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Formula for new NSG members leaves Pakistan out: US group

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WASHINGTON: A draft proposal for accepting new members into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) paves the way for India’s entry but leaves Pakistan out, says a US-based arms control organisation.

The Arms Control Association (ACA), Washington, also warns that relaxing membership rules will undermine non-proliferation.

Last week, the US media reported that Rafael Mariano Grossi, a former chairman of the NSG, had prepared a two-page document, explaining how a non-NPT state, like India and Pakistan, could join the group. Mr Grossi was acting on behalf of the current chairman, Song Young-wan of South Korea, and his document enjoys a semi-official status.

To prevent India from blocking Pakistan from joining the NPT, Mr Grossi’s draft note proposes that “one non-NPT member state should reach an understanding not to block consensus on membership for another non-NPT member state”.

But ACA’s executive director, Daryl Kimball, warns that “Pakistan still has grounds to object to the formula outlined by Mr Grossi”. He explains that the document will require Pakistan to meet the same criteria for membership as India “but, to engage in civil nuclear trade with NSG states, it would have to win a separate NSG exemption from the full-scope safeguards requirement”.

The 48-nation NSG is a nuclear technology control organisation formed in 1975 in response to India’s first nuclear weapon test, which used plutonium produced with nuclear technology from Canada and the United States. The NSG seeks to prevent similar future misuses.

Current NSG membership rules require a state to sign the nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) before joining this exclusive club. India remains one of only three countries, with Israel and Pakistan, never to have signed the NPT.

Earlier this year, India formally applied for membership and was followed by Pakistan. The United States, and a host of other powerful western nations, back India’s application, but China and half a dozen other nations are blocking India’s membership, which requires a consensus of all members.

India had hoped to join the group during NSG’s last plenary session, held in Seoul in June this year, but the meeting ended without taking any decision on New Delhi’s application.

Several countries expressed concerns over India’s entry because it had not yet signed the NPT. China led the efforts to block India’s membership.

After the plenary, the new chairman asked Mr Grossi to work out a proposal for admitting new members. The proposal he prepared also addressed the India-Pakistan dispute, acknowledging that both countries had “political reasons” for blocking each other’s membership.

But Mr Kimball points out that Grossi’s formula allows India to claim that it has already undertaken the steps necessary for membership, “which could then lead to a decision on membership for India, while still leaving Pakistan in a different status”.

The proposal requires a non-NPT state to declare that it has brought into force a clear and strict separation of current and future civilian nuclear facilities from non-civilian nuclear facilities and is willing to apply this principle to future facilities as well.

The new member also needs to assure NSG that it has provided and maintains a declaration to the IAEA that identifies all current and future civilian nuclear facilities.

The applicant also needs to assure NSG that it has enforced a safeguards agreement with the IAEA covering all declared civilian facilities and all future civilian facilities which the IAEA determines are eligible for safeguards.

Published in Dawn, December 28th, 2016
 
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Sour grapes for the Obama administration. Trying every ploy in the book to get India into the fold. Won't happen. We already know the stance of NSG members and it is very divided for good reasons. The US cannot do a unilateral on this one. A pipe dream is all it will remain,
 
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I believe if US keeps the relentless push, India will eventually get the nod to entre the NSG. China's opposition isn't indefinite and will eventually agree to the new proposal. However, this should not distract Pakistan from focusing on building her soft power through economic development and foremost the vision to become the energy and trade hub for Europe, Russia,Japan, China and Central Asia. This will automatically yield the diplomatic goodwill since Africa,ME,East Asia and Australia depend heavily on Chinese economy for trade and CPEC will help foster our relationships with them.
The one possible scenario can be Trump escalating China-US cold war to unprecedented levels which could lend Chinese legitimate reasons to keep a lid on Indian dreams of NSG but this would come at the cost of Pakistan's membership since US would play tit-for-tat in that case.
 
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^^ I don't think Trump will get to Obama's low as far as Indian appeasement is concerned. Sure, Trump is going to have a good relation with India, but he will factor in everything. This is another last desperate Obama attempt to get his India NSG wish pushed through.
 
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This move is not aimed at making a way for India but it is to push Pakistan into submission. They are try to persuade Pakistan to let go of it's stance. It is more like a diplomatic blackmail you can say. Pakistan is still an uncharted territory for Nuclear bombs the don't control these bombs and neither they have a future assessment of Nuclear situation in Pakistan. After the events in Syria and Iraq Nuclear bombs have become a necessity of Defense against foreign intervention and occupation. Many nations around the world require these weapons for defense now and the market is becoming more and more demanding. So the profit of Nuclear trade are becoming more lucrative in Black Markets than NSG. They fear Pakistan taking the other path and this is a desperate move to push Pakistan to join on their terms.
 
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^^ I don't think Trump will get to Obama's low as far as Indian appeasement is concerned. Sure, Trump is going to have a good relation with India, but he will factor in everything. This is another last desperate Obama attempt to get his India NSG wish pushed through.
Decision to get India into NSG was taken by bush gov, obama was just following the same policy.
 
