France's Mistral Warship Deal With Russia Is Off

[Gazprom]

India / Russia relations is kind of a one night stand

Still better than rape which Turkey was frequently subjected to by Russian empire.

 

[atatwolf]

Still better than rape which Turkey was frequently subjected to by Russian empire.

That is why they never conquered us

Who conquered India? Everybody besides Somalians

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@he-man

So now what precautions should India while finalising the Rafale deal

And if things get worse what if PUTIN asks India to CHOOSE between
Russia and France ie take More SU 30 / 35/ FGFA / AKULAs / and dump the
Rafale ; what should be our response

I believe India will be dragged into this mess

 

[he-man]

@he-man

So now what precautions should India while finalising the Rafale deal

And if things get worse what if PUTIN asks India to CHOOSE between
Russia and France ie take More SU 30 / 35/ FGFA / AKULAs / and dump the
Rafale ; what should be our response

U need to sleep putin,we will talk in the morning

 

[mike2000]

Well there is a difference between us.USSR literally saved our a$$ back in 1971 when the U.S.(your PAPA and master for well over the last 6 decades) nearly invaded us.Plus USSR was our biggest financial donor since independence.They helped us with literally everything even provided us with aircraft on barter system when we were running low in FOREX reserve back in the early 70s.So we are not an ungrateful bunch of people unlike some other ones to forget all the good things that the USSR did unconditionally for our country

lool I never said otherwise. You can still be grateful to Russia for all the 'help' it provided you until eternity. i dont have anything against that. But that doesnt means you should allow your country's interests to be tied to that. You can still let Russia know your relationship/interests does match more with that of the U.S/west/Israel/Japan these days than it does with Russia, while still trading with it as i said earlier. This doesnt means you have to cut off all partnerships with them, NO. You dont have to that, no country does anyway, since we all live in a globalised world.

Moreover as i told you, Russia did all what you mentioned because IT WAS IN ITS INTERESTS TO DO SO, they didnt do it because they like India/consider it as a friend. Same with the U.S/supporting the allies then intervening in world war II against the Axis, and even allying with U.S.S.R during this period, it wasnt because we loved each other, NOPE. we did it because our interests did match that period against the Nazis and Imperial Japan. When conditions/interests changed, the west/U.S again became rivals with the U.S.S.R(even though we had been allies/fought together in world war II). Same with Japan who turned from a nemensis to ally after the war, China turned from ally to rival/ennemy after the war. Interests always change bro, so do coutnries alliances as well. It has nothing to do with 'friendship'. So India should look only fater its interests just like Russia does. You will also note that China and Russia turned from bloddy border clashes/rivals/ennemies(they even almost went into a nuclear war together) in the late 60s to late 80s to friends/almost allies today. Now they ahve an even more closer relationship with Russia than India. Since they have much more common interets/world view than India. So we should always know that Countries will always follow their interests.

Though as a common citizen i do wish we in the world were all friends and lived happilly/peacefully ever after. But geo politics/life is different/not fair and will always be that way until judgement day.

 

[atatwolf]

IMHO India should buy this warship. Does India have the budget for it?

 

[Gazprom]

They have the muscle to do what they please

yaar ,this is not muscle .But stupidity to needle a nuclear superpower with a large nuclear and biological arsenal combined with multiple underground cities like Yamantau . But Putin has been too cool. He's going for the petrodollar which is the primary reason of US superpowerdom and its unlimited military expenditure. If petrodollar goes,then dollar reserve currency is finished and US empire will have two choices : Wage all out war against Russia or compromise and pay up the debts.

 

[mike2000]

@he-man

So now what precautions should India while finalising the Rafale deal

And if things get worse what if PUTIN asks India to CHOOSE between
Russia and France ie take More SU 30 / 35/ FGFA / AKULAs / and dump the
Rafale ; what should be our response

I believe India will be dragged into this mess

India should tell Russia to mind its own business. India relations with other countries shouldnt be determined/conmtroled by Moscow. So India should buy what it thinks better meets its own defence needs. Full stop.
Though according to some, China's Sukhoi 27 are superior to Rafale and can shoot them all down like a bird.lol

 

[Superboy]

IMHO India should buy this warship. Does India have the budget for it?

That would be a breach of contract and severing ties with Russia. At which point Russia would retaliate by supplying Pakistan with Su-35S for free.

But beware of relation with the US. CIA can instigate a civil war in India without much difficulty. India is highly multicultural

 

[duhastmish]

France committed a big mistake. They have made a contract and didn't fullfill it.
Russians never expected they were busy assigning commander and team for mistral.

Here Russia got taste of its on medicine let's see what they do when other got em by balls and not following deal contract.

 

[Gazprom]

That is why they never conquered us

Who conquered India? Everybody besides Somalians

Really? How did Turkey lose the Balkans and Caucusus then? How did Russia smash the turkic islamic races in siberia and central asia then. The only region with free turk reign is turkey and uzbekistan. The rest are under Russian Proxy rule thanks to CSTO and SCO.

 

[Gazprom]

@he-man

So now what precautions should India while finalising the Rafale deal

And if things get worse what if PUTIN asks India to CHOOSE between
Russia and France ie take More SU 30 / 35/ FGFA / AKULAs / and dump the
Rafale ; what should be our response

I believe India will be dragged into this mess

I think France will bow out and deliver the mistrals. India will not be dragged in this mess.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Russia can manage without the Mistrals but what happens to French reputation

 

[atatwolf]

That would be a breach of contract and severing ties with Russia. At which point Russia would retaliate by supplying Pakistan with Su-35S for free.

But beware of relation with the US. CIA can instigate a civil war in India without much difficulty. India is highly multicultural

IMHO India should put up the middle-finger to Russia and buy this warship anyhow. US can cause more problems than Russia can for India. India should show its true colors.

Russia can manage without the Mistrals but what happens to French reputation

In the west they will get kudos for showing a spine.

 

[Gazprom]

IMHO India should put up the middle-finger to Russia and buy this warship anyhow. US can cause more problems than Russia can for India. India should show its true colors.

Yes, Good idea. After it is delivered to india,even better we will sell it to Russia in exchange for more nuclear submarine tech . Maybe ,Borei the most silent SSBN this time.