alternative economic corridor.

Infrastructure is already in place. Economy and productivity is a need - it cannot be shelved for hot heads.

 

[Total Destruction]

They can't bomb anything on Egyptian side they mean on Gazan territories because they believe it is ammo or weapons but Hamas has tunnels for such things

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Egypt to send Caravan to Gaza and challenges israael

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711746119456182495

 

[vizier]

Previous wars started like some issue triggering rocket barrages from Gaza then israel striking several targets and more rocket barrages-more strikes with an increasing spiral turning to larger conflicts then cooling down. Last two years possible wars were averted although it became very close. Hamas forces didn't even strike back and escalate after some high value leaders from other resistance groups were taken down or from its own group. It is possible that they used that time to prepare for this type of event. This time however with a surprise initiation from Hamas now we are in the current situation. Regardless of the motive and conduct of the recent Hamas initiative locals living in Gaza have the right to defend themselves from the impending israeli land operation and the reserve the right to strike back against any indiscriminate attacks. Recent Hamas remarks say that they are open for talks and ceasefire. One reason that the other side puts forward to not to accept ceasefire and pursue land operation is that this kind of surprise attack with individual Hamas initiative can anytime happen again so they use this excuse to enter Gaza with the main aim to provoke Labennon to enter into the conflict and then possibly Syria and with Usa military backing gain advantage over all of them. This reasoning is flawed if Hamas-PIJ others are convinced and accepts some governing reforms to be made in Gaza so that will guarantee that individual decision from the Hamas or others will not initiate any future military conflict. For example without referandum or if it is not possible without a separate independant body elected by Palestinians in Gaza approving the decision to initiate the military operation war cannot be started by the ruling political party Hamas or anyone else. The rules should allow striking back proportionally after israeli air strikes without voting after the ceasefire is established. This will dampen down any future issue into developing a military conflict and act as a security check to stop quick decisions that turn to wars. The planner of this military op. and some other high value individuals that organized the event (not all Hamas generals ofcourse that will degrade resistance significantly so only direct planners) can accept to shift to a third country with security guarantees to not to return back to Gaza. If this type of offer stops further escalation like the land operation and initiates a ceasefire Hamas and other groups can accept this type of solution for the sake of saving Palestinians living in Gaza in my opinion.