Former Taiwan premier to visit China

[Chinese-Dragon]

台湾不可能跟大陆和平统一。台湾人崇拜日本人的奴性以及劣根性相当明显。日本地震后台湾捐了巨大金额，结果日本回头马上就拿钱来购岛了。一群卑鄙的奴才。

那是你的意见。 不是我的。

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

台湾不可能跟大陆和平统一。台湾人崇拜日本人的奴性以及劣根性相当明显。日本地震后台湾捐了巨大金额，结果日本回头马上就拿钱来购岛了。一群卑鄙的奴才。

现在台湾主流观点已经是无限期的维持现状，中国战胜日本或者美帝之前不会改变。问题是，战争时候，台湾又很可能帮助敌方。

毛主席教导我们“笤帚不到，灰尘不会自己跑。” 统一还是需要强大的勇气，强大的力量！

谁是真实的中国人？就是支持毛泽东思想的！我们就是中华人民共和国的标准国民！

c'mon man not every Taiwanese are like that, there is some Japanophile such Lee tenhui...doesn't mean all such 李敖
let give them some time.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

c'mon man not every Taiwanese are like that, there is some Japanophile such Lee tenhui...doesn't mean all such 李敖
let give them some time.

In Ma Ying-jeou's recent speech after he won the re-election, he said that China and Taiwan are "一国两区"。

Not all of them are crazy like Chen Shui-bian. And Chen Shui-bian is now in prison for the rest of his life.

 

[terranMarine]

In Ma Ying-jeou's recent speech after he won the re-election, he said that China and Taiwan are "一国两区"。

Not all of them are crazy like Chen Shui-bian. And Chen Shui-bian is now in prison for the rest of his life.

On June 8, 2010, the Taipei District Court found Chen not guilty of embezzling diplomatic funds. On June 11, 2010, the High Court decided to reduce the former president Chen's life sentence to 20 years.

I don't think any Chinese members here would always agree with Sinochallenger's opinions. Obviously he has something against overseas Chinese.

 

[Sasquatch]

In Ma Ying-jeou's recent speech after he won the re-election, he said that China and Taiwan are "一国两区"。

Not all of them are crazy like Chen Shui-bian. And Chen Shui-bian is now in prison for the rest of his life.

Sino is chinese however he trolls majority of the time in which I'm forced to step in and give an infraction.

and Lee won't last long the old relics time will be up. Ma is moving in the right direction.

China on his shirt

 

[SinoChallenger]

Pity not everyone has the wisdom to recognize the reality behind the illusion.

Overseas Chinese don't live in China. They just don't understand the day to day reality.

台湾将击败中国...

Yeah I see the mod doing a great job.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

and Lee won't last long the old relics time will be up. Ma is moving in the right direction.

China on his shirt

He should get rid of the last part of the "中国国民党" on that shirt, and just write "中国" instead.

 

[cirr]

Updated Saturday, October 6, 2012 0:10 am TWN, CNA

DPP exchanges with China's communists inevitable: official

TAIPEI--Exchanges between the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) and the Communist Party of China (CPC) cannot be stopped, a former official versed in cross-Taiwan Strait affairs said yesterday in reference to former Premier Frank Hsieh's current visit to China.

Lin Chong-pin, a former deputy mainland affairs minister under the previous DPP administration, said Hsieh's trip represented a trend that could not be stopped.

He warned that if the party sticks to its old stance, it will falter again in the next national elections.

The DPP has long been seen as pro-Taiwan independence and anti-China, but it is thinking about revising its China policy after losing the 2012 presidential election in January.

Hsieh's trip has drawn attention because he is the highest-ranking official from when the DPP was in power from 2000-2008 to visit China.

Lin said Hsieh is just the latest in a line of senior DPP figures who have traveled to China recently, a trend he described as “a new sign of the transformation of the DPP.”

He also said the biggest difference between the DPP and the ruling Kuomintang has been its cross-Taiwan Strait policy, but the line between the two parties on the issue is gradually blurring.

The DPP will now strengthen its advocacy of environmental protection and a nuclear-free homeland to differentiate itself from the KMT, rather than focus on cross-strait policy differences, Lin suggested.

Chang Wu-yue, head of the Graduate Institute of China Studies at Tamkang University, said that if Hsieh's icebreaking trip is successful, he will leave a legacy for the DPP.

Chang noted, however, that Hsieh did not go there in his capacity as a member of the DPP's Central Executive Committee but rather as the head of a Taiwanese foundation.

“In the short and foreseeable future, it will be hard for the DPP and CPC to communicate and engage in dialogue in the name of their political parties,” he said.

With the DPP rejecting the existence of the so-called “1992 Consensus “favored by the KMT and its continued tilt toward Taiwan independence, Chang predicted that the DPP and CPC will only have contacts that are not public and not party-to-party in nature.

