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France mandates masks to control the coronavirus. Burqas remain banned.

May 10, 2020 at 4:00 p.m. GMT+3
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President Emmanuel Macron wears a protective mask with a ribbon in the colors of the French flag

PARIS — France, the originator of the burqa ban, has done more than any other Western nation over the past decade to resist face coverings in public. But as the country begins to emerge from its coronavirus lockdown Monday, masks are mandatory.

People are required to wear masks in high schools and on public transportation — or risk being fined. Shopkeepers also have the right to ask customers to wear masks or to leave. Artificial-intelligence-integrated video cameras will be monitoring overall compliance on the Paris Metro.

To emphasize the national imperative, President Emmanuel Macron appeared at a school last week wearing a navy mask embellished with the blue, white and red stripes of the French flag. Face coverings, the design seemed to suggest, are fused to the ideals of liberty, equality and fraternity.

All this has been accepted with little commentary or controversy. A recent BFMTV poll found that 94 percent of people in France supported wearing masks. That France has reported more than 26,000 coronavirus deaths no doubt contributes to that acceptance.

But many Muslims, religious freedom advocates and scholars see a great deal of irony in a society that has made such a virtue of uncovered faces suddenly requiring faces to be covered.

“If you are Muslim and you hide your face for religious reasons, you are liable to a fine and a citizenship course where you will be taught what it is to be ‘a good citizen,’ ” said Fatima Khemilat, a fellow at the Political Science Institute of Aix-en-Provence. “But if you are a non-Muslim citizen in the pandemic, you are encouraged and forced as a ‘good citizen’ to adopt ‘barrier gestures’ to protect the national community.”

“We see this asymmetrical reading of the same behavior — covering the face, depending on the context and the person who performs it — as arbitrary at best, discriminatory at worst,” she said.

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French law regulates Islamic face coverings in public spaces on the grounds that concealing one’s face violates fundamental values of the republic.

In 2004, the country banned headscarves in public schools, citing the religious neutrality of state institutions. In 2010, it outlawed the fully face-covering niqab and burqa everywhere in public, arguing that those garments threaten public safety and represent a rejection of a society of equal citizens.

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“In free and democratic societies . . . no exchange between people, no social life is possible, in public space, without reciprocity of look and visibility: people meet and establish relationships with their faces uncovered,” declared a parliamentary study prepared during debate of the 2010 law, which took effect the following year.


“The concealment of the face in public space has the effect of breaking social ties,” the report continues. “It manifests the refusal of ‘living together.’ ”

France’s Interior Ministry confirmed to The Washington Post that the burqa ban will still apply during the covid-19 pandemic, when people are otherwise encouraged to cover their faces. A woman who wears a religious face covering will be “punished with the fine provided for second-class infractions,” the ministry said in a statement. The law imposes a fine of up to €150 ($165) and can require participation in a citizenship education class.

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Given that the 2010 law permits face coverings for health reasons and other exemptions, “wearing a mask intended to prevent any risk of contagion by covid-19 does not constitute a criminal offense,” the ministry said.

That suggests that if an observant Muslim woman wanted to get on the Paris Metro, she would be required to remove her burqa and replace it with a mask.

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Commuters ride the Paris Metro on May 4. (Christophe Archambault/AFP/Getty Images)
Strictly speaking, the French government’s new rules on masks do not specify what counts as an acceptable mask. Fabric masks recently became available in French pharmacies. But earlier in the virus outbreak, when the government was reserving masks for health workers, people improvised with any number of clothing items, with some French women walking the streets of Paris with their faces covered with scarves.

Although the burqa has a clear religious significance, it also covers the nose and mouth and could be expected to slow the virus just as well as many homemade masks.

“Muslims see this irony very clearly,” said Karima Mondon, a high school teacher in the Lyon suburbs, who wears a headscarf but not a burqa. “Also, all the things they used to tell us were signs of ‘radicalization’ — such as people who don’t do the kiss — today have become signs of good public health practices.”

Following the October 2019 attack on the Paris police headquarters by an Islamist employee, French Interior Minister Christophe Castaner delivered a controversial list of potential signs of radicalization to the French Parliament. Not doing “la bise,” the kiss on the cheek that many French and Europeans use to greet each other, was on his list.


Mondon noted that some Muslim women donned surgical masks as a kind of protest after the 2010 law was passed.

“I remember there were women who wore surgical masks back then to continue practicing what was important to them,” she said. “That didn’t even work, because clearly what was intended was a regulation of Islam, to eradicate the visibility of Muslim women in public space.”

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French pharmacies, such as this one in Paris, have begun to sell fabric masks. (Stephane de Sakutin/AFP/Getty Images)
That one type of face covering is seen as withdrawing from society and another has become a sign of civic duty reflects the contradictory ways France defines community and solidarity, political analysts and historians say.

“It’s not a hypocrisy, it’s a schizophrenia at the end,” said Olivier Roy, a French scholar of secularism and Islam. “Which is to say that it’s about the problem of Islam. If you cover your face for Islam, it’s not the republic. If you cover your face for a reason not to do with Islam, it’s acceptable.”

Public safety is the only other realm where the French government has objected to face coverings. For instance, during the “yellow vest” protests over inequality, some demonstrators wore bandannas, surgical masks or costume masks to protect themselves from tear gas or conceal their identities. After several weeks of violent protests, Parliament passed a law stipulating that wearing a mask at such gatherings could result in a one-year prison sentence and a 15,000 euro ($16,500) fine — far steeper than the burqa ban.

