Four 'ASWJ workers' gunned down in Karachi

[B@KH]

Terrorists killed by other terrorists.

Pakistanis are well on their way of burning their country to ground with this nonsense of playing into foreign hands.

As this thread points out like the Tafsheen Malik case we have people whose minds have been poisoned after living in a particular country by a dangerous ideology that threatens the very existence of this country.

The only solution is either to radically shift the direction of the country like Ataturk did or if we insist on keeping religion involved in the affairs of the state, than the Pakistani state must actively promote the local sufi version of Islam. All funding towards Salafi/wahabi/deobandi and their post-revolution Iranian equivalents must be stopped with a goal of eventually phasing these sects out.

It is not the Shias fault.

all terrorists are created by the wahabi establishment due to shia fobia.

this wahabi establishment is too Fragile to defeat shias.

hi,
This is actually ASWJ point of view. Remove root causes, but problem is that Tabrai Shias are not agreed to leave roots which is major source of violence. How you convince a shia to do not insult Azwaj-e-Mutahareen R.A and Sahaba R.A. Any person who are involve in Tabbara on Hazrat Abu Bakr R.A, Hazrat Umer R.A and Azwaj-e-Mutahareen is not Muslim (out of islam). Sunni Scholar have consciences on that.

Shias are not at fault.

aswj is operated by the wahabi establishment itself in collaboration with gulfies.

since general pasha became the head of operation of the gulfies, he started kicking out shias.

State has to terminate aswj otherwise......... it will be terminated in due course.

Stop creating gangs against Shias and stop collaborating with gulfies.

Lol. many time shameless wahabi establishment tried to convince shias to sit and make deal with aswj bastards who have no roots at all excep run by petro dollars.

Shia enemy is too fragile to dictate. Things will go in the right direction in years to come.

 

[Atif0307]

It is not the Shias fault.

aswj is operated by the wahabi establishment itself in collaboration with gulfies.

since general pasha became the head of operation of the gulfies, he started kicking out shias.

State has to terminate aswj otherwise......... it will be terminated in due course.

Stop creating gangs against Shias and stop collaborating with gulfies.

Lol. many time shameless wahabi establishment tried to convince shias to sit and make deal with aswj bastards who have no roots at all excep run by petro dollars.

Shia enemy is too fragile to dictate. Things will go in the right direction in years to come.

what about root cause that i discused ?

 

[B@KH]

what about root cause that i discused ?

Look it is not the Issue of Ashab or Azwaj. This is all modern games by satanic ksa/usa/Israel.
daesh and taliban makers are not killing them for ashab or azwaj.

why today this drama and hue and cry against shias that they have hatred and grudge against sahaba and azwaj ?
who is doing this all propaganda now ? It is satanic politics against the Shias. It is all ksa/usa/Israel behind this drama against shias after the victory of the Islamic Revolution.

there are about one hundred twenty four thousand Sahaba R.A and shias respect them. 3 of the shia imams are Ashab and sunnis too agree to this. these 3 shia imams who are ashab fought many battles against the corrupt.

the Satanic Mullah game : Just respect few invaders, warmongers and plunders, and we will not blame you.

Satanic Mullah is like those who say, Alexander the Great. But infact he was an invader and plunderer who invaded many countries and areas. such a brave man. many praise unbeatable mongols for their expansions.

so It is not the issue of ashab or azwaj. This is just part of a modern political game initiated by ksa/usa/Israel to challenge shias.

this all hue and cry started against Shias after the Islamic Revolution and new generation got infested and trapped as it was not aware of the history and real problems.

It is a fact that majority of the pious sunni mullah are with shias instead of wahabis.

This aswj is not a mulla but a gang operated by the wahabi establishment + usa puppet and uk planted gulfies that jumped in to save it.

Does Christians believe in Prophethood ? ofcourse yes.
No one reject the Christians claim that they do not believe in prophethood while they reject Last Prophet pbuh.

when there are 124 thousand Ashab and Shia respect them and every majlis include praise for pious ashab then how can one can deny that Shia respect ashab ?

This satanic game that Shia donot respect Ashab and Azwaj is just to deceive the new generation and make people fool to sow discord and destroy peace.

Do not believe in these wahabi lies that shia are against ashab and azwaj. This propaganda will be fail and dead with the defeat of ksa/usa/israel.

