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You are right. Most of the responses paint a Muslim vs Jew picture in this topic and these minute details are overlooked.
Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023
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How is it overlooked when several Palestinian negotiators were Christian. Yasser Arafat's wife is Christian.
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US must have given ultimatum and specific instructions to all muslim countries
And enabled by countries like Turkey.
And what is relocating them to Sinai is going to achieve anyways? They are still going to be able to fire rockets at Israel from Sinai . In fact Palestinians colony in Sinai can prove 1000 times more deadly for Israel than Palestinians sitting in Gaza.lol. Can I get my 15 minutes back?
Here's the worst part of this comedy show we just watched; they talked about the zionist intel committee releasing that 3-optioned plan which one of them was the main one about locating the Palestinians into tent cities in Sinai, right? I know you're hot on that.The details are irrelevant since it's never gonna happen and the other two options also insignificant since that was all they talked about for the rest of that show, but just that one option I'll entertain.
The dude then goes on to talk about Sisi and feels the need to add that the only reason Egypt has a good intelligence service of its own since they warned the zionists about the attack on October7 is because how could they not, after all, Sisi is a dictator! Zapadapadooo loool! Mind you, these little nuances set the tone, believe me.
Then they discussed why they thought it would never happen and their main reasoning was because Hitler the 2nd needs Hamas to create division between Gaza and the PA to weaken the likelihood of a two-state solution should the PA control Gaza as well. Then that chick went on about the Israeli people will be tired of war and want to push a peace plan for Palestinian statehood and be done with all the fighting etc. and so Hitler 2nd needs Hamas to sustain the friction which causes fighting and infighting which weakens the possibility of peace which then helps him gain the support of his hawkish, rightwing Nazi party. FIne.
Prior to that was all the floating of the "Sinai plan" to Blinken and the European Union and how they would think that it would be a war crime in the form of ethnic cleansing and so on and so forth. Then the real hammer falling on the anvil for me was that it would ignite a war from the "Arabs". Not once in that entire 15 minutes did either of them two bring up the MOST IMPORTANT factor - EGYPT!!! It was as if Egypt, the COUNTRY that SINAI BELONGS TO, HELLLLOOOOOOO, didn't matter one iota what IT thought? Just that Sisi is a dictator and whatever else they think of him, but it was as if it was a foregone conclusion that it was completely irrelevant to mention the fact that maybe, just maybe Sisi and the Egyptian people might have a small, teeny weeny saying in the matter of transferring 1 million Gazans to Sinai? Just a little? The shameless arrogance and lack of consideration displayed by those two geniuses and whatever network that is, is beyond me.
And on top of that, even just as important as Egypt having THE ULTIMATE SAYING in how ITS sovereignty MIGHT NOT BE NEGOTIABLE TO ANYONE, let alone to THE FRIGGIN EUROPEAN UNION and not even think of the Palestinians themselves? They wouldn't have a say in the matter of forcibly moving THEM to Egypt? lol. Just the fact these two didn't even have the wherewithal to mention the relevance of the two most important parties in that idiotic and impossible idea (let's call it what it is, a war crime) and didn't even consider mentioning what they might have to think or say or act about it just goes to show you how absurd this was. Not to mention the pathetic stupidity of it all.
Let's just say for the sake of discussion that they offered Sisi $300 trillion to locate 1 million Palestinians to Sinai and he traitored Egyptian sovereignty (which is what it would amount to).......not only would the 110 million Egyptians revolt against him and slice him up into pieces & throw them into the Nile, but every one of us, including infants in wombs would pick up arms and head to the zion border to fight for our sovereignty. That was the most important element they should've discussed, not the zionists politics or ambitions or feelings lol. Crazy.
BTW, when does the statute of limitation end for you holding me to the tent cities?
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These dances show the Zionists true sick mentality.
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Hamas at one point was okay with a 2 state solution with the 1967 borders in place.
Israel kept building illegal settlements in the West Bank.
