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France's Beef With Islam

I never gave Islam a bad name (I did the opposite), I gave its adherents a bad name.
Sir you seems to to ashamed of Islam Sir according to Quran the more Muslims will follow Islam the more Non Muslims will be angry so if you think you can make Non Muslims happy you can only do it by becoming Kafir according to Quran and ALLAH knows far better than you so he already told us what will happen in Quran

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No, I am saying there is a rising wave of radicalism in Europe in the Muslim communities, & it is evident to anyone that has visited that part of the world. I did not imply that all French Muslims, or even the majority are extremists. But the few bad apples (who are unfortunately increasing in number) give the majority & Islam a bad name. Bigotry against Muslims in the West is further alienating them & driving them away, this is not good for the Muslims or the countries they live in. Lose-lose situation for everyone.
Sir How do you know these radicals are not following Islam Sir if they in fact are really following Islam than first read Quran Sunnah I have and now realized that these so called extremists Wahabis follow Quran and Sunnah more than any other Group al though I belong to a Sufi Barelvi Family but I like to do research
 
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Sir you seems to to ashamed of Islam Sir according to Quran the more Muslims will follow Islam the more Non Muslims will be angry so if you think you can make Non Muslims happy you can only do it by becoming Kafir according to Quran and ALLAH knows far better than you so he already told us what will happen in Quran

You are incorrect with your assumptions. I have read the Quran many times with Tafseer, I have read the many volumes of Sahih Muslim, Bokhari & al-Tirmidhi. I am proud of Islam, in my opinion, it is the best way of life (for this life & the Hereafter) if understood properly. Those who do not follow Islam in its right spirit give a bad name to Islam in the world today.
 
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You are incorrect with your assumptions. I have read the Quran many times with Tafseer, I have read the many volumes of Sahih Muslim, Bokhari & al-Tirmidhi. I am proud of Islam, in my opinion, it is the best way of life (for this life & the Hereafter) if understood properly. Those who do not follow Islam in its right spirit give a bad name to Islam in the world today.
Sir How do you know that they don't follow or understand it properly Sir Islam is fastest growing religion in the world and now a days most who convert are due to these so called strict extremist Wahabis and they are really working hard for the spread of Islam
 
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This was nowhere inferred in the report.

Context: I was responding to Bilal's off-topic comment about "Muslim extremism". He has swallowed the Islamophobic excuse that the actions of a few extremists justify the persecution of all Muslims.

As for the alleged geopolitical dimensions of "pan-Islamism" in Thailand, etc, I won't bother responding because they display a complete lack of historical knowledge why these conflicts exist in the first place and, more importantly, why Islamists have filled the vacuum left by lack of mainstream Islamic support to these people. When Christians in Southern Sudan or East Timor secede from an Islamic state, they receive support from the Christian powers around the world. When Muslim minorities whose land has been forcibly annexed by non-Muslims display the same desire for independence, they are written off as pan-Islamic extremists.

The fact is that there is a global assault on Islam and Muslims. Since official Muslim governments are mostly impotent and, worse, divided amongst themselves, it falls to the Islamists to take up the mantle to fight against these injustices.
 
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When in Rome do as the Romans.Don't like it pack up and leave ASAP no questions asked.No body questions Saudis when they force every non muslim woman to wear burqa.As i said if you don't like the way it is in France just get the hell out of there and go to your own paradise instead of cribbing.Same holds for SaudiArab or Iran or whatever country.
 
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When in Rome do as the Romans.Don't like it pack up and leave ASAP no questions asked.No body questions Saudis when they force every non muslim woman to wear burqa.As i said if you don't like the way it is in France just get the hell out of there and go to your own paradise instead of cribbing.Same holds for SaudiArab or Iran or whatever country.

Well said Sir.
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Sir you seems to to ashamed of Islam Sir according to Quran the more Muslims will follow Islam the more Non Muslims will be angry so if you think you can make Non Muslims happy you can only do it by becoming Kafir according to Quran and ALLAH knows far better than you so he already told us what will happen in Quran

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Sir How do you know these radicals are not following Islam Sir if they in fact are really following Islam than first read Quran Sunnah I have and now realized that these so called extremists Wahabis follow Quran and Sunnah more than any other Group al though I belong to a Sufi Barelvi Family but I like to do research

Your assumptions are wrong.
 
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Your assumptions are wrong.
No Sir I told what is clearly written in the Quran and its not assumptions these are the bitter facts which I have come to know after long research if you read Quran and Sunnah and and talk to all type of Groups you will find out that Barelwis never give proof through Quran and Sunnah of most things they do but Wahabis give proof which you can't deny only in that situation if you are not a Muslim
 
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No Sir I told what is clearly written in the Quran and its not assumptions these are the bitter facts which I have come to know after long research if you read Quran and Sunnah and and talk to all type of Groups you will find out that Barelwis never give proof through Quran and Sunnah of most things they do but Wahabis give proof which you can't deny only in that situation if you are not a Muslim

"Wahabis"? I hope you know that is an insult :lol:
 
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"Wahabis"? I hope you know that is an insult :lol:
I know that but they have prove of what they do which you can read in Quran Hadees but if you ask about some to some Barelwi it is very rare that he will quote you Quran and Hadees to prove his point right that is why most educated people who are coming to Islam in Pakistan are through these Salafis or Tableeghi Jamat
 
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Why not. Seems like you have ur definition of haram and halal mixed up. Torturing an animal to death and eating is more haram.

I agree and we don't torture any animal to death. The real torture is hitting an animal on the head, cracking its skull open, damaging its brain to the point where it is unable to show any pain for the satisfaction of the humans who are just about to hack him up with a chainsaw.
 
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I agree and we don't torture any animal to death. The real torture is hitting an animal on the head, cracking its skull open, damaging its brain to the point where it is unable to show any pain for the satisfaction of the humans who are just about to hack him up with a chainsaw.

What a perverted logic. You actually want the animals to feel pain? I don't believe it that someone can be that "dim"
 
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What a perverted logic. You actually want the animals to feel pain? I don't believe it that someone can be that "dim"
Indeed in France there is an association (animals association) that said that when a French person is buying beef, he doesn't know if the beef is prepared as for Jews and Muslims, or the way French are used to it.
The association complains about the fact that the sellers of the beef don't say to the client about this. They ask a label on any product so the client who didn't like the way the animal is killed, could decide himself .
I think this is fair .

Fact is that it was first used by fascist parti (national front) as political argue: they were liing and said that most of the meat in Paris region is halal.
There was then a little study to say there was some halal meat that was not indicated as halal, and the government used it ... because they try to get the national front votes: Sarkozy is almost sure to loose the elections and he desesperately look for anything to help to win.

A study showed that the halah meat is around 10-15% of the meat in the Paris region.

Anyway prime minister said in radio channel that this was old time methods to kill animals, owned by ancient ages.
Jews and Muslims together complained about these words.

This is very political.

But you know .. it was much worst , really worst words nowadays used by Sarkozy:
he said there are too many Foreigners in France and France needs to divide by two the number of foreigners accepted in the territory... indeed he won't do something like that but again he wants to take the part of national front votes !

Socialists are on the way for having the next presidency here... easily.
 
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What kind of ranting is this? Is it really a response to my post?
 
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