 

[RoadRunner401]

Four men associated with the proscribed Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ) were gunned down in Karachi on Friday, officials said.

Three men were shot in the Shafiq Mor area of North Karachi, Central SSP Muqadas Haider said.

The senior officer added that all three men appeared to be 'religious scholars'.

Separately, two men were shot and wounded critically near Fatima Bai Hospital in Patel Para area of Jamshed Quarters police.

“They were transported to Civil Hospital Karachi where doctors pronounced Mohammed Amin, 30, as dead on arrival,” said Senior Medico-Legal officer Dr. Qarar Ahmed.

“Both men sustained bullet wounds on the head and the injured man in his 40s is in serious condition” Qarar added.

An ASWJ spokesman claimed all four victims were associated with the banned group.

He added that the men were returning after attending a rally at Nagan Chowrangi. He identified one of the deceased as Maulana Usman Haidery.

Sindh Chief minister Murad Ali Shah took serious notice of firing incidents in the city and made telephone contact with the Karachi police chief and the additional inspector general of the CTD and directed immediate action be taken.

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I have no problem with this. ASWJ is an organization directly linked to LeJ. This news should come more often. The shia brothers who conducted the attack should be given jobs in the police. Sad to note that PTI rally was stopped in Islamabad and ASWJ rally allowed to go on. Proves that the government itself has the blood of our innocent shia brothers on their hands.

First and it's very important, murderer be it Shia, Sunni or aliens from Mars should be punished not rewarded. Second, this clearly looks like some one trying to stir pot in Karachi

 

[mdcp]

It is not the Shias fault.

all terrorists are created by the wahabi establishment due to shia fobia.

this wahabi establishment is too Fragile to defeat shias.




Shias are not at fault.

aswj is operated by the wahabi establishment itself in collaboration with gulfies.

since general pasha became the head of operation of the gulfies, he started kicking out shias.

State has to terminate aswj otherwise......... it will be terminated in due course.

Stop creating gangs against Shias and stop collaborating with gulfies.

Lol. many time shameless wahabi establishment tried to convince shias to sit and make deal with aswj bastards who have no roots at all excep run by petro dollars.

Shia enemy is too fragile to dictate. Things will go in the right direction in years to come.

Terrorism started with Khumaeni agenda and policies. Before khumini there was no shia Sunni problem in Pakistan. The solution is simple that Iran must stop terrorism in Pakistan and shias should remain within constitution of Pakistan and not Iran. If they dont agree than all shias should get same treatment what sunnis getting in Iran

 

[B@KH]

Terrorism started with Khumaeni agenda and policies. Before khumini there was no shia Sunni problem in Pakistan. The solution is simple that Iran must stop terrorism in Pakistan and shias should remain within constitution of Pakistan and not Iran. If they dont agree than all shias should get same treatment what sunnis getting in Iran

Things will take its natural course. it will not be shia sunni.

 

[haviZsultan]

I understand the want for action against Sipah E Muhammad which probably conducted this attack if not lone wolf shias frustrated with this situation. But a simple look into the casualties on both sides will tell us that shias have only regularly targeted ASWJ/SSP/LeJ terrorists. On the other hand LeJ has engaged in bombings and indiscriminate killings including the last attack on the police academy outside Quetta. I know our biases always come in but think which is the bigger threat. I stand by what I said and being a sunni sympathizing with shias I feel my position is more secure and less precarious than the ones who say these two groups are equal threats.

I still say Sipah E Muhammad cadres should be given jobs in police to discourage them from taking the law in their own hands. And the institutions must act strongly against those with the blood of shias. You might argue that groups like the Taliban are targeting shias and sunnis. But if you look at the attacks on imambargahs and other shi'ite gatherings you will realize that shias still remain one of the top victims, particularly because they have been vocal against Taliban.

ASWJ is a militant organization. What other fate should militants have? Aren't we going after the Taliban. Didn't we introduce NAP. ASWJ should be targeted under NAP. Lets not let our sunni chauvinism and biases come in the way of doing justice. The reaction appears to be different when it happens to minorities than to us.

 

[Kaniska]

Buddy you need to understand .......... Who is a true Muslim ................ it will help you understand what I said.

Aur yeh culture ka ichar yahan mat baicho .............. Muslims in Pakistan didn't all of a sudden fall from the sky, and if this culture means worshiping some stone or a monkey ......... well we are pretty much advanced and beyond that now.

