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Respecting the forum rules and not indulging in religious discussions is one thing, but mentioning the Political Situation of minorities is another thing. I have only mentioned the political double standards where Muslims are demanding the right to preach and convert people to Islam, but denying the same rights to non-Muslims in their Muslim countries.

I have done nothing other than what Muslim members of this forum are also doing. They also openly point out about Islamophobia in non-Muslim countries. So, what if we also talk about Mutradophobia and Kafirophobia in Muslim countries?

Please don't play this game of: Rules for thee but not for me

Not playing games, you are frustrated I understand but did you think the best option was to join a Pakistani forum? You could have joined an likeminded forum. So I ask again what are you planning on gaining out of this? Also you can’t clap with one hand. One on hand you have this kafiro phobia that you talk about but you yourself carry islamaphobia.


Trump can possibly do it if he's willing to take the heat. It would be funny though to see all of republican officials suddenly turn against him.

Brother he will be impeached the very next day. Also I remember when he made Jerusalem the capital of Israel.
 
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Bro, security council votes and the historic rhetoric that israel is our ONLY ally is an says differently mind you israel has a right to defend that you will hear EVERY western leader say. The same Biden is begging to get a 100 billion package approved.
There is always a public side and private side. It is sort of a 'marriage'. Secretary of State going to Israel means he is carrying some tough love message. Things have to change or else this facade of unconditional support will crack.
 
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And what Hamas did on 7th October ?

This is the beginning of the end of Israel.

Hamas: Israel committing 'massacre of century' in Gaza​

Thursday, 02 November 2023 9:33 PM [ Last Update: Thursday, 02 November 2023 9:33 PM ]

US Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) (L) talks with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) during a rally with fellow Democrats before voting on H.R. 1, or the People Act, on the East Steps of the US Capitol on March 08, 2019 in Washington, DC. (AFP photo)

Smoke and fire billow out of a leveled building in the aftermath of an Israeli strike on Gaza City, the Gaza Strip, on October 26, 2023. (Photo by AFP)
Hamas has said the Israeli regime is engaged in committing a "massacre of the century" in the Gaza Strip, which Tel Aviv has brought under a hugely deadly and destructive war.
Osama Hamdan, a senior official with the Gaza-based Palestinian resistance movement, made the remarks at a press conference on Thursday.
Within the space of 24 hours, the regime "committed three consecutive massacres" in Gaza, killing and injuring more than 1,000 people, he said.
The official said the Israeli enemy had resorted to dropping internationally banned white phosphorous bombs on the coastal sliver.
Ministry confirms Israel's deployment of white phosphorous bombs against Gaza's deployment of white phosphorous bombs against Gaza
Ministry confirms Israel's deployment of white phosphorous bombs against Gaza
The health ministry in Gaza, which has come under an all-out Israeli war, confirms the regime
The brutal war that the Israeli regime has been waging against the coastal territory since October 7, has so far claimed the lives of nearly 9,061 people, including 3,700 children and more than 2,300 women.
The regime launched the war after Gaza's resistance groups conducted Operation al-Aqsa Storm, their biggest operation against the occupying entity in years.
Hamdan said the Israeli regime falsely claims that hospitals across the territory host members of the Palestinian resistance in order to try and justify its attacks on the facilities.
"They (the Israelis) know they are lying. But they (the Israelis) want to use that [as justification] for more assaults on hospitals, such as the attack that occurred on the al-Maamdani Hospital," he said, referring to an Israeli operation that claimed the lives of at least 500 civilians at the facility on October 17.
At least 500 killed in Israeli bombing on Gaza hospital: Health ministry
At least 500 killed in Israeli bombing on Gaza hospital: Health ministry
At least 500 civilians have been killed in an Israeli airstrike on Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in the besieged Gaza Strip.
"We hereby warn that such aggression will have dire consequences, not only for the Palestinian people but also to an extent that the occupation may not expect," the resistance official warned.
'US partner in Israeli crimes'
"We consider the American administration and all those who remain silent about this entity's aggression against our people, partners in all the bloodshed," Hamdan said.
The United States, Israel's biggest and oldest ally, has provided the regime with thousands of arms consignments since the initiation of the war, and has backed Tel Aviv's ferocious attacks on the Palestinian territory as a means of "self-defense."
Washington has also been casting its veto against the United Nations Security Council resolution that calls on the occupying regime to cease its aggression.

