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By Asif Haroon Raja

Shamsi airbase near Kharan in turbulent Balochistan was in news for sometime but Karachi situation deflected the attention. Reportedly Shamsi base was built by Arab sheikhs in 1990s for Falcon shooting. Similar sites had been taken on lease in deserts of Bahawalpur region for sand grouse shooting.

The base under the use of US air force since September 2001 was taken over by CIA in 2004. It was renovated and expanded by building hangers and expanding infrastructure.

It was learnt at a later date that Gen Musharraf in his desperation to enter into good books of George W Bush had allowed the US military to use Pakistan’s four air bases in Balochistan at Jacobabad, Mirani, Shamsi and Dalbaldin to carryout air strikes in Afghanistan under Taliban from 7 October 2001 onwards. Use of airbases continued even after ouster of Taliban regime and capture of Afghanistan in December. CIA has made good use of Shamsi base to foment insurgency in Balochistan, and to monitor progress of terrorist activities of BLA, BLF, BRA and Lashkar-e-Balochistan. CIA together with MI-6 and RAW had helped the rebels in establishing about 60 training camps in interior Balochistan in 2005 and hideout for late Akbar Bugti.

Shamsi base was occupied by CIA because of its geo-strategic location. It is very close to Chaghai where Pakistan carried out nuclear tests in May 1998; Iran’s eastern border is only 100 miles away and with Blackhawk helicopters, CIA can carryout stealth flights close to the border. In addition, it could coordinate cross border terrorism in Iran’s Sistan province using Jundullah group and own agents based in Balochistan. Afghanistan’s southern border is only 100 miles away and cross border movement could be kept under close watch.

Quetta region can also be monitored to trace out alleged presence of Afghan Shura. Besides, Mekran Coast which stretches from Persian Gulf to the Arabian Sea in south is within its proximity to oversee Chinese activities in Gwadar Port and Indian Ocean. Shamsi and Mirani bases can facilitate naval amphibious landing whenever undertaken. Huge energy and mineral resources of Balochistan are also of great interest to USA. Since CIA draws too many advantages by keeping this base occupied, hence it is reluctant to vacate it.

News about leasing of Shamsi base to UAE came to light during the in-camera joint parliament session on 13 May 2011 in which the PAF deputy chief informed the House that the said base was not in control of the PAF. Harking back into history of 1960s, one may recall that Badaber airbase was quietly handed over to US air force by Gen Ayub Khan in 1958 and the base was secretly used for launching U-2 flights to spy on USSR. When Khrushchev marked Peshawar with red circle and threatened to destroy it, the base was hurriedly closed and was got vacated in July 1970 after the US failed to get the 10-year lease agreement extended.

At a later date in 2009, it was learnt that CIA was using Shamsi base to launch drone strikes in FATA. The government remained in denial mode even when Wikileaks and the US officials disclosed that drones were used under express permission of Pak government. It also came to light that the CIA had employed Blackwater elements in Shamsi base for loading and unloading of Hellfire missiles in drone launchers.

It is now to be ascertained as to what were the terms of agreement and the period for which Shamsi base had been leased, and accordingly a plan made to get it vacated the soonest. It is also to be determined whether UAE can sublet the base to another country? Reportedly, land supplies to Shamsi have been stopped, but more pro-active actions will be required to force CIA to quit at the earliest.

Blackwater elements have been withdrawn and its usage has been blocked but it is not clear whether it has been formally taken over by PAF. It is widely believed that Mehran Naval Base terrorist attack on 22 May was CIA-RAW sponsored to denude Pak Navy of surveillance capability along the coastal belt particularly Balochistan where their covert acts could be monitored by P-3C Orion aircraft.

Gwadar Port along Mekran Coast provides ideal exit point to the envisaged energy corridor from Central Asia. The US has been striving to gain control over Gwadar Port and to keep China away which had provided funds and technical assistance to make this project come on ground. Several Chinese working on Gwadar project were kidnapped and some killed so as to scare them away. Had Musharraf’s regime not handed over operation of the port to Singapore Company on the advice of USA, it would have been fully functional by now. Wasted time and effort can still be recouped if China is handed over full charge.

