Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

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loses on both sides, very sad

 

[Falcon29]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720498106519654837

 

[aziqbal]

The end of times are near

https://x.com/cricket_analyze/status/1720545891616956461?s=46&t=y0OFodoGxInwRRrH23SIWA

 

[Indos]

I am not questioning Islam, but I am questioning Muslims and the Islamic States of TODAY.

If the whole world has already agreed to give rights to Muslims to preach and convert people to Islam, why then Muslims and Islamic States of today not doing the same?

It is a political issue. And Islamic States have all the right to change the state-level rules according to time and need. That is why Islamic States agreed to abolish slavery too.

In simple words, these become severe double standards of Muslims today, and they will bring no peace, but only extreme hatred against Muslims of today. It will end only in bloodshed. Either of our blood will flow, your Muslim blood will flow or the blood of both of us will flow. And responsible for this bloodshed will be Muslims of today, who don't want to reform themselves.

Dude, many non Muslim live savely in Muslim nations.

If the problem is Iran, then blame it to Iran. As far as I know other Muslim nations are very tolerants.

No Muslim countries send weapon to Hamas except Iran. It means many Muslim gov also basically dont support Hamas. So blame it to your own origin nation who nurture this stupid group who just bring disaster to Palestinian civilians over and over again.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Prove it that my knowledge is weak. At the moment you are blaming me without any proof.
I will gladly indulge in religious debate, but I have to respect the admins/mods decision and rules of this forum.
You want to indulge in a religious debate with me, then ask permission from mods and open a new thread. Otherwise stop blaming me without any proof.

By the way, I also wonder, what knowledge do you need to see these double standards of Muslims:

The situation of today is clear, there should exist no Muslim Palestinian State under the influence of Hamas, where non-Muslims have to live under fear and have no equal rights to preach their religion and convert people to their religion and to criticize Islam. Where LGBT members are thrown down from high buildings while they also don't have any rights to exist. Where ex-Muslims are lynched and killed brutally for their crime of leaving Islam. Why should we ever support such oppressive Islamic states? Why should we not criticize the double standards of Muslims where they are quick to demand equal rights to preach Islam and convert people to Islam in non-Muslim countries, but are not ready to give us the same human rights?​

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Muslims want to talk about Islamophobia and invasion by Jews, then let us also talk about double standards and homophobia and Murtadphobia and Kafirophobia of Muslims.​

See, the fact that you are implying that murtads are given capital punishment for leaving Islam proves that your knowledge is weak. Murtads are only given capital punishment If they criticize Islam out of context or spread lies.

I don't need to get into a religious debate with you, but I think it's funny how 'Ex-Muslims' are so obsessed with Islam to the point that they make it their only talking point in life. If you don't have faith, then you don't have faith. Is it a coping mechanism for you to try and dissuade Muslims from deen so that you can self-validate yourself about leaving the religion?

Regardless, you need to have insaaniyat or humanity before Islam. Islam is not required to declare that stolen property is stolen and dropping bombs on infants is wrong. Unless of course you've lost your moral compass along with your belief in Allah swt.

 

[leonblack08]

I cannot read this article due to subscription, but here one comment, which represents my opinion:

A terrible state of affairs no matter how one looks at it. Out of those listed about half were actively participating in one or another form of active armed confrontation with the IDF, and were killed as the result. The rest of the victims unfortunately got caught up in hostilities and were not targeted. It is a tragedy nonetheless. This conflict should have been settled decades ago. it is a failure of the int'l community that financed both sides where severe economic pressure should have been applied to both sides to yield meaningful results within a short period of time.​

Moreover, you ask answer from me, but have you answered my question?

The situation of today is clear, there should exist no Muslim Palestinian State under the influence of Hamas, where non-Muslims have to live under fear and have no equal rights to preach their religion and convert people to their religion and to criticize Islam. Where LGBT members are thrown down from high buildings while they also don't have any rights to exist. Where ex-Muslims are lynched and killed brutally for their crime of leaving Islam. Why should we ever support such oppressive Islamic states? Why should we not criticize the double standards of Muslims where they are quick to demand equal rights to preach Islam and convert people to Islam in non-Muslim countries, but are not ready to give us the same human rights?​

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Muslims want to talk about Islamophobia and invasion by Jews, then let us also talk about double standards and homophobia and Murtadphobia and Kafirophobia of Muslims.​

You just deflected and did not really answer my question. What should anyone do when their land is taken away, their children are killed, fathers are arrested, no job, no future? When the political solution is being made a mockery of by Israel and has completely failed? What is the recourse? Just wait for the slow death? Move to Sinai and Jordan and live as refugees forever?

