Four of the most ancient human civilisations

[Chinese-Dragon]

Modern India considers itself the heir of the civilizational entity called bharatvarsha with its long history.

How can you consider yourself the heir of a civilization that existed in another country? Don't you think you should ask Pakistan for their permission before you steal their history?

 

[war&peace]

How can you consider yourself the heir of a civilization that existed in another country? Don't you think you should ask Pakistan for their permission before you steal their history?

I think if they call it Bharatvarsha and that comprises of the sites that are located in their country's geographical boundaries, we have no problem. But their problem is that no one considers Bharatvarsha as ancient civilisation. It is a new name for me and there are not many references to it in international peer reviewed journals.

 

[Dash]

How can you consider yourself the heir of a civilization that existed in another country? Don't you think you should ask Pakistan for their permission before you steal their history?

Don't worry you can dig a whole at your home tomorrow and claim it to 35000 years old. Post it in Baidu we all believe it. Just like how you support some puppies. It's all evident.

How can you consider yourself the heir of a civilization that existed in another country? Don't you think you should ask Pakistan for their permission before you steal their history?

Youngs are interested.

Dragon is gone rest in peace

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Don't worry you can dig a whole at your home tomorrow and claim it to 35000 years old. Post it in Baidu we all believe it. Just like how you support some puppies. It's all evident.



Youngs are interested.

Dragon is gone rest in peace

I don't understand your post?

Do you think China should claim to be the inheritor of Russian civilization because we happen to be neighbors, and have some sites and artifacts of Russian civilization within our borders?

Or maybe those sites and artifacts are there because we have a land border with Russia?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I think if they call it Bharatvarsha and that comprises of the sites that are located in their country's geographical boundaries, we have no problem. But their problem is that no one considers Bharatvarsha as ancient civilisation. It is a new name for me and there are not many references to it in international peer reviewed journals.

They have just spun this name and then accorded it space that they think they own. This is as crazy as we claim the term "Asia" and then say we [Pakistan] is is inheritor of Asia. Then use the term "Asia" to go and plunder Chinese heritage, Indonesian heritage, Japanese heritage, Turkish heritage, Iranian heritage etc on the premise that all these fall within the continent of Asia. How pathetic would it be.

I think I have shown via Google Earth satellite imagery that Indus River is central to Pakistan but entirely distant to 96% of India. Yet these people still want to claim the heritage of our land. It simply is unbelievable.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

@Chinese-Dragon Two of the largest Indus civilization sites are Mohenjo Daro and Harappa. The latter is even sometimes hyphenated as "Harappan civilization". Both are on the Indus basin in Pakistan. Mohenjo Daro in fact is just one mile from the west bank of the Indus River - lending the "I" to IVC. Below is satellite image of Mohenjo Daro. You can see the Indus River in the background. There is a airstrip adjacent to the site.

Location of Mohenjo Daro, Harappa, Mehr Garh in Pakistan.

 

[MultaniGuy]

@Chinese-Dragon Two of the largest Indus civilization sites are Mohenjo Daro and Harappa. The latter is even sometimes hyphenated as "Harappan civilization". Both are on the Indus basin in Pakistan. Mohenjo Daro in fact is just one mile from the west bank of the Indus River - lending the "I" to IVC. Below is satellite image of Mohenjo Daro. You can see the Indus River in the background. There is a airstrip adjacent to the site.

Location of Mohenjo Daro, Harappa, Mehr Garh in Pakistan.

Excellent post.
India has nothing to do with Indus River Valley civilization.

Pakistan has everything to do with Indus River Valley Civilization.

 

[saiyan0321]

It simply is unbelievable.

Cmon its very believable. When you throw away gold, the closest man standing will know of its value and take it.

We threw it away.

I don't understand what is the mindset here. Why can't we be an Islamic state, muslims and still be inheritors of the Indus valley. Neither Iranians, turks, Egyptians, heck even Arabs have not thrown away their past and embraced only Islam. All study and accept their history and take pride from it whereas we stand lost having thrown away pure gold.

What is this infatuation? What is this complex?

We have characters in this country that claim Arab descent to avoid being converts ( which I have no idea what is so bad about. Apart from the prophet, everybody is a convert. Infact I admire those that convert. Its very easy being born into a religion but very hard converting to one bcz conversion requires study, it requires questions of faith and religious knowledge).

It is time, we end the rubbish and grab back the gold we threw away.

Dammit we didn't just throw away one. We let Afghanistan have Afghan history when many many historical afghan lands, incidents and majority of roh is in Pakistan.