Use of drones by CIA was permitted by Musharraf to launch surveillance missions and find out about the whereabouts of al-Qaeda and Taliban fugitives hiding inside Pakistan. However, CIA broke this agreement when it launched a hellfire missile to kill Nek Muhammad in South Waziristan in 2004 and later on used it offensively in Bajaur in 2006 twice. It was believed that drones were being employed by CIA from Afghanistan. People of Pakistan came to know at a much later that all drone attacks were launched against targets in FATA from Shamsi airbase with the connivance of the government.

Under mounting pressure of the public, the top civilian leadership started making statements that drones being counter productive should be stopped. Two joint resolutions were also passed by the parliament. However, since the leaders spoke without conviction and sincerity, it made no impact on USA. Obama administration declared drone as a choice weapon and drone war continued. In the aftermath of Raymond Davis affair in January and Abbottabad sting operation in May this year which soured Pak-US relations, the Army and ISI undertook remedial measures to curtail American overbearing presence in Pakistan.

The US is however not reconciling to restrictions and is also continuing to use Predators with impunity on suspicion that Al-Qaeda leadership and Haqqani network are based in NW. In its desire to expand the operating radius of drones, the US sought official clearance to carryout covert drone strikes in Pashtun dominated Balochistan after circulating a made-up story that Mullah Omar with his Shura as well as Ayman al-Zawahiri were hiding in Balochistan. Pakistan is being pressed to allow establishment of American Consulate in Quetta and posting of liaison officer to HQ 12 Corps to help monitor activities of runaway Taliban and al-Qaeda hiding in Pashtun inhabited southwestern Balochistan.

Ironically, the US is least concerned about anti-Pakistan groups operating in Balochistan who are not only aspiring for independent Balochistan and involved in high scale terrorism, but are also inviting foreign powers and the UN to intervene and help them in achieving their objective. None of the Baloch terrorist groups banned by Pakistan has been put in the category of terrorism. Permission for use of drones is sought not for employment against them but against peaceful Pashtuns residing in southwestern Balochistan with ill-motives.

The US is constantly pressurizing Pakistan to do more but ignores Pakistan’s complaints against deep involvement of RAW in Balochistan using Afghan soil. Kunar and Nuristan provinces of Afghanistan are confirmed sanctuaries of all runaway militants from Swat and Malakand Division and are involved in frequent cross border attacks on Pakistani security check posts in Dir, Mohmand, Bajaur and Chitral, but the US takes no action because militants are patronized by Afghan warlords and foreign agencies.

Now that Dr Zulfiqar Mirza has disclosed startling news that MQM chief Altaf Hussain is conspiring with the US to dismember Pakistan, armed forces will have to be extra vigilant to frustrate the designs of our adversaries.





Foreign powers aiding rebels in Balochistan | Asian Tribune
 
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Omar, we (ISI) already know about it. For instance, the BLA HQ is based in Israel.
For second, the Pakistan Army or in particular the ISI has recovered foreign camps which looked Arabs staying there.

I have some proof, shared by the ISI but thats not to be posted here.
Its a Arab country, which already has operational military bases in Balouchistan and training camps for its soldiers, but those camps are used for other purposes when the Pakistani forces aren't training the forces of those Nation.
 
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Iraq n russia had supported these terrorists in the past... remember the incident when ammo cache was recovered frm the iraqi embassy by ISI.... It was Nawab Akbar who had provided the info abt the shipment.


USA... I remember a former ISI officer frm KP who on record said tht he had come to know frm his source tht a US cia offical was trying to "meet" people who want pashtunistan.... but his cover was blown and the american left the country the same day.

Our country has so many traitors... just look at altaf the faggot... who wrote a letter to tony blair tht he can get thousands of people on the streets for their benefit... if they dismantle ISI.

In baluchistan India,usa,afghanistan,arabs(whom gwadar will hurt) and to some extend russia is/was involved.

Sindhudesh=FAILED.
Pashtunistan=FAILED
Jinnahpur=FAILED
BLA=FAILED.
 
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Iraq n russia had supported these terrorists in the past... remember the incident when ammo cache was recovered frm the iraqi embassy by ISI.... It was Nawab Akbar who had provided the info abt the shipment.


USA... I remember a former ISI officer frm KP who on record said tht he had come to know frm his source tht a US cia offical was trying to "meet" people who want pashtunistan.... but his cover was blown and the american left the country the same day.

Our country has so many traitors... just look at altaf the faggot... who wrote a letter to tony blair tht he can get thousands of people on the streets for their benefit... if they dismantle ISI.

In baluchistan India,usa,afghanistan,arabs(whom gwadar will hurt) and to some extend russia is/was involved.

Sindhudesh=FAILED.
Pashtunistan=FAILED
Jinnahpur=FAILED
BLA=FAILED.

okey hete is a serious question why wuld russia be involved in balochistan what intrest will they have i doubt if they have any scores against you guys
 
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okey hete is a serious question why wuld russia be involved in balochistan what intrest will they have i doubt if they have any scores against you guys

Afghan war.... foriegn policy..

We have a senior member here on PDF whose uncle an SSG commando (Black stork) who was involved in covert ops inside afghanistan n some other country* against the russian spetsnaz.... he was picked up by the russians frm some ex-soviet block country and they recovered his body sometimes later... May his soul rest in peace...ameen!

Also it os a fact tht russia was involved in the past... not so sure abt the present.
 
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okey hete is a serious question why wuld russia be involved in balochistan what intrest will they have i doubt if they have any scores against you guys

Wisdom says that when knowledge is limited, one should not open their mouth goes on to show how stupid one is. The question you asked about Russia, well they were neck deep in mud along with you guys during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, and Balochistan was no exception.
 
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Iraq n russia had supported these terrorists in the past... remember the incident when ammo cache was recovered frm the iraqi embassy by ISI.... It was Nawab Akbar who had provided the info abt the shipment.


USA... I remember a former ISI officer frm KP who on record said tht he had come to know frm his source tht a US cia offical was trying to "meet" people who want pashtunistan.... but his cover was blown and the american left the country the same day.

Our country has so many traitors... just look at altaf the faggot... who wrote a letter to tony blair tht he can get thousands of people on the streets for their benefit... if they dismantle ISI.

In baluchistan India,usa,afghanistan,arabs(whom gwadar will hurt) and to some extend russia is/was involved.

Sindhudesh=FAILED.
Pashtunistan=FAILED
Jinnahpur=FAILED
BLA=FAILED.


Because of ISI, Pak Fauj, and with the help of Allah (swt), our country is still standing. So many people hate the existence of Pakistan.

And if there is no Pakistan, then there is no Pakistanis, which means there is no us wherever we are in the world.

LONG LIVE ISI, PAK FAUJ, AND THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN.

DEATH TO OUR ENEMIES.
 
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everything can be solved if BALOCHISTAN is given its rights, Musharraf dog did much damage by killing Nawab Akbar Bhugti (he who joined hands with Jinnah, ref book: great leader)

still the other day, a little reconciliation efforts by government has resulted into brahamdagh bugti giving a positive response, I am sure every Balochi is a pro-Pakistani but they have been deprived from their rights by the centre...

its we who have given the foreign forces to take advantage of our weaknesses...
 
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everything can be solved if BALOCHISTAN is given its rights, Musharraf dog did much damage by killing Nawab Akbar Bhugti (he who joined hands with Jinnah, ref book: great leader)

still the other day, a little reconciliation efforts by government has resulted into brahamdagh bugti giving a positive response, I am sure every Balochi is a pro-Pakistani but they have been deprived from their rights by the centre...

its we who have given the foreign forces to take advantage of our weaknesses...

Think again !

it has nothing to do with the people of Baluchistan or the rest of Pakistan.

This is a war between the feudal lords of Sindh, south punjab and Baluchistan.
 
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More development and job creation will solve the Baluchistan problem.
 
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Balochistan is slipping and it certainly not because of any foreign powers.

Its just that the young ones of Balochistan are looking for an alternative historical narrative as the current Pakistani identitiy that they thought as theirs is unable to offer answers or solace. The Pak umbrella what they see now is a one that is fighting fellow Muslims, fellow people, in Karachi, in Afghan borders and is also the one that is taking away their property and wealth to feed this mighty militiary machine.

Added to that they see the newly settled people who do not talk their language or share their culture as an alien. Pakistani Islamic identity, a great force of unification at one point of time, no longer seems to work. While Bangladeshi Muslims, once they started rebelling from the Urudu/Punjabi militiary elite, were dismissed as quasi Hindus or undeveloped Muslims fit to be violently re-educated, the same approach with Balochis will not work.

The Mullah mindset combined with the professional army action of Pakistan armed forces might not yield the same result! Baloch population has almost crossed the line.

Pakistani Army, which all the time was capable, professional and ruthless to root out such insurgencies within its territory looks like a hollow image of what it was. The ISI and army has been wormed out from inside to a large extent and its repeated failures in not stopping bombings inside prime locations is a clear proof. Of course, Pak army is still a very powerfull organization and its not just going to fall like nine pins.

However this time around the challenge is also political. The Pak army cannot just shoot away and crush the movement as it did decades ago. The world now watches such agression and none can just do what he wants. Saddam Hussain paid for it and Gaddafi in a few months/ days time. Bashar Assad too will soon pay the price for crushing ordinary people.

Being the case, Mr Kiyani understands the situation and is quite reluctant to provoke anything that will make the world develop more ill will towards Pakistan. Mr. Kiyani's reluctance and fear is the only thing that keeps Mr. Zardari and his men in power. If anybody can act in Balochisthan for a calm solution, its going to be him or of course an alternative elected goverbment, say that of Mr. Nawaz Shariff's.

Baloch population will probably listen to Mr. Zardari's government and he has the legitimacy to cool things down. The promises and steps his elected government can give to them is a much better alternative to the one that the PAK army can give. For the average Baloch's opinion about the Pakistan Army's intention is nothing to gloat about. I maybe only speculating, but it looks like he truth.

Mr. Zardari should form a roundtable with Mr. Nawaz and of course with Baloch nationalists to address grievances. Pakistani Army should be kept at arms length in this entire discourse.

But sadly, this is not about to happen anytime soon as most of opinion makers in Pakistan want to take a path of "crushing the Baloch trouble makers"!! The popular sentiment in elite of Pakistan seems to be the same. The have forgotten teh Bangla bungle.

Eventhough Baloch is not Bangladesh, it can become one soon enough. The current world outlook is a one that might not be keen on defending Pakistan's violence on its own population!

The world has changed and Pakistan better watch out!
 
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By Asif Haroon Raja

Shamsi airbase near Kharan in turbulent Balochistan was in news for sometime but Karachi situation deflected the attention. Reportedly Shamsi base was built by Arab sheikhs in 1990s for Falcon shooting. Similar sites had been taken on lease in deserts of Bahawalpur region for sand grouse shooting.

The base under the use of US air force since September 2001 was taken over by CIA in 2004. It was renovated and expanded by building hangers and expanding infrastructure.

It was learnt at a later date that Gen Musharraf in his desperation to enter into good books of George W Bush had allowed the US military to use Pakistan’s four air bases in Balochistan at Jacobabad, Mirani, Shamsi and Dalbaldin to carryout air strikes in Afghanistan under Taliban from 7 October 2001 onwards. Use of airbases continued even after ouster of Taliban regime and capture of Afghanistan in December. CIA has made good use of Shamsi base to foment insurgency in Balochistan, and to monitor progress of terrorist activities of BLA, BLF, BRA and Lashkar-e-Balochistan. CIA together with MI-6 and RAW had helped the rebels in establishing about 60 training camps in interior Balochistan in 2005 and hideout for late Akbar Bugti.

Shamsi base was occupied by CIA because of its geo-strategic location. It is very close to Chaghai where Pakistan carried out nuclear tests in May 1998; Iran’s eastern border is only 100 miles away and with Blackhawk helicopters, CIA can carryout stealth flights close to the border. In addition, it could coordinate cross border terrorism in Iran’s Sistan province using Jundullah group and own agents based in Balochistan. Afghanistan’s southern border is only 100 miles away and cross border movement could be kept under close watch.

Quetta region can also be monitored to trace out alleged presence of Afghan Shura. Besides, Mekran Coast which stretches from Persian Gulf to the Arabian Sea in south is within its proximity to oversee Chinese activities in Gwadar Port and Indian Ocean. Shamsi and Mirani bases can facilitate naval amphibious landing whenever undertaken. Huge energy and mineral resources of Balochistan are also of great interest to USA. Since CIA draws too many advantages by keeping this base occupied, hence it is reluctant to vacate it.

News about leasing of Shamsi base to UAE came to light during the in-camera joint parliament session on 13 May 2011 in which the PAF deputy chief informed the House that the said base was not in control of the PAF. Harking back into history of 1960s, one may recall that Badaber airbase was quietly handed over to US air force by Gen Ayub Khan in 1958 and the base was secretly used for launching U-2 flights to spy on USSR. When Khrushchev marked Peshawar with red circle and threatened to destroy it, the base was hurriedly closed and was got vacated in July 1970 after the US failed to get the 10-year lease agreement extended.

At a later date in 2009, it was learnt that CIA was using Shamsi base to launch drone strikes in FATA. The government remained in denial mode even when Wikileaks and the US officials disclosed that drones were used under express permission of Pak government. It also came to light that the CIA had employed Blackwater elements in Shamsi base for loading and unloading of Hellfire missiles in drone launchers.

It is now to be ascertained as to what were the terms of agreement and the period for which Shamsi base had been leased, and accordingly a plan made to get it vacated the soonest. It is also to be determined whether UAE can sublet the base to another country? Reportedly, land supplies to Shamsi have been stopped, but more pro-active actions will be required to force CIA to quit at the earliest.

Blackwater elements have been withdrawn and its usage has been blocked but it is not clear whether it has been formally taken over by PAF. It is widely believed that Mehran Naval Base terrorist attack on 22 May was CIA-RAW sponsored to denude Pak Navy of surveillance capability along the coastal belt particularly Balochistan where their covert acts could be monitored by P-3C Orion aircraft.

Gwadar Port along Mekran Coast provides ideal exit point to the envisaged energy corridor from Central Asia. The US has been striving to gain control over Gwadar Port and to keep China away which had provided funds and technical assistance to make this project come on ground. Several Chinese working on Gwadar project were kidnapped and some killed so as to scare them away. Had Musharraf’s regime not handed over operation of the port to Singapore Company on the advice of USA, it would have been fully functional by now. Wasted time and effort can still be recouped if China is handed over full charge.

Use of drones by CIA was permitted by Musharraf to launch surveillance missions and find out about the whereabouts of al-Qaeda and Taliban fugitives hiding inside Pakistan. However, CIA broke this agreement when it launched a hellfire missile to kill Nek Muhammad in South Waziristan in 2004 and later on used it offensively in Bajaur in 2006 twice. It was believed that drones were being employed by CIA from Afghanistan. People of Pakistan came to know at a much later that all drone attacks were launched against targets in FATA from Shamsi airbase with the connivance of the government.

Under mounting pressure of the public, the top civilian leadership started making statements that drones being counter productive should be stopped. Two joint resolutions were also passed by the parliament. However, since the leaders spoke without conviction and sincerity, it made no impact on USA. Obama administration declared drone as a choice weapon and drone war continued. In the aftermath of Raymond Davis affair in January and Abbottabad sting operation in May this year which soured Pak-US relations, the Army and ISI undertook remedial measures to curtail American overbearing presence in Pakistan.

The US is however not reconciling to restrictions and is also continuing to use Predators with impunity on suspicion that Al-Qaeda leadership and Haqqani network are based in NW. In its desire to expand the operating radius of drones, the US sought official clearance to carryout covert drone strikes in Pashtun dominated Balochistan after circulating a made-up story that Mullah Omar with his Shura as well as Ayman al-Zawahiri were hiding in Balochistan. Pakistan is being pressed to allow establishment of American Consulate in Quetta and posting of liaison officer to HQ 12 Corps to help monitor activities of runaway Taliban and al-Qaeda hiding in Pashtun inhabited southwestern Balochistan.

Ironically, the US is least concerned about anti-Pakistan groups operating in Balochistan who are not only aspiring for independent Balochistan and involved in high scale terrorism, but are also inviting foreign powers and the UN to intervene and help them in achieving their objective. None of the Baloch terrorist groups banned by Pakistan has been put in the category of terrorism. Permission for use of drones is sought not for employment against them but against peaceful Pashtuns residing in southwestern Balochistan with ill-motives.

The US is constantly pressurizing Pakistan to do more but ignores Pakistan’s complaints against deep involvement of RAW in Balochistan using Afghan soil. Kunar and Nuristan provinces of Afghanistan are confirmed sanctuaries of all runