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France's Mistral Warship Deal With Russia Is Off

The targeting pods of su-35 are not made by yomz but are procured from french and same goes fo the wide angled HUD.
Not to mention numerous small electronics,,,russians are simply going down if they don't make peace with the west.

Not just that, yes Russia does buy many high tech stuffs/arms/parts etc from us in the West. The thing is, Russia sure made a big mistake trying to go all out/head on against us in the West/U.S. The U.S/west are by far still the most powerful/influential block in this world, so it wasnt a god idea for Russia to go directly against us, well not without them being at least at par with the West/U.S. You simply cant take on the west openly/directly today and prevail(economically,financially etc), not because we are GOD or invicible or whatever. But simply becaiuse we got a head start and are far ahead all other major regions/countries, hence it will have been wise for Moscow to bide its time until its stronger/more powerful enough(or at least wait until it has powerful/big allies to back it up) to be able to take such aggressive measures without much consequences to it.

Russia should come to terms with the fact that its no more the U.S.S.R those days are long gone when they could take such aggressive measures and not be affected by anything we did, since they were as powerful as the U.S back then and had their own block(just like the U.S-WEST). Today things are different. So hopefully Putin will stop supporting his mecernaries in Eastern Ukraine and try and find a peaceful solution to the crisis while openly letting the separatists fighting for him in eastern Ukraine that Russia wont support any such moves anymore. Thats the only way they are going to lay down their arms and sit on negotiating table and be willing to compromise with Kiev, else this wont ever stop and will only get worse, which will also make the west/U.S/japan etc to increase sanctions against Russia even more, thus complicating thhings for Moscow further. Russia should have just stopped at seizing Crimea, it was more than enough for it. but no seems they stillw ant eastern Ukraine. This will be more complex than Crimea. so they should town down their rhetoric.So we can both resume our former partnerships.:cheers:
 
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India / Russia relations is kind of a one night stand :lol:
nah. had u mentioned that about India and US, probably, but India will never be able to move away from the Friendship. I can't foresee any government in India (BJP or Congress) ever adopting a foreign policy that does put Russia in background.
 
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Not just that, yes Russia does buy many high tech stuffs/arms/parts etc from us in the West. The thing is, Russia sure made a big mistake trying to go all out/head on against us in the West/U.S. The U.S/west are by far still the most powerful/influential block in this world, so it wasnt a god idea for Russia to go directly against us, well not without them being at least at par with the West/U.S. You simply cant take on the west openly/directly today and prevail(economically,financially etc), not because we are GOD or invicible or whatever. But simply becaiuse we got a head start and are far ahead all other major regions/countries, hence it will have been wise for Moscow to bide its time until its stronger/more powerful enough(or at least wait until it has powerful/big allies to back it up) to be able to take such aggressive measures without much consequences to it.

Russia should come to terms with the fact that its no more the U.S.S.R those days are long gone when they could take such aggressive measures and not be affected by anything we did, since they were as powerful as the U.S back then and had their own block(just like the U.S-WEST). Today things are different. So hopefully Putin will stop supporting his mecernaries in Eastern Ukraine and try and find a peaceful solution to the crisis while openly letting the separatists fighting for him in eastern Ukraine that Russia wont support any such moves anymore. Thats the only way they are going to lay down their arms and sit on negotiating table and be willing to compromise with Kiev, else this wont ever stop and will only get worse, which will also make the west/U.S/japan etc to increase sanctions against Russia even more, thus complicating thhings for Moscow further. Russia should have just stopped at seizing Crimea, it was more than enough for it. but no seems they stillw ant eastern Ukraine. This will be more complex than Crimea. so they should town down their rhetoric.So we can both resume our former partnerships.:cheers:

They have a gameplan and its uniting russia with china for the short term and making BRICS bloc more powerful in the long term.Who knows how it pans out.
 
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@vostok : in pure strategic terms, what role is Russian Navy envisaging with Mistral.
Also are there plans to build more ACs by Russia?
debate about the feasibility of this transaction is still underway. These ships - the weapon of aggression rather than defense. However, the works on marine version of the Ka-52 now almoust done and it will really be a loss if it does not find carrier. "Mistral" will be used for its intended purpose - landing ship, management, hospital, Helicopter carrier.
As far as I know, the construction of new aircraft carriers has been shifted to the period after the year 2020-2025.
 
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Not just that, yes Russia does buy many high tech stuffs/arms/parts etc from us in the West. The thing is, Russia sure made a big mistake trying to go all out/head on against us in the West/U.S. The U.S/west are by far still the most powerful/influential block in this world, so it wasnt a god idea for Russia to go directly against us, well not without them being at least at par with the West/U.S. You simply cant take on the west openly/directly today and prevail(economically,financially etc), not because we are GOD or invicible or whatever. But simply becaiuse we got a head start and are far ahead all other major regions/countries, hence it will have been wise for Moscow to bide its time until its stronger/more powerful enough(or at least wait until it has powerful/big allies to back it up) to be able to take such aggressive measures without much consequences to it.