But requiring face coverings in public is new for France.

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A sign at a Paris train station provides health and social distancing information. (Benoit Tessier/Reuters)
“The secular science versus religious Muslim dichotomy is operating so that nobody sees it as ironic or as a contradiction at all,” said Joan Wallach Scott, an American historian of France who has written extensively on the politics of the headscarf. “For those of us looking at it from the outside, the issue it raises is what it means to be part of a community.”

“Wearing some form of head covering means identifying with the rules and spirit of a community, and that’s clearly what masks do for a secular community like the French republic. We are now engaging in a rite of communal participation — for ‘vivre ensemble,’ to be with each other,” she said.

“But that’s also what the veil represents for the women who wear it: a commitment to the principles of communal solidarity.”

Khemilat, the political scientist, said that perhaps the requirement to wear a mask will give the rest of French society a glimpse of how it can feel to be a Muslim woman in a country that polices what can be worn and where.

“If this temporary situation was painful and difficult for us to live in because it hampered our freedom to come and go,” she said, “then imagine what the French women who wear the headscarf have been feeling for 10 years.”


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Lol... There is no way in a million years will they be able to tell the difference between the Niqab or medical mask. All the Niqabis need to do is wear a face mask! Lol.

Hijab and Jilbab whatsoever are not banned. Veils that cover the entire face such as Niqab and Burqa are. However some here who have no clues of laws in France want to make you think every islamic veil is banned when it isn't the case. However if some aren't happy I am sure there are plenty of countries where such veils are allowed.

Niqabis just need to wear a face mask and they're good to go ...lol
 
The irony of the outraged crowd on this thread is the same people parrot the line of our, "Our country, our rules", when someone mentions the plight of minorities in their own countries. :-)
Ask the Ahmedi's facing legal discrimination, ask the Shia being wasted like animals .....

Algeria has not been forced. They are supporting the Algerian government much like Chinese support Pakistan for strategic reasons or Pakistan supports Afghan Taliban. They call it geo-politics ...
 
which mask is airtight, genius? :lol:
Umm airtight??
Google about diffrnt masks.ull know.
Btw nowadays u rarely post,,i guess family life has taken its toll on u alongwith near total annihilation of ur MeTime.
All the responsibilities and expectations.Hope u r not making a mess of it.
Gud to see old posters anyway.

And lastly,infrnt of u Chodhry i always feel like a genius :D
 
France bans Burqa. Now even the French President wears burqa. The irony :lol:
Mask is no Burka and no one will stop you wearing a mask with a long jacket.

Of course they will never move to any pure islamic nations because life is so much better in the evil western countries they despise so much... :enjoy:

Neither the wife or daughter of messenger Mohammad wore burqa, they wore traditional long Arabic gowns.
Quran, which is nothing but a guide for humanity, talk about to cover sexual parts.
All what France need is to educate Muslims on Islam rather alienating them.
 
Neither the wife or daughter of messenger Mohammad wore burqa, they wore traditional long Arabic gowns.
Quran, which is nothing but a guide for humanity, talk about to cover sexual parts.
All what France need is to educate Muslims on Islam rather alienating them.
They never cover their faces?
 
Of course they will never move to any pure islamic nations because life is so much better in the evil western countries they despise so much... :enjoy:
You do realise that most of the French or any western wealth you are so proud about originated and is being earned from "pure Islamic" countries.
French looted north Africa and still doing so. All Algerian gas being controlled by the French to this date.
I been to Algeria multiple times and seen gas ranker after gas tanker leaving the ports.
But the country is poor. I asked people why it is so. They said all gas money goes to France.
Plus trade revenue from "Pure Islamic" countries.
Some little money sent by these immigrants is the only source of some balance in trade and to earn back some of the money these "Pure Islamic" countries lose to your country in the form of buying from you and allowing your country's corporate giants enter their country and occupy local business.
 
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Ask the Ahmedi's facing legal discrimination, ask the Shia being wasted like animals .....

Algeria has not been forced. They are supporting the Algerian government much like Chinese support Pakistan for strategic reasons or Pakistan supports Afghan Taliban. They call it geo-politics ...
I am talking when the french ruled Algeria.. and the brutal french regime and since then the leverage it holds over Algeria. China doesnt and had not and will not rule Pakistan
 
Burqa is not air tight. It does not protect against airborne disease.
Covid is not and never has been "airborne". It doesn't fly or float. It can be aerosolised and carried in droplets. The burqa offers the same protection as a surgical mask in theory. I don't know if it's been formally tested. The masks which hug the face and are sealed against skin are special masks worn in hospitals by certain medics, not the ones for the general public and not even standard surgical masks.

Give me one example where France has forced to change the law in Pakistan? Or UK for that matter?

And my issue with Burkha is not the dress itself. It does not have sentient existence. However it is manifestation of female oppression. And it has nothing to do with Islam. But merely a primitive tool to enforce primitive concepts.
Doesn't matter. If a female wishes to wear a bin liner over her body and head, who cares? It doesn't cause the collapse of civilization as some would have you believe. They should wear whatever they want. Why do people demand that women wear less or faire la bise or do certain things to be accepted as normal?

I gave up on France a while back to be honest.
 

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