Hamas accepts Palestinian state with 1967 borders
Khaled Meshaal presents a new document in which Hamas accepts 1967 borders without recognising state of Israel.
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A lot of non-Muslims picking up the Quran after the Palestine events. Many of our lost brothers and sisters, Muslims, around the world will be replaced by new Muslims.
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Israeli airstrike in Jenin, West Bank moments ago, multiple Palestinians reported killed:
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Urgent| Israeli bombing of Jenin camp, and there are casualties.
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Urgent| Israeli bombing of Jenin camp, and there are casualties.
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Oh my goodness, listen to this genius doomsday plan. Ooof.
Talk about the worst of the worst filth. The ultimate cretin of vermin infestation. A pile of nothing but fecal matter in the makeup of that abomination. A dung beetle has more dignity than this cockroach. An overgrowth of a sweaty swine mole. The true definition of a jackboot thug pig is this vile infection of an unfortunate living violation in the form of an earthly bacterial scum-sucking hog.
The fact that this foul slosh of puke has been allowed to run his hate-filled genocidal stink breath for as long as IT has, is telling of the portion of that society. IT makes Netanyahu look like a choir boy.
The statute of limitations is when Al-Quds is freed because it’s not over till it’s over
Very good analysis, and comes back to my original point that they (these hosts specifically but the west in general) don’t respect the autonomy/agency/interests of the Arab nations or their leaders. The lady is more respectful and seem to genuinely care for the regular people, but the guy seems to be a policy wonk not unlike Hillary Clinton, whom I’ve met and could see parallel with this guy; having no problem telling the masses what to do.
They see all these nations as “pliant regimes” that should operate within the boundaries expected of them by the U.S.
The guy actually lived for some time in a gulf Arab country and basically considers the GCC to be severely backwards (I don’t recall what exact wording he used, it was in a segment discussing the Biden-MBS relationship).
The surprise with this plan is not its sheer arrogance, which is par for the course coming from Israel, but the audacity that with the Carte Blanche being given by the west, how far it is expected to be taken seriously. 50 years ago, Kissinger came as a Secretary of State and didn’t mention his ethnic background, but Blinken starts with that. Basically the west sees the Arabs as two groups, the rich GCC willing to spend to no end in exchange for keeping all threats to their rule at bay, and the rest which are to muddle along (not unlike Pakistan) and ek out whatever living they can manage. Neither are to question that status quo and be ready to accommodate “because we give you aid”.
If there was ever a time for the Arabs to have common cause and stand up for their dignity, now would be it.
This is true. I do think there is a limit to how far the two Arab groups will acquiesce, especially the rich ones. They hold a bit more power than just their wealth as long as the electric revolution is not totally fulfilled. Once that gets reduced to around 30% or so, then they'll be castrated to half their current power and then might as well have US representative inside their own governments, offices & palaces included.
The other group has certain levels of strength within their contingent. Some have strategic power & influence while others might have the eastern hemisphere's alliance, even if it's not as influential and hegemonic as the US'. But overall, I can't say I disagree much with what you described. And it most certainly influences the minds of those types of people like the two on that show like you said. The arrogance is also stifling.
You met the wicked whacked out witch of the west? That must've been a frightening experience.
That's very cool and now I'm curious as to the setting of that meet. And to mention that on Halloween! lol. I'll have to tag you on the US politics thread and see if I can pick your brains about that a little.And may I add that God help us all we never have to live long enough to witness the likes of this young generation occupying any form of political power where they can affect the likes of doomsday decisions like the ones we just read. In all honesty, I'm ashamed that even came from my own countryman. If that's what we have to look forward to, we don't stand a chance and I hope I'm not around when the time comes.
What we need today are the likes of people like John F. Kennedy, Mahatma Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, Anwar Sadat, Abraham Lincoln and so on. The true heroes and advocates of peace. Heroes who had the courage to go to war to achieve peace without destroying the world. This young generation is so far removed from that noble concept it's as sad as it is frightening for the prospect of our children's future.
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