Its time we get back our history.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

How can you consider yourself the heir of a civilization that existed in another country? Don't you think you should ask Pakistan for their permission before you steal their history?

Does 46 out of 64 sites in India ,sound like stealing?

No I don't hate Ganga but I just say that IVC is in Pakistan and surely its influence spread in all directions so some of indian civilisations also benefited from it but those are not among first four human civilisation. As far as plough fields are concerned, those do not constitute a whole civilisation. For example MehrGarh is Pakistan is much much older than anything in India. Furthermore, Indians must stop their futile endeavours to steal Pakistan's cultural heritage because the world already knows and things have been documented so you guys will always remain unsuccessful and thus frustrated.

We have no interest in 'stealing' pakistan's heritage at all.Its a fact on the ground that 46 out 64 significant IVC sites are on Indian soil with some of the most technologicallly advanced discoveries.Do you deny the existence of sites like ropar,lothal,dholavira,rakhigarhi,kalibangan,baniwal and many more?If you don't then how dare you accuse us of stealing something that is already part of us.You can claim IVC as part of your heritage no problem,but you can't claim it as 'solely or exclusively yours.Bulk of IVC sites are in India.Shared heritage is more accurate.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Does 46 out of 64 sites in India ,sound like stealing?



We have no interest in 'stealing' pakistan's heritage at all.Its a fact on the ground that 46 out 64 significant IVC sites are on Indian soil with some of the most technologicallly advanced discoveries.Do you deny the existence of sites like ropar,lothal,dholavira,rakhigarhi,kalibangan,baniwal and many more?If you don't then how dare you accuse us of stealing something that is already part of us.You can claim IVC as part of your heritage no problem,but you can't claim it as 'solely or exclusively yours.Bulk of IVC sites are in India.Shared heritage is more accurate.

what a crock of bullshit.

Indus River Valley Civilization happened mostly in Pakistan. With only a little bit extending into Republic of India.

Pakistan can claim the glories of the Indus River Civilization. India can only claim Ganges civilization. lol.

 

[war&peace]

Its a fact on the ground that 46 out 64 significant IVC sites are on Indian soil

Then what is bharatvarsha? I doubt those are not IVC sites since those are located very far from Indus Valley / Basin.

Do you deny the existence of sites like ropar,lothal,dholavira,rakhigarhi,kalibangan,baniwal and many more?

I don't deny their existence but I contend their candidature as IVC sites.

If you don't then how dare you accuse us of stealing something that is already part of us.You can claim IVC as part of your heritage no problem,but you can't claim it as 'solely or exclusively yours.Bulk of IVC sites are in India.Shared heritage is more accurate.

So you're saying that no other civilisation thrived in India and its the IVC only. Wow that's a deep penetration of the IVC and I don't know if it was possible. But you guys should be asking a question Why Ganges, which is the holiest river for the Hindus and who claim hinduism to be thousands of years old religion, never supported any civilisation, so infertile and barren?

 

[Dash]

I don't understand your post?

Do you think China should claim to be the inheritor of Russian civilization because we happen to be neighbors, and have some sites and artifacts of Russian civilization within our borders?

Or maybe those sites and artifacts are there because we have a land border with Russia?

China is middle Kingdom. They must claim everything else it will be a profound injustice to humanity coz China couldn't play it's part.

And you are talking about Russia. They are your slaves man!!!

 

[jamahir]

@Kaptaan @AUSTERLITZ , should we not be looking at how South Asians can be working together in the immediate future?? For example, Kashmir or a common manned space program?? What is the point of dwelling entirely in the glories of the past??

 

[Dash]

@Chinese-Dragon Two of the largest Indus civilization sites are Mohenjo Daro and Harappa. The latter is even sometimes hyphenated as "Harappan civilization". Both are on the Indus basin in Pakistan. Mohenjo Daro in fact is just one mile from the west bank of the Indus River - lending the "I" to IVC. Below is satellite image of Mohenjo Daro. You can see the Indus River in the background. There is a airstrip adjacent to the site.

Location of Mohenjo Daro, Harappa, Mehr Garh in Pakistan.

Lol is my reaction and so it happens to be everybody`s

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@Kaptaan @AUSTERLITZ , should we not be looking at how South Asians can be working together in the immediate future?? For example, Kashmir or a common manned space program?? What is the point of dwelling entirely in the glories of the past??

You must have some identity crisis. You must have gone with Jinnah and died of cancer later

 

[jamahir]

You must have some identity crisis. You must have gone with Jinnah and died of cancer later

Why should I have some identity crisis?? I clearly know that I am a brown desi. And I didn't understand your Jinnah point.