France, Saudi Arabia deepen alliance with 10B euros in deals

[Djinn]

French are not exactly reliable, but then again Saudis are never known to have made wise decisions. When the time comes, these French will be part of the democratic crusade in KSA.

 

[Manindra]

I SEE BILLIONS to France once , U.S once , Chinese once , etc and no proper military industry in Saudi or Gulf area.. except for UAE little industry in UAV or MRAP .. but if we focused on Saudi , they paid Billions for F-15 or its upgrade SA , or Tayphoons , Tornado , Apache , Blackhawk etc and the thing they got is to manufacture Democlies Pod LOL , and a bad start for manufacturing An-32 from Ukraine , REALLY WTTTTTTF

AN-32 is very rugged & reliable aircraft, nobody can just start assembling military. transport aircraft C-5 Galaxy from day one.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

From who they should buy ? Russia? China? Pakistan?

Russia would be great .

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Ksa should not buy anything from europe .

 

[mike2000 is back]

French are not exactly reliable, but then again Saudis are never known to have made wise decisions. When the time comes, these French will be part of the democratic crusade in KSA.

Well, why don't you go and be a religious adviser to the Saudi kings or better still to your own country leaders and warn them about ' evil 'western democratic crusade against your Muslim countries?

Don't know what is wrong with you people, always mixing business with other stuffs.

 

[Djinn]

Well, why don't you go and be a religious adviser to the Saudi kings or better still to your own country leaders and warn them about ' evil 'western democratic crusade against your Muslim countries?

Don't know what is wrong with you people, always mixing business with other stuffs.

I would suggest you go and be the hate adviser to the French, but they already have plenty like you. If you had an iota of knowledge about France as an arms supplier, you would have known what i meant, but your puny brain is too fixated on being islamophobic and giving our every point a religious dimension. Aren't you getting late for your bigoted protests on streets?

 

[mike2000 is back]

I would suggest you go and be the hate adviser to the French, but they already have plenty like you. If you had an iota of knowledge about France as an arms supplier, you would have known what i meant, but your puny brain is too fixated on being islamophobic and giving our every point a religious dimension. Aren't you getting late for your bigoted protests on streets?

And according to you, who is a 'reliable' supplier?
Pakistan?

 

[Gabriel92]

And according to you, who is a 'reliable' supplier?
Pakistan?

It is funny how many members here say better to buy from China or Russia,because we are islamophobic or whatsoever....
At least,we don't unleash our army destroying every muslim neighborhoods just like in Chechnya.
But there is also a double standard in this forum,when something happens against muslims in France or in west in general,it is islamophobic,some will launch fatwas against us,but if something happens against muslims in China,or even Russia,they are like "their country their rules".
Second thing is how people over here calls us unreliable supplier...... See how the Russians backstabbed the Iranians with the S300s.

 

[mike2000 is back]

It is funny how many members here say better to buy from China or Russia,because we are islamophobic or whatsoever....
At least,we don't unleash our army destroying every muslim neighborhoods just like in Chechnya.
But there is also a double standard in this forum,when something happens against muslims in France or in west in general,it is islamophobic,some will launch fatwas against us,but if something happens against muslims in China,or even Russia,they are like "their country their rules".
Second thing is how people over here calls us unreliable supplier...... See how the Russians backstabbed the Iranians with the S300s.

Well, its understandable. To be honest i understand their bias. The West is still far more dominant/powerful and virtually controls the world economic/financial/military system globally, so other weaker/smaller countries will obviously tend to look towards the west as the bad guys irrespective of what we do(or what other non western powers do). It's kind of similar to how they view Great Britain more negatively and will always look into any little detail what we do globally, while nobody really cares to look into Portugal, Italy or Spain actions overseas, since we were a far greater power.

That's what you get for being powerful, its also the reason why people will always criticize/look into anything the U.S does to the very little detail, since the U.S is the most powerful country on earth today, so its only normal. You will also notice that several people were deeply anti Soviet and used to criticize the commie soviets in Muslim world a well, since the Soviet Union was a world power and invaded Afghanistan, eastern European countries, spread its wings/missiles all the way to Cuba, had subordinates states in Asia like Vietnam, India, North Korea etc. Many people also regarded them negatively even the Chinese with whom the soviets fought a bloody border war and threatened to nuke etc. Meanwhile who cares if say Vietnam invaded Cambodia and Laos? Who cares if India annexed Goa/Sikkim? Who cares if Morocco invaded and annexed Sahara occidental? etc etc. Small/weaker powers can still get away with many things without world scrutiny, not so with big powers/countries

So as you can see GREAT POWER COMES WITH GREAT RESPONSIBILITIES and with GREAT SCRUTINY AS WELL. So we can't blame them for always crying victim hood. lol

 

[Djinn]

And according to you, who is a 'reliable' supplier?
Pakistan?

Don't try to catch at the straws when your argument has been logically nullified. French happen to have a history of back tracking on their deals and thus are untrustworthy, your blabbering is an indication of your desperation to lead the topic of the tangent.

 

[Total Destruction]

Don't try to catch at the straws when your argument has been logically nullified. French happen to have a history of back tracking on their deals and thus are untrustworthy, your blabbering is an indication of your desperation to lead the topic of the tangent.