Russia should come to terms with the fact that its no more the U.S.S.R those days are long gone when they could take such aggressive measures and not be affected by anything we did, since they were as powerful as the U.S back then and had their own block(just like the U.S-WEST). Today things are different. So hopefully Putin will stop supporting his mecernaries in Eastern Ukraine and try and find a peaceful solution to the crisis while openly letting the separatists fighting for him in eastern Ukraine that Russia wont support any such moves anymore. Thats the only way they are going to lay down their arms and sit on negotiating table and be willing to compromise with Kiev, else this wont ever stop and will only get worse, which will also make the west/U.S/japan etc to increase sanctions against Russia even more, thus complicating thhings for Moscow further. Russia should have just stopped at seizing Crimea, it was more than enough for it. but no seems they stillw ant eastern Ukraine. This will be more complex than Crimea. so they should town down their rhetoric.So we can both resume our former partnerships.:cheers:


How about no? What do you want? For the world to remain the same? For hundreds of years? For thousands of years? I'm sorry but nothing stands still. Even ants evolve. There will be war. There will be conflict. Maps will be redrawn. If you don't like it, go to Mars. This is the way it is on Earth.
 
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debate about the feasibility of this transaction is still underway. These ships - the weapon of aggression rather than defense. However, the works on marine version of the Ka-52 now almoust done and it will really be a loss if it does not find carrier. "Mistral" will be used for its intended purpose - landing ship, management, hospital, Helicopter carrier.
As far as I know, the construction of new aircraft carriers has been shifted to the period after the year 2020-2025.


Can Ka-52K be fielded on Ivan Gren?
 
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In another 20 years we will backstab our new friend USA too.................we are like that only:devil:

:lol::lol: You are funny man.:rofl:

Well i guess India is only looking out for its interests, just like every country should do for that matter. Its normal, nothing wrong in that. Each country changes alliances/partnerships with their changing needs. So i will expect India do that if its suits its interests.
Im just saying this to your Indian brothers here who kept saying Russia is India's 'best friend'.:lol: They dont know there is no such thing in geo politics.:big_boss:
 
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debate about the feasibility of this transaction is still underway. These ships - the weapon of aggression rather than defense. However, the works on marine version of the Ka-52 now almoust done and it will really be a loss if it does not find carrier. "Mistral" will be used for its intended purpose - landing ship, management, hospital, Helicopter carrier.
As far as I know, the construction of new aircraft carriers has been shifted to the period after the year 2020-2025.
any specific theaters where such huge Helicopter Carriers might be intended for?
 
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:lol::lol: You are funny man.:rofl:

Well i guess India is only looking out for its interests, just like every country should do for that matter. Its normal, nothing wrong in that. Each country changes alliances/partnerships with their changing needs. So i will expect India do that if its suits its interests.
Im just saying this to your Indian brothers here who kept saying Russia is India's 'best friend'.:lol: They dont know there is no such thing in geo politics.:big_boss:

Still there are some considerations to be made as russia indeed brings nostalgia to many indians and they truly saved our ar*e from usa that time in 1971.

But yes times are changing,we are a developing country and quite poor on the top of that so we cannot afford to piss of the cash cow's of the world quite literally speaking.

But with signing of pakfa contract we will effectively put down about 35 billion over next 20 years in russian kitty not to mention various other projects so we are not really leaving them.
 
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You really think that the French are happy with that ? Ask to the workers at Saint Nazaire if they're happy...
It's really bad,we show again that we're an us's puppet,and it's really bad for the future contract of the french industry....
Hope our shitty president will stop this,and deliver them quicly... Serisously,what a pussy !
we need someone like Marine Le Pen as president..... @vostok

(The chantage with Russians doesn't work.)
 
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:lol::lol: You are funny man.:rofl:

Well i guess India is only looking out for its interests, just like every country should do for that matter. Its normal, nothing wrong in that. Each country changes alliances/partnerships with their changing needs. So i will expect India do that if its suits its interests.
Im just saying this to your Indian brothers here who kept saying Russia is India's 'best friend'.:lol: They dont know there is no such thing in geo politics.:big_boss:
Well the Soviet Union was like a big brother to us and we are forever indebted to them for their unconditional support and help all throughout this time.Russia is the heir of the USSR's legacy and hence it is as important to us as USSR was.She will always be a special friend to us.The common people in India have got great respect for Russia as a friend and that perception is not going to change in the near future.Although i do admit that there has been some misunderstanding between us at present due to the utter stupid foreign policies taken by the previous Congress led Govt. who did everything they could to get cosy with the U.S. the present Govt. will take a more pro-Russian foreign policy to clear all kinds of misunderstanding with them.Russia was,is and always will be an all weather reliable friend of our country:coffee:.
 
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You really think that the French are happy with that ? Ask to the workers at Saint Nazaire if they're happy...
It's really bad,we show again that we're an us's puppet,and it's really bad for the future contract of the french industry....
Hope our shitty president will stop this,and deliver them quicly... Serisously,what a pussy !
we need someone like Marine Le Pen as president..... @vostok

(The chantage with Russians doesn't work.)
Marine received a loan in one of the Russian banks for her party. I hope this money will benefit France. I think the old man General De Gaulle would have approved her candidature for president.
 
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