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Even if India get NSG, Pakistan and Israel still getting indirect cooperation from many countries of the world. Now India has sign the strategic logistic partnership with US/NATO. So, allies member should get Indian NSG membership.
 
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Formula for new NSG members leaves Pakistan out: US group

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WASHINGTON: A draft proposal for accepting new members into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) paves the way for India’s entry but leaves Pakistan out, says a US-based arms control organisation.

The Arms Control Association (ACA), Washington, also warns that relaxing membership rules will undermine non-proliferation.

Last week, the US media reported that Rafael Mariano Grossi, a former chairman of the NSG, had prepared a two-page document, explaining how a non-NPT state, like India and Pakistan, could join the group. Mr Grossi was acting on behalf of the current chairman, Song Young-wan of South Korea, and his document enjoys a semi-official status.

To prevent India from blocking Pakistan from joining the NPT, Mr Grossi’s draft note proposes that “one non-NPT member state should reach an understanding not to block consensus on membership for another non-NPT member state”.

But ACA’s executive director, Daryl Kimball, warns that “Pakistan still has grounds to object to the formula outlined by Mr Grossi”. He explains that the document will require Pakistan to meet the same criteria for membership as India “but, to engage in civil nuclear trade with NSG states, it would have to win a separate NSG exemption from the full-scope safeguards requirement”.

The 48-nation NSG is a nuclear technology control organisation formed in 1975 in response to India’s first nuclear weapon test, which used plutonium produced with nuclear technology from Canada and the United States. The NSG seeks to prevent similar future misuses.

Current NSG membership rules require a state to sign the nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) before joining this exclusive club. India remains one of only three countries, with Israel and Pakistan, never to have signed the NPT.

Earlier this year, India formally applied for membership and was followed by Pakistan. The United States, and a host of other powerful western nations, back India’s application, but China and half a dozen other nations are blocking India’s membership, which requires a consensus of all members.

India had hoped to join the group during NSG’s last plenary session, held in Seoul in June this year, but the meeting ended without taking any decision on New Delhi’s application.

Several countries expressed concerns over India’s entry because it had not yet signed the NPT. China led the efforts to block India’s membership.

After the plenary, the new chairman asked Mr Grossi to work out a proposal for admitting new members. The proposal he prepared also addressed the India-Pakistan dispute, acknowledging that both countries had “political reasons” for blocking each other’s membership.

But Mr Kimball points out that Grossi’s formula allows India to claim that it has already undertaken the steps necessary for membership, “which could then lead to a decision on membership for India, while still leaving Pakistan in a different status”.

The proposal requires a non-NPT state to declare that it has brought into force a clear and strict separation of current and future civilian nuclear facilities from non-civilian nuclear facilities and is willing to apply this principle to future facilities as well.

The new member also needs to assure NSG that it has provided and maintains a declaration to the IAEA that identifies all current and future civilian nuclear facilities.

The applicant also needs to assure NSG that it has enforced a safeguards agreement with the IAEA covering all declared civilian facilities and all future civilian facilities which the IAEA determines are eligible for safeguards.

Published in Dawn, December 28th, 2016
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Formula for new NSG members leaves Pakistan out: US group

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WASHINGTON: A draft proposal for accepting new members into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) paves the way for India’s entry but leaves Pakistan out, says a US-based arms control organisation.

The Arms Control Association (ACA), Washington, also warns that relaxing membership rules will undermine non-proliferation.

Last week, the US media reported that Rafael Mariano Grossi, a former chairman of the NSG, had prepared a two-page document, explaining how a non-NPT state, like India and Pakistan, could join the group. Mr Grossi was acting on behalf of the current chairman, Song Young-wan of South Korea, and his document enjoys a semi-official status.

To prevent India from blocking Pakistan from joining the NPT, Mr Grossi’s draft note proposes that “one non-NPT member state should reach an understanding not to block consensus on membership for another non-NPT member state”.

But ACA’s executive director, Daryl Kimball, warns that “Pakistan still has grounds to object to the formula outlined by Mr Grossi”. He explains that the document will require Pakistan to meet the same criteria for membership as India “but, to engage in civil nuclear trade with NSG states, it would have to win a separate NSG exemption from the full-scope safeguards requirement”.

The 48-nation NSG is a nuclear technology control organisation formed in 1975 in response to India’s first nuclear weapon test, which used plutonium produced with nuclear technology from Canada and the United States. The NSG seeks to prevent similar future misuses.

Current NSG membership rules require a state to sign the nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) before joining this exclusive club. India remains one of only three countries, with Israel and Pakistan, never to have signed the NPT.

Earlier this year, India formally applied for membership and was followed by Pakistan. The United States, and a host of other powerful western nations, back India’s application, but China and half a dozen other nations are blocking India’s membership, which requires a consensus of all members.

