Game-Changing Chinese Missile To Pak Could Dent Navy's BrahMos Advantage

[Beast]

What i have learnt from history so far is that US make allies based on its own interest, once it has achieved its objectives it throws the ally under the bus. Currently US wants to use India to counter China and also wants a big piece of the Indian arms expenditure pie.

Comparing US with China for alliance is always a big mistake by some pakistanis. Do US has a neightbour called pakistan? No. Why would US care pakistan strive or not? But it cannot be say the same to China. Does a poor and undeveloped pakistan beneift far west of China? Do US has a economy route from pakistan to US? NO. China has, a route connected from indian ocean to west side of inner China. Why do u think China will abandon Pakistan like US?

True pakistanis , please do not trust any overseas pakistanis words. They are brainwashed to speak ill of China. Their action is meant to served their own personal benefit. If pàkistan is dead or not is not theirs business. They will be happily calling their adopted countries as their home.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

one of the best decisions by Pakistani Navy, and erodes India's 15 year effort in indigenizing and integrating Brahmos. What a master stroke, and akin to induction of Harpoon with surface and sub-surface fleet. Bravo Zulu PN.

 

[Han Patriot]

Air commodore khalid clarified Cm40pakg was integrated but was never inducted by PAF.
https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/996704837-jpg.299898/

Wwhy are you so afraid? China makes these like pancakes, we have even longer range and faster missiles, it's just that we can't export it due to treaty. Until recently, you were boasting with your Brahmos, the so called fastest missile in the world, nothing more than a rebadged Yahkont which we also have. And you think we never reverse it and improved it?

Unlike your Russian Brahmos, we are not at the mercy of anyone. Pakistan can have as much as she needs to defend herself against Hindu fanatics.

Our alliance have been in place for 50+ years, we don't abandon our allies. As long as China still exists which we have for the past 5000 years, Pakistan will never be threatened by anyone.

 

[GumNaam]

Air commodore khalid clarified Cm40pakg was integrated but was never inducted by PAF.
https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/996704837-jpg.299898/

So we went through the trouble of integrating it only to not induct it. Well considering that you believed that bluff, good job air commodore. good that the enemy thinks we don't have it.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Comparing US with China for alliance is always a big mistake by some pakistanis. Do US has a neightbour called pakistan? No. Why would US care pakistan strive or not? But it cannot be say the same to China. Does a poor and undeveloped pakistan beneift far west of China? Do US has a economy route from pakistan to US? NO. China has, a route connected from indian ocean to west side of inner China. Why do u think China will abandon Pakistan like US?

True pakistanis , please do not trust any overseas pakistanis words. They are brainwashed to speak ill of China. Their action is meant to served their own personal benefit. If pàkistan is dead or not is not theirs business. They will be happily calling their adopted countries as their home.

I have said nothing against China only against US.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

You know what missile will completely put the indian navy to its hands and knees. A strong and reformed pakistani economy, we can buy as many supersonic, hupersonic missiles as we want, they"ll just sit idel in an arms depot in karachi, ISPR will ocasionally release one of there 30 second none audible video clips abd some third rate news channel will misreport it, we need an elite economy.

Yes stop wasting time on a online forum and go do something for the new elite economy.

 

[Areesh]

My intention was more about being future ready to counter ever growing debt and influence from China. In any scenario Pakistani Navy has to be prepared with state of the art arsenal but it should be not at the cost of losing voice in front of china but rather by making wise decision to deal with equipment suppliers likes of China and Russia

PN is doing exactly that. Hopefully you heard about complete TOT of Milgem ships signed by PN. That is the step in exactly that direction which you are talking about.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Air commodore khalid clarified Cm40pakg was integrated but was never inducted by PAF.
https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/996704837-jpg.299898/

you are here since decade still you dont know how Pakistan declare induction of weapon system.

 

[Beast]

I have said nothing against China only against US.

Dont worry my friend. Developing the west of China to have stability, prosperity are future plan of China. They are not like going to be abandon in near future. Having a prosperous pakistan is part of the plan. US has no such interest. It is foolish for some to think China will behave like US for Pakistan.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Comparing US with China for alliance is always a big mistake by some pakistanis. Do US has a neightbour called pakistan? No. Why would US care pakistan strive or not? But it cannot be say the same to China. Does a poor and undeveloped pakistan beneift far west of China? Do US has a economy route from pakistan to US? NO. China has, a route connected from indian ocean to west side of inner China. Why do u think China will abandon Pakistan like US?

True pakistanis , please do not trust any overseas pakistanis words. They are brainwashed to speak ill of China. Their action is meant to served their own personal benefit. If pàkistan is dead or not is not theirs business. They will be happily calling their adopted countries as their home.

we know there is a reason we call then desi liberal or liberal brigade .

 

[SME11B]

At Mach 4, it could hit something 400km away in just under 5 minutes. Our AWACS can detect a plane at 400km, shouldn't be too hard to pick up a ship at that range.

It does not move at that speed the whole way, only a small portion at the end.

 

[Han Patriot]

It does not move at that speed the whole way, only a small portion at the end.

Read the article again.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

one of the best decisions by Pakistani Navy, and erodes India's 15 year effort in indigenizing and integrating Brahmos. What a master stroke, and akin to induction of Harpoon with surface and sub-surface fleet. Bravo Zulu PN.

Indeed it will be a masterstroke but are we getting them with our new type 54A ships ? I certainly think so but needs better confirmation from seniors.

Also Pakistan has so far clearly concentrated on sub sonic cruise missiles while Indians on Brahmos, though their subsonic programe, Nirbhay, hasn't yielded desired results yet. And why did Pakistani only opted for subsonic path is probably because we know, we can always have Brahamos equivalent missiles from China and this is probably happening.

 

[Han Patriot]

Indeed it will be a masterstroke but are we getting them with our new type 54A ships ? I certainly think so but needs better confirmation from seniors.

Also Pakistan has so far clearly concentrated on sub sonic cruise missiles while Indians on Brahmos, though their subsonic programe, Nirbhay, hasn't yielded desired results yet. And why did Pakistani only opted for subsonic path is probably because we know, we can always have Brahamos equivalent missiles from China and this is probably happening.

Well, Pakistan could have inducted such missiles secretly, who knows, the missiles are there, we can make as many as you want. Indians are still dependent on the Russians, and they will milk them before sending in over the missiles.

 

[Goku-kun]

Well, Pakistan could have inducted such missiles secretly, who knows, the missiles are there, we can make as many as you want. Indians are still dependent on the Russians, and they will milk them before sending in over the missiles.

I have always liked your posts and your explanation so can you please post a detailed comparision between indiot's junk brahmos and cm-302 and also that can Pakistan acquire 400km cm-302 due to MTCR.Thanks.