France public debt will explode all records at end of 2014

[flamer84]

So then why are you so hateful for the communists if industry was developed and agricultural output was high ? You have been brutally deindustrialized by corporate tentacles..... I am a bit surprised.

Because everything was exported,population stayed in huge lines for a little meat,electricity was rationalised because it was needed for the huge industrial complex,the elites enjoyed luxury while the population lived in poverty.For God's sake we had one tv channel which aired 12 hours a day,6 of them presenting how glorious communism was.

Oh,and if you will do a research you will see that romanian communists were dissidents in the soviet camp.Russia wanted Romania to play only an agrarian role within the Warsaw Pact but our leaders ignored them and industrialised the country,Romania,contrary to soviet wishes,established good relations with the USA ansd Israel,we condemned the invasion in Czehoslovakia in 1968 by the russians and other communist states,from then onwards we never participated in military drills with the others and so on.

 

[sovcomflot]

Because everything was exported,population stayed in huge lines for a little meat,electricity was rationalised because it was needed for the huge industrial complex,the elites enjoyed luxury while the population lived in poverty.For God's sake we had one tv channel which aired 12 hours a day,6 of them presenting how glorious communism was.

Still,its a lot better than the bitter and gruesome poverty in the third world.Hows life in Romania ? Is the standard of living better now? or is it falling?

I think socialism is still developing ,but in the long term it will be better for common man. Already USA and Europe are reverting to neo-feudalism and a situation where corporate rights are superior to human rights...

 

[flamer84]

Still,its a lot better than the bitter and gruesome poverty in the third world.Hows life in Romania ? Is the standard of living better now? or is it falling?

I think socialism is still developing ,but in the long term it will be better for common man. Already USA and Europe are reverting to neo-feudalism and a situation where corporate rights are superior to human rights...

Well,right now ...9000$ per capita,slowly growing ,2% growth economy this year,projected more from next year.Still,the standard of living is low for Romania compared especially with other EU members.The biggest problem is the brain drain,doctors,enginers,scientists are leaving for western Europe.The new goverment tries to improove things but we have a long way to walk.

@sovcomflot.....btw,our economy was on the right track even before communism,it's all related to the current ruling elites.Before WW2 :

"Before World War II, Romania was Europe's second-largest food producer.[18] In 1938, per-capita national income reached $94, surpassing other present-day developed European countries such as Greece ($76) or Portugal ($81). However, the Romanian economy still lagged behind its Western European counterparts.[19]"

 

[vostok]

I think socialism is still developing ,but in the long term it will be better for common man. Already USA and Europe are reverting to neo-feudalism and a situation where corporate rights are superior to human rights...

You are absolutely right! Humanity has two options after capitalism - feudalism or socialism. At the time, Stalin had predicted that the descendants at a time betray the ideas of ​​socialism, but it will take some time and they will return to socialism, but now at a new level.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

You are absolutely right! Humanity has two options after capitalism - feudalism or socialism. At the time, Stalin had predicted that the descendants at a time betray the ideas of ​​socialism, but it will take some time and they will return to socialism, but now at a new level.

Back to the good old days of Gulags, eh?

 

[sovcomflot]

Back to the good old days of Gulags, eh?

Doubt it. I see a form of religious or democratic socialism arising from the coming chaos.The neo-feudalism which is growing is going to dwarf the mass genocide that British empire performed in the sub-continent. Already ,you can what this neo-feudalism has done in Africa. But socialism can become imperialist if it becomes centralized . As long it is decentralized ,there is not much chance of imperial behaviour.

What I see is socialism with a strong religious favor or partial democratic favor coming in the future.

 

[vostok]

Back to the good old days of Gulags, eh?

Not really. Back in the good old days, when GDP growth reached 30%, and the worker could buy a car for 3-4 wages, students paid stipend for which he could eat 145 times chicly. The gas was free, prices declined by 3-5% each year. The country was great, people were confident in today and believe in a brighter future.

 

[sovcomflot]

Because everything was exported,population stayed in huge lines for a little meat,electricity was rationalised because it was needed for the huge industrial complex,the elites enjoyed luxury while the population lived in poverty.For God's sake we had one tv channel which aired 12 hours a day,6 of them presenting how glorious communism was.

Oh,and if you will do a research you will see that romanian communists were dissidents in the soviet camp.Russia wanted Romania to play only an agrarian role within the Warsaw Pact but our leaders ignored them and industrialised the country,Romania,contrary to soviet wishes,established good relations with the USA ansd Israel,we condemned the invasion in Czehoslovakia in 1968 by the russians and other communist states,from then onwards we never participated in military drills with the others and so on.

I marked it bold.This claim is very interesting,sir.Do you have sources for this?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Now give the sources.

Not really. Back in the good old days, when GDP growth reached 30%, and the worker could buy a car for 3-4 wages, students paid stipend for which he could eat 145 times chicly. The gas was free, prices declined by 3-5% each year. The country was great, people were confident in today and believe in a brighter future.

 

[INDIC]

India also has the same law. At least BD hindus can raise their concern about it but in India, no Muslim ever dare to demand the abandoned property of Muslim.

No law caused exodus of Muslims from India.

 

[vostok]

Now give the sources.

Read this, use google translate.
Вспоминая СССÐ* - Сделано у нас
I assure you, that everything written - true, my father and my grandfather confirmed it. Under Stalin after the war, the average Russian family lived better than in the same period the American family. But after Stalin's death raised a real wave of lies, slander of him - mostly it was done with the filing of Khrushchev.
Khrushchev was not only slandered Stalin, but also broke that perfect system of the economy, which has created enormous sacrifices Stalin.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Independent sources would have been preferable. But never mind. I am outta here.

 

[vostok]

Independent sources would have been preferable. But never mind. I am outta here.

What are the sources? Goebbels propaganda or his students from the CIA?

 

[sovcomflot]

Independent sources would have been preferable. But never mind. I am outta here.

What independent kinds? Western govts were against Russia and Russia against West. The only independent sources you might get are possibly chinese , so no point. Do a favor and talk to the russians who lived in soviet era.They will give you a very different information compared to media... by the way have you have seen the media fabrications on Syria ,right?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

What independent kinds? Western govts were against Russia and Russia against West. The only independent sources you might get are possibly chinese , so no point. Do a favor and talk to the russians who lived in soviet era.They will give you a very different information compared to media... by the way have you have seen the media fabrications on Syria ,right?

Yeah like I said leave it. Do whatever you wish in your country/countries. Try it here and get shot.