Gotta agree with that , even in Egypt when they stabbed us in the back and joined U.K and zionists to invade Egypt in 1956.

 

[Djinn]

Reality of French
France cancels Mistral helicopter-carrier sales to Russia - World Socialist Web Site
How France helped us win Falklands war, by John Nott - Telegraph

Gotta agree with that , even in Egypt when they stabbed us in the back and joined U.K and zionists to invade Egypt in 1956.

Even the Americans think that they betrayed them during the Iraq war. Yet some of them are too high headed to realize where they stand in the real world.

 

[Total Destruction]

Seriously, all of our rulers in the Arab and Muslim world with a few exceptions are largely poor but if we are to be brutally honest our people deserve such rulers.

Until we grow a pair of balls and confront our ills and correct them nothing will change. The Arab world/MENA region/call it what you want, has the potential to once again play a leading role in the world like it did for millenniums. Arguably more than any other region throughout recorded human history.

Are you sure because I swear that those 5-10 protestors look like Yemenis.

MB movements are seriously nothing to aspire too. MB Egyptians that were welcomed to KSA by King Faisal in the 1960's and 1970's when they were expelled by Gamal Abdel Nasser did so much harm in KSA that you won't believe it. The country is still struggling with their legacy.

I don't belong to any movement or support any particular movement. All I support is social, political and economic prosperity in the Arab world and for greater cooperation between the people and nations. I think that democracy, it already exists in Tunisia, Lebanon etc. will eventually be developed locally but it will take some time and the rulers will have to help this process but so far most are not doing that or VERY slowly.

The mentality of the people also has to change but the youth is not like the old generation, at least not in the GCC. So that is positive news although the longer we see the status quo the bigger is the risk of them becoming exactly like the old generation. So the process should be speeded up. The unrest currently does not help that.

The Arab Spring or as I know call it, the Arab Winter, has given them renewed arsenal in preventing social and political progress by using the "terror" excuse. Now anyone that is not a fan of status quo is a terrorist in every Arab country.

You might agree with this video.

Anyway got to hit the bed.

Gamal abdel nasser was foolish too , he destroyed Egypt with his Bla bla ... same as Sadat , also did many foolish things.

Anyway i'm not with ARAB WORLD Prosperity , that sound racism .. i'm with Islamic Prosperity... First of all GCC needs to take Americans and Europeans bases out and depend on themselves , Iran aren't that HUGE enemy , i've no idea why GCC fears it , also GCC must work with Turkey , Malaysia etc .

Reality of French
France cancels Mistral helicopter-carrier sales to Russia - World Socialist Web Site
How France helped us win Falklands war, by John Nott - Telegraph



Even the Americans think that they betrayed them during the Iraq war. Yet some of them are too high headed to realize where they stand in the real world.

That's why i was against (Rafale , Fremm ,Gowind , Mistral) deals .. i didn't want for weapons sells from them , neither from Americans or Russians , we could transfer tech easily from china for all money paid to french.

 

[Djinn]

Anyway i'm not with ARAB WORLD Prosperity , that sound racism .. i'm with Islamic Prosperity... First of all GCC needs to take Americans and Europeans bases out and depend on themselves , Iran aren't that HUGE enemy , i've no idea why GCC fears it , also GCC must work with Turkey , Malaysia etc .



That's why i was against (Rafale , Fremm ,Gowind , Mistral) deals .. i didn't want for weapons sells from them , neither from Americans or Russians , we could transfer tech easily from china for all money paid to french.

You are right on point about Iran not being an enemy, The Arab world needs to resolve it's differences with Iran ASAP. As for defence tech--------Russia and China can help tremendously. The western countries stab you at a time when you are expecting them to help you most. Even recently Turkey chose Chinese SAM's over others. When you go for western tech they make sure you stay reliant on them and crippled. Even Arab world can jointly cooperate with Russia and China this will get them diplomatic support as well.

 

[mike2000 is back]

You are right on point about Iran not being an enemy, The Arab world needs to resolve it's differences with Iran ASAP. As for defence tech--------Russia and China can help tremendously. The western countries stab you at a time when you are expecting them to help you most. Even recently Turkey chose Chinese SAM's over others. When you go for western tech they make sure you stay reliant on them and crippled. Even Arab world can jointly cooperate with Russia and China this will get them diplomatic support as well.

lool Keep blabbering about how your Ummah brother countries need to gang up against the West and ally with Russia and China. Joke of the century. If wishes were horses, all beggars will be ridding long time ago. You think Arab countries/leaders are foolish to keep cooperating/buying high quality weapons from U.K/U.S/France etc? where else can they get such world class weapons without compromising on quality/effectiveness? The very fact that even your so called savior Russia decided to spend its hard earn billions buying Mistral from France, that should be a food for thought to you.

Moreover, as i said before, if you are willing/eager to see the West decline and other powers like Russia and China (maybe Arab/Muslim countries as well. lol) rise, then you should be contributing to the rise of your own country and these rising powers instead of staying/leaving your comfortable life in the evil 'declining west.