India had hoped to join the group during NSG’s last plenary session, held in Seoul in June this year, but the meeting ended without taking any decision on New Delhi’s application.

Several countries expressed concerns over India’s entry because it had not yet signed the NPT. China led the efforts to block India’s membership.

After the plenary, the new chairman asked Mr Grossi to work out a proposal for admitting new members. The proposal he prepared also addressed the India-Pakistan dispute, acknowledging that both countries had “political reasons” for blocking each other’s membership.

But Mr Kimball points out that Grossi’s formula allows India to claim that it has already undertaken the steps necessary for membership, “which could then lead to a decision on membership for India, while still leaving Pakistan in a different status”.

The proposal requires a non-NPT state to declare that it has brought into force a clear and strict separation of current and future civilian nuclear facilities from non-civilian nuclear facilities and is willing to apply this principle to future facilities as well.

The new member also needs to assure NSG that it has provided and maintains a declaration to the IAEA that identifies all current and future civilian nuclear facilities.

The applicant also needs to assure NSG that it has enforced a safeguards agreement with the IAEA covering all declared civilian facilities and all future civilian facilities which the IAEA determines are eligible for safeguards.

Published in Dawn, December 28th, 2016
I am unable to understand what is the difficulty in separating civilian and military reactors. MSG members will only support civilian reactors, there is no discrimination in that and neither any ploy or something. Can anybody please let me know why is difficult for Pakistan to separate military reactors from civilian reactors.
 
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India has a waiver from NSG. It has a signed a civil-nuclear deal with US, and recently with Japan. Signed MOU with Russia to build multiple reactors. India is acquiring nuclear technology and material from the world over. So tell me why membership to NSG is important for India besides a prestige issue?

In fact, Pakistan needs entry into NSG more than India.
 
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I believe if US keeps the relentless push, India will eventually get the nod to entre the NSG. China's opposition isn't indefinite and will eventually agree to the new proposal. However, this should not distract Pakistan from focusing on building her soft power through economic development and foremost the vision to become the energy and trade hub for Europe, Russia,Japan, China and Central Asia. This will automatically yield the diplomatic goodwill since Africa,ME,East Asia and Australia depend heavily on Chinese economy for trade and CPEC will help foster our relationships with them.
The one possible scenario can be Trump escalating China-US cold war to unprecedented levels which could lend Chinese legitimate reasons to keep a lid on Indian dreams of NSG but this would come at the cost of Pakistan's membership since US would play tit-for-tat in that case.
If Pakistan wishes to open nuclear trade, how is it possible if supplier doesn't know whether it's resources are being used for the intended purpose, not in building in military grade weapons material.
 
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Its more of a official status than anything , India has been trading & cooperating on nuclear projects for a decade .
 
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I will go ahead predict brutal crack down on Pakistan nukes development

So as per the new guidelines Pakistan will have to first pacify other nuclear suppliers for concession or same nuclear deals like India signed with wavier

Its more of a official status than anything , India has been trading & cooperating on nuclear projects for a decade .
But u need official recognition for other elite club entries. In few years India's defence spending will be more than of UK real terms. And our missile reach and nuclear weapons capabilities will match top 3 nuclear power house may it be on terms of civil nukes or military capabilities. China will find in difficult place to explain its veto on India. Only one reason could be justified. Insecured!!!

While recently Chinese defence spokesperson termed India and China as developing nation. Unlike morons in here claiming of being a super power. And want India and China to be partners rather than competent
 
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Sour grapes for the Obama administration. Trying every ploy in the book to get India into the fold. Won't happen. We already know the stance of NSG members and it is very divided for good reasons. The US cannot do a unilateral on this one. A pipe dream is all it will remain,

sour grapes from you

India got 40 votes. China is the only real obstacle.

Pakistan would be hard pressed to win 5 votes

I believe if US keeps the relentless push, India will eventually get the nod to entre the NSG. China's opposition isn't indefinite and will eventually agree to the new proposal. However, this should not distract Pakistan from focusing on building her soft power through economic development and foremost the vision to become the energy and trade hub for Europe, Russia,Japan, China and Central Asia. This will automatically yield the diplomatic goodwill since Africa,ME,East Asia and Australia depend heavily on Chinese economy for trade and CPEC will help foster our relationships with them.
The one possible scenario can be Trump escalating China-US cold war to unprecedented levels which could lend Chinese legitimate reasons to keep a lid on Indian dreams of NSG but this would come at the cost of Pakistan's membership since US would play tit-for-tat in that case.
even if USA agrees to Pakistan NSG membership there are scores of countries that would not
 
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India has a waiver from NSG. It has a signed a civil-nuclear deal with US, and recently with Japan. Signed MOU with Russia to build multiple reactors. India is acquiring nuclear technology and material from the world over. So tell me why membership to NSG is important for India besides a prestige issue?

In fact, Pakistan needs entry into NSG more than India.
The members of NSG make rules regarding nuclear trade and relevant issues. A non member cannot influence or participate in such decisions. That's why India needs a membership.
 
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