Exactly, i do not expect an logical discussion with people like you who even does not understand the difference between religion and culture.Good luck with your assessment. And yes, i am a great fan of learning different culture but least interested in understanding any religion other than mine.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir I respect your opinion and totally agree with what you said and its an ultimate truth that Allah will judge everyone in the Youm al Qayama. But when people like @haviZsultan who I respect and admire come up with the opinion of recruiting those terrorists in police then how could we expect something peaceful and sensible coming from common Shias who follow Iranian version of Shiaism? They always show themselves as miskeens just like jews and justify similar attacks on Sunnis.

I am all for sectarian war but they need to come out like men and declare it openly rather than hiding behind masks and stop showing themselves as peacemakers which they are not. I am sure you know what I am talking about. After the war in Syria their hypocrisy is exposed. They can see and support the killings of Sunnis in hundreds of thousands but If a terror invoking Shia mulla gets beheaded in Saudi they go baboons.

Their actions remind me of these Aayats from Surah Baqara

﴾وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ لَا تُفْسِدُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ قَالُوا إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ مُصْلِحُونَ﴿١١﴾ أَلَا إِنَّهُمْ هُمُ الْمُفْسِدُونَ وَلَـٰكِن لَّا يَشْعُرُونَ ﴿١٢﴾ وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ آمِنُوا كَمَا آمَنَ النَّاسُ قَالُوا أَنُؤْمِنُ كَمَا آمَنَ السُّفَهَاءُ ۗ أَلَا إِنَّهُمْ هُمُ السُّفَهَاءُ وَلَـٰكِن لَّا يَعْلَمُونَ ﴿١٣﴾

my friend today
we are the most hated people on the planet. billion of people hate us and curse our book and our sacred personalities. it is nothing new.. it started the day Mohammad PBUH & His Followers the Sahabah r.a openly started spreading the word of Islam.
we are hateful within Islam as well. some of us curse/ mock the Sahabah r.a and some Curse or mock the family of the Prophet PBUH so in effect both are huring the Prophet Muhammad PBUH both are blasphemous and both deserve condemnation. and then there are some who have picked up arms in the name of protecting honour of their chosen personalities and justify slitting throats and even hacking out unborn children from pregnant women .in APS in Peshawar or the recent Quetta Academy attack.. none of the victims were cursing anyone but they deserved to die in the eyes of our Muslim brothers who pray like us and may share similar love and hate relationships with people of wrong sects. if you look beyond ... people have picked up the habit of mocking Islam.. how many will you kill? they run in millions if not billions who draw Muhammad PBUH.

our every act and response and rant makes us more miserable and more laughable. I dont know if any shia or sunni leader can stand tall in front of Muhammad PBUH and say look Messenger of Allah what we have done to the place.

I understand the want for action against Sipah E Muhammad which probably conducted this attack if not lone wolf shias frustrated with this situation. But a simple look into the casualties on both sides will tell us that shias have only regularly targeted ASWJ/SSP/LeJ terrorists. On the other hand LeJ has engaged in bombings and indiscriminate killings including the last attack on the police academy outside Quetta. I know our biases always come in but think which is the bigger threat. I stand by what I said and being a sunni sympathizing with shias I feel my position is more secure and less precarious than the ones who say these two groups are equal threats.

I still say Sipah E Muhammad cadres should be given jobs in police to discourage them from taking the law in their own hands. And the institutions must act strongly against those with the blood of shias. You might argue that groups like the Taliban are targeting shias and sunnis. But if you look at the attacks on imambargahs and other shi'ite gatherings you will realize that shias still remain one of the top victims, particularly because they have been vocal against Taliban.

ASWJ is a militant organization. What other fate should militants have? Aren't we going after the Taliban. Didn't we introduce NAP. ASWJ should be targeted under NAP. Lets not let our sunni chauvinism and biases come in the way of doing justice. The reaction appears to be different when it happens to minorities than to us.

I thought Gen Hamid and his team pretty much eradicated Sipah Mohammad from the face of the earth. I mean from people I know in ISI and army.. we essentially hunted down every last person of them even killed their family members.. their teachers the shoppers that sold them stuff and their neighbours their barbers and if there are anyones alive then maybe in exile or languishing in our jails for life.

I mean it was a thorough job and had be even did half of that against RAW agents then it would have been great.