According to the KMT, the “1992 Consensus” refers to a consensus between Taiwan and China that there is only “one China,” but with each side free to interpret what that means.

DPP exchanges with China's communists inevitable: official - The China Post

 

[cirr]

Sun, Oct 07, 2012

Sincerity, goodwill are key to China relations: Hsieh

Staff writer, with CNA, Beijing

Former premier Frank Hsieh (謝長&#24311, who is on a landmark visit to China, said yesterday that sincerity and goodwill are key to overcoming differences between Taipei and Beijing.

“The two sides have to face each other, respect each other and deal with the differences between them in future. And although they need more time, they can overcome the differences as long as there is sincerity and goodwill,” Hsieh said after visiting the Institute of Taiwan Studies at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing.

Echoing Hsieh, Yu Keli (余克&#31150, director of the institute, acknowledged that time is needed to resolve differences between the two sides.

The Chinese academic said he welcomed more DPP members to pay private visits to China, which he thinks can enhance mutual understanding and help build consensus.

Hsieh, a former premier in the Chen Shui-bian (陳水&#25153 administration from 2000 to 2008, is on a five-day visit to China. He is the most senior Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) official ever to visit China.

While the stated main purpose of the visit is to attend the International Bartenders Association World Cocktail Championship in Beijing today, Hsieh has also used the opportunity to pay his respects to his ancestors in southeastern China’s Fujian Province, as well as to meet with Chinese academics and Fujian’s local government officials.

The visit, which began with Hsieh’s arrival in Xiamen on Oct. 4, is being widely watched as many see it potentially opening a path for Taiwan’s main opposition party to establish contact and dialogue with China.

The two sides have been at odds over the issue of Taiwan’s sovereignty. The DPP has traditionally supported Taiwan’s independence and separate identity from China. It has also rejected the “one China” principle and the “1992 consensus” as bases for developing relations with China.

The consensus, accepted by the Chinese Nationalist Party (KMT), refers to “one China with each side of the Taiwan Strait having its own interpretation.”

Hsieh said on Friday during a tour of Xiamen University that Taiwan and China needed to address their differences before economic relations can advance to a higher level.

Merely “agreeing to disagree” is insufficient to cope with the current challenges in cross-strait economic exchanges, said the politician who has been considered more flexible toward China affairs than other members of the DPP.

Joseph Wu (吳釗&#29166, an executive member of the DPP in charge of policy affairs who is on a visit to Washington, said on Friday that Hsieh’s itinerary in China did not include any political meetings — meaning meetings with Chinese officials to discuss cross-strait politics.

“Everything is happening as a matter of course,” Wu said.

Wu said that although Beijing has constantly urged the DPP to give up its pro-independence ideas and accept the “one China” principle, or at least to accept the “1992 consensus,” the DPP has never accepted the “political conditions.”

However, neither has the DPP rejected interaction with China, Wu said.

He reminded China not to forget the DPP’s existence when interacting with Taiwan.

Sincerity, goodwill are key to China relations: Hsieh - Taipei Times

 

[cirr]

Senior mainland official meets Hsieh Chang-ting

English.news.cn 2012-10-07 00:35:18

BEIJING, Oct. 6 (Xinhua) -- Chinese mainland's Taiwan affairs chief Wang Yi and Hsieh Chang-ting from Taiwan on Saturday held a meeting which was regarded as "beneficial" by both, a mainland spokesman said.

During the meeting in Beijing, Wang, director of the State Council Taiwan Affairs Office, briefed Mr. Hsieh on the latest development and the prospect of the mainland, said the office's spokesman Yang Yi.

Wang also explained the mainland's policies on Taiwan, Yang said.

Both sides regarded the meeting as "beneficial," Yang said.

Hsieh is visiting the mainland in his personal capacity as the chairman of the Taiwan Reform Foundation, the spokesman said.

Senior mainland official meets Hsieh Chang-ting - Xinhua | English.news.cn

 

[Rusty]

I don't see how the Communists and the Nationalists can get over their differences. They have been at war for nearly 100 years and neither of them have wavered in their positions. The China/Taiwan issue is such a mess and there is no end in sight.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

台湾将击败中国...

lol google translation...

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I think you guys are being too tough on SC. He tells some uncomfortable truths.

The only thing I recommend is toning it down overall and stop being the first to bash others in general. Know how stupid some of the bashers like JayATL look? I'm not pleased when I see bashers post, but it just discredits them. If we get attacked, sure, reply, but without provocative language and with only facts. It makes us look better.

 

[Plexyre]

Not expecting much from DPP but maybe this can help speed up the political reconciliation between the mainland and Taiwan.

 

[Nan Yang]

I don't see how the Communists and the Nationalists can get over their differences. They have been at war for nearly 100 years and neither of them have wavered in their positions. The China/Taiwan issue is such a mess and there is no end in sight.

Both the Communists and the Nationalists are Chinese and certainly have the wisdom to solve their own problems.