As for your question - Hamas was elected by the people of Gaza. If people of Gaza were against Hamas, they would cause riots against Hamas. But they did not. That means Hamas still carry the mandate of Gazans.

As for Christians in Gaza - there are many of them living peacefully with their muslim neighbours. They are in this fight together. Do you want me to show how they get spit on in Israel by Israeli jews?

As for the Alphabet people and murtads - don't people in West say follow the rule of land you are living in or move out? yes that is exactly what they say to us muslims living in the West. LGBT is a major sin in all three religions. People are against it and hence it is prohibited. If anyone doesn't like the law, they are free to migrate to Europe like you.

 

[Falcon29]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720546788824744401

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720543608296579112

 

[epebble]

It's easy to say this while sitting inw comfortable bed.
Palestinians are having unacceptable casualties and are losing the little left over land also.
This war is only benefiting Israelis.

This war is not benefiting anyone (except may be bomb makers). Israel will be destabilized for a long time. Gaza is ruined.

 

[lightning F57]

Air bombing or not, but Hamas has to be eliminated by Israel. Otherwise, there will be no peace possible as Hamas does not accept Israelis right to exist.

I don't think Israel is deliberately killing civilians, as this is absolutely not in the interest of Israel, but only interest of Hamas.

Hamas is intentionally using Palestinian civilians as human shields. Does anyone deny it?

And no, we non-Muslims don't want another Iran or Taliban or ISIS or al-Nusra like Muslim state under Hamas run Palestine/Gaza.

It is official you are one deluded individual. Israel is deliberatly killing civilians, DELIBERATELY. If you cant see that your are blind. The problem for peace is Israel itself the occupation must end.

And who are you to decide what kind of government the Palestinians want you have ZERO right to ask for anything.

 

[Falcon29]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720488107806478781

 

[Goritoes]

See, the fact that you are implying that murtads are given capital punishment for leaving Islam proves that your knowledge is weak. Murtads are only given capital punishment If they criticize Islam out of context or spread lies.

I don't need to get into a religious debate with you, but I think it's funny how 'Ex-Muslims' are so obsessed with Islam to the point that they make it their only talking point in life. If you don't have faith, then you don't have faith. Is it a coping mechanism for you to try and dissuade Muslims from deen so that you can self-validate yourself about leaving the religion?

Regardless, you need to have insaaniyat or humanity before Islam. Islam is not required to declare that stolen property is stolen and dropping bombs on infants is wrong. Unless of course you've lost your moral compass along with your belief in Allah swt.

every "ex-muslim" despite leaving Islam are obsessed with Islam, they can't move on with their lives but they make a decent audience over Youtube and social media platform to make dollars, behind every argument of alleged Ex-Muslim its always poor understanding of Arabic Language, Emotions, or less popular context.

 

[lightning F57]

Your knowledge of Islam is very weak, so it’s difficult to believe that you are an ‘ex-Muslim’.

Most ex-muslim were never muslim to begin with. This guy is trying hard to continue derailing the thread bringing religion into the mix all the time, especially islam. If the Palestinians wants to create a religious islamic state they can, he has no right to impose anything.

 

[Baba Google]

Killed Palestinians are martyrs and they are in good situation now.

Israel's interest lies in the silence and surrender of the Palestinians.

Being silent in front of the bloodthirsty killer will only make it easier for him to kill you.

You do not seem to me the follower of school of Ahlul Bayt, are you? What are you saying man?

Yes of course they are martyrs but collateral damage is not accepted in school of Ahlul Bayt, don't you know that?

Civilians are dying in Gaza man Civilians and Kids and Women. Don't you understand the difference between civilians and fighters?

Vilayat e Faqih is in deep deep trouble if they do not come out victorious I tell you.

 

[leonblack08]

every "ex-muslim" despite leaving Islam are obsessed with Islam, they can't move on with their lives but they make a decent audience over Youtube and social media platform to make dollars, behind every argument of alleged Ex-Muslim its always poor understanding of Arabic Language, Emotions, or less popular context.

And when you ask them how many rakaats in wudu? They say it's 2

 

[Falcon29]

Genocide Joe has lost his mind. Assuming he even has control over this. It's probably the Jew Pentagon.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720458205854085471

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720488107806478781

You see guys, activism and protests and sharing the news has a impact. You don't need to take up weapons or anything. It's public opinion you need to influence. Keep up the good work. Share on social media.