Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[Foinikas]

You should know, if not from other wars of independence where the enslaved/subjugated fought against heavy odds and won, then from your own War of Independence against the Turkish occupation that 'the wall' can be brought down!!
Barely two years ago, the Taliban did the same, however one tries to deny them their that achievement!!

Both of them were completely different situations.

First of all,we weren't isolated in tiny locations. We had more of less control of the islands and their merchant fleets which turned to battle fleets. Our mountainous terrain was suitable for guerilla warfare. The villages and towns in the plains and valleys were often devasted by Ottoman reprisals and Albanian raids. Apart from that,we eventually got help from big European powers. Britain,France and Russia. However,Greek revolutions that started in parts of Greece closer to the Ottoman heartland or in isolated places which were "cramped" with Greeks and Turks,failed and the rebels executed.

Revolutions in Macedonia,Cyprus,Crete and much 200 years later in Pontus,all failed.

Also,there were no aircraft and UAVs back then,no barbed wires and high walls,no precision bombs,no telephones and no long range artillery.

As for Afghanistan...the Taliban only won because the Western forces left. They basically fought against a corrupt government with an incompetent army. The ANA only had a few good and well-trained units.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Mirzali Khan]

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[Falcon29]

And Hezbollah and the resistance axis won't even fire one missile into Israel. They are gonna watch the genocide play out. No difference between Saudi Arabia or Iran. All rhetoric no actions.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716578693789659447

 

[Falcon29]

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[mehmed bey]

Both of them were completely different situations.

First of all,we weren't isolated in tiny locations. We had more of less control of the islands and their merchant fleets which turned to battle fleets. Our mountainous terrain was suitable for guerilla warfare. The villages and towns in the plains and valleys were often devasted by Ottoman reprisals and Albanian raids. Apart from that,we eventually got help from big European powers. Britain,France and Russia. However,Greek revolutions that started in parts of Greece closer to the Ottoman heartland or in isolated places which were "cramped" with Greeks and Turks,failed and the rebels executed.

Revolutions in Macedonia,Cyprus,Crete and much 200 years later in Pontus,all failed.

Also,there were no aircraft and UAVs back then,no barbed wires and high walls,no precision bombs,no telephones and no long range artillery.

As for Afghanistan...the Taliban only won because the Western forces left. They basically fought against a corrupt government with an incompetent army. The ANA only had a few good and well-trained units.

It does happen in every war, some forces leave and those who fought then and stay win. Pretty logical but knowing you I am not sure that logic helps

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Harsh reality

> In Asia people are watching football
> Cricket world cup is being played people wasting time watching it
> NBA season is about to start
> People are making tik tok videos
> People are watching youtube videos

The ultimate lesson here is , Life is cruel - no one will come to your aid unless you as a nation stand together and fight

• Human Rights
• Geneva Convention

Other laws become an Astrix , for people who have no arms to defend

The media will not cover the Lives being lost in Palestine

The Media will not cover their stories because their mistake was they feel Palestine is their homeland




Sometime I wonder what kind of a Miracle it was Pakistan? was formed by the same British Governance , that created the Mess in Palestine/Jews demand for homeland

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

if you love the jews so much take them to europe and keep them, why shove them on to other peoples lands?

5% of the Jews in Israel have ancestors that come from Western Europe.
If they ”go back”, some will be heading in Your direction.
About half those Jews would be returning to Muslim countries.
The ”European Jews” are mostly from the former Eastern block and I certainl6 does not represent the former Soviet Union.

 

[Falcon29]

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[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

These savage killings have also happened in Americas , when Settlers came and took over the land forcing local inhabitants into Desert

It is more noticeable now because we have videos and cameras and social media

Settlers were given Agricultural Land (For free) , while the Armies prevented Indigenous people from owning land , or hunt for animals. The indigenous people who helped the Armies were given temporary relief but eventually even their communities are neglected now 300 years later

The Buffalo creature was hunted down to extinction because the Local Indigenous people in Americas hunted for Meat of Buffalo

This is a real photo showing how Indigenous people of Americas lost their hunting animal and source of food (Stories were created that Natives vanished due to illness) but reality is they were murdered and killed by armies

Same happens in Palestine , as Israel continuously targets the orchids and tree gardens belonging to Palestinians


Israel and it's story of Settler outpost ,having support of weapons , follows the story of settlers in America how they took over the land by Gun powder and weapon , and they called the Local groups as savages




Israel tried to deny Palestinians right to return back to Palestine , i.e not issuing travel document , it is similar action that was done with Indigneous People of Amercas , as they were kicked out of their Land and sent into Deserts



The difference between that Ethnic Genocide and what is happening in Palestine is Isreal as more devastating weapons and Airforce

 

[mehmed bey]

5% of the Jews in Israel have ancestors that come from Western Europe.
If they ”go back”, some will be heading in Your direction.
About half those Jews would be returning to Muslim countries.
The ”European Jews” are mostly from the former Eastern block and I certainl6 does not represent the former Soviet Union.

Obviously they already headed in " our" direction . If not, there wouldn't be this thread. Also a big number of Eastern European Jews were expelled previously by the western European countries.
You are extremely uneducated. Considering all the money that Sweden spends on education it is shame then. Or maybe too many classes of Sex Education and tree hugging?

 

[Foinikas]

nd for the hypocrites like @Foinikas telling me above that 'Arafat didn't try hard enough' is just a plain lie!!!

Fucking stop calling me a hypocrite. Stop calling me a hypocrite. Grown men couldn't find a deal for 40 years! Both sides.
One time Hamas doesn't agree,the other time Israel isn't removing all the settlements,the other time Palestinians don't insist on more counteroffers,the other time Netanyahu wants Palestinians to have a demilitarized State.

Have you wondered that maybe you are a hypocrite for thinking armed resistance will help Palestinians win? After 50 years of failures? After 4 major wars involving the strongest Arab armies and 40 years of guerilla warfare and terror attacks?

They have come down to absolutely nothing! Not only that,they have actually weakened the Palestinians so much,that they are now on the verge of getting kicked out of Gaza. Look at the West Bank! It's full of settlements!

And think of the Palestinian problem from the side of neighboring Arab countries: Palestinians went to Jordan,they were causing trouble there,they tried to take down the monarchy,the PLO was kicked to Lebanon. They went to Lebanon. They started attacking Israel again and getting involved in Lebanon's politics. Egypt in the 2010s. Hamas sided with Muslim Brotherhood,the army kicked the Muslim Brotherhood government. Hamas went sour. Attacks against the Egyptian security forces.

 

[Mirzah]

5% of the Jews in Israel have ancestors that come from Western Europe.
If they ”go back”, some will be heading in Your direction.
About half those Jews would be returning to Muslim countries.
The ”European Jews” are mostly from the former Eastern block and I certainl6 does not represent the former Soviet Union.

take them all to europe this is your guilt of holocaust and Palestinians are paying the price.
if you love them so much take them to your home.

 

[Falcon29]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716583739239665825

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716585614231867798

 

[Foinikas]

It does happen in every war, some forces leave and those who fought then and stay win. Pretty logical but knowing you I am not sure that logic helps

Your english doesn't make much sense/