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Algerians are too far to be fair. And they appear to be having some active conflict at the moment. But, yes, everyone will milk the cause while also actually doing some real things on the ground. It's probably part of the Morocco-Algeria dispute. Which is unfortunate in itself. Although I can't find myself supporting the Moroccan governments stance as it's beyond pro-Israel and sickening.
Morocco and Algeria also have to be wary of French neo colonialism. The African countries just to the south are totally trapped in French economic colonialism. Their monetary policy is dictated directly from Paris, using a French issued currency (CFA Franc), and anyone who ever resisted or tried to change (more than a dozen times) was assassinated or overthrown. Currently they operate 4 military bases in West Africa.
 
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There is always a public side and private side. It is sort of a 'marriage'. Secretary of State going to Israel means he is carrying some tough love message. Things have to change or else this facade of unconditional support will crack.

You mean the same Secretary of State who said i don’t come as an American but as a Jew? Come on.
 
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Not playing games, you are frustrated I understand but did you think the best option was to join a Pakistani forum? You could have joined an likeminded forum. So I ask again what are you planning on gaining out of this?
Your statement is non-related.
Discussing issues with not like-minded people is not a taboo, but you want to make it a taboo for me. Why? You are again playing the game of: Rules for thee ...
Why are you making such rules for me?

Only through discussions people of different opinions can understand each other. But in my case, you want to deny it.


Also you can’t clap with one hand. One on hand you have this kafiro phobia that you talk about but you yourself carry islamaphobia.
What Islamophobia?
Give me an example of my Islamophobia.
Criticizing the double standards of Muslims is not Islamophobia.
Criticizing Islam itself is also not Islamophobia, but it is my basic human right to criticize any religious ideology.
Only not giving equal human rights to Muslims come under Islamophobia (actually there exists no such thing as Islamophobia, but only Muslimophobia).
I am all for equal human rights for Muslims under Secularism, but are Muslims also ready to give equal rights to non-Muslims and ex-Muslims in their Islamic countries?
 
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Sad news, north Gaza officially separated from rest of Gaza and cut in two by invading Israeli forces


Hopefully lots of hidden tunnels allow resupplies of food and weapons into North Gaza otherwise it will be total siege and humanitarian crisis of epic proportions
i m worried those supplies would end up in the hands of hamas
 
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Your statement is non-related.
Discussing issues with not like-minded people is not a taboo, but you want to make it a taboo for me. Why? You are again playing the game of: Rules for thee ...
Why are you making such rules for me?

Only through discussions people of different opinions can understand each other. But in my case, you want to deny it.



What Islamophobia?
Give me an example of my Islamophobia.
Criticizing the double standards of Muslims is not Islamophobia.
Criticizing Islam itself is also not Islamophobia, but it is my basic human right to criticize any religious ideology.
Only not giving equal human rights to Muslims come under Islamophobia (actually there exists no such thing as Islamophobia, but only Muslimophobia).
I am all for equal human rights for Muslims under Secularism, but are Muslims also ready to give equal rights to non-Muslims and ex-Muslims in their Islamic countries?

You do realize that outside of Israel, iran and Morocco have the largest Jewish population. Pakistan has one of the most significant shakti peeths in Hinduism for which indian pilgrims come every year. Lebanons pm or president was a christian. So what’s the point?
 
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Bigger problem is no president can be elected if he is against Israel. Wtf dude 🤦🏽 .
For 2024, if Biden loses sizeable youth share of votes who are not bitten by this "Love Israel at any cost" bug, he will be skating on thin ice. He has many negatives already: age, economy, etc., His greatest fortune is his opponent may be Trump. But no point trying to alienate a significant voting bloc and earn international brickbats (and lose what tiny fig leaf of honor we may still have).
 
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