France rules out submarine sale to Pakistan (according to Dunya news).

[SrNair]

It would have been obvious that after India closed the Scorpene deal they would have asked that the same technology wouldn't end up with Pakistan to.




There is no French second hand option as their subs are nuclear .

I mean second hand AIP subs .French has industries.

 

[MilSpec]

What up, ostrich? You getting happy?

Not really... our esteemed member started dancing gangnam style after horus started kidding with the M88 for JF thread, so thought will point it out to him.

 

[Pomegranate]

214 would be an excellent option for Pakistan. But again, where are the funds coming from that's the biggest question.

we have got enough funds dont you worry about that , we are purchasing 8 from china and the rest from these countries .

 

[Dalit]

Not really... our esteemed member started dancing gangnam style after horus started kidding with the M88 for JF thread, so thought will point it out to him.

Ostrich is happy.

 

[farhan_9909]

Go for the modified Type 41 class with SLCM firing capability

 

[SrNair]

France supplier is not worthy and unreliable after wasting times many years with India's MMRCA

Pakistan should ignore France, they don't produce great quality, poor services, horrible reputations, and triple costs. Remember what France does to Russia about warships deal.

Grapess are too sour .
Chinese are nothing in front of European technology when it comes to the subs and jets.

 

[MilSpec]

Ostrich is happy.

This is not new, has been consistent french take for a while now.

 

[Gabriel92]

France supplier is not worthy and unreliable after wasting times many years with India's MMRCA

Pakistan should ignore France, they don't produce great quality, poor services, horrible reputations, and triple costs. Remember what France does to Russia about warships deal.

We don't produce quality ? Please,our stuff isn't Russia's.
Russia and Pakistan aren't the same countries.
Since Pakistan isn't a threat and didn't invade any European country,neither threatened one,why will we stop weapons deliveries to PK ?

 

[waz]

Germany built but never used type 214. Any used sub would be from Greece, Portugal or SK. Also their 212 is not even a decade old yet. Any sub Pakistan buys would be new i guess

214 is the export designate my friend. The original deal was for three 214 submarines, the same ones operated by the fleets mentioned in your post.

 

[Dalit]

This is not new, has been consistent french take for a while now.

True, Pakistan knew it was going to be turned down like it mostly has.

 

[waz]

We don't produce quality ? Please,our stuff isn't Russia's.
Russia and Pakistan aren't the same countries.
Since Pakistan isn't a threat and didn't invade any European country,neither threatened one,why will we stop weapons deliveries to PK ?

It's not about France my friend. French quality is great. It's just a case of opportunity cost for the French. France and Pakistan maintain good ties.

 

[SrNair]

The French never turn down cash. Even if it means selling used or refurbished subs. Cash is cash. The only reason is Indian whining. Everyone knows it. Not Pakistan's loss at all.

Nothing to worry about for Pakistan. Pakistan has good alternatives at its disposal. Chinese subs have built a very good reputation in recent years. In fact, going to the French was needless.

Whining .We dont need whining
That is your department and you are cent percent excellent in that.
What can you offer to French? In billions or millions.

 

[Rau]

There are funds, I'm not fully aware of the breakdown. Many sources state that they are in talks with the Germans. Now, some reports talk about "used" subs, I say that the 214 deal should be bought back.

Sir,I don't think Pakistan choose Germany.As in future Pakistan surly will buy Chinese sub, then maintaining three different platform of three different countries cause headache for Pak navy logistically.more ever, there is no guaranty of Germany that in future they will not sanction you.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

@waz @Horus

This means that The deal for French avionics for JF 17 is also not happening

There is no such news ! Other than the fanboy stuff.
Official source, either French or Pakistan haven't said anything regarding the deal.

 

[Dalit]

Whining .We dont need whining
That is your department and you are cent percent excellent in that.
What can you offer to French? In billions or millions.

LMAO you stupid being. Why did the French offer us Agosta's if we have nothing to offer? Pakistan has been dealing with the French before. We're not new costumers for them. Don't lecture me on whether we have something on offer or not. India is bitching as usual. Plain and simple.

It doesn't matter though. Like I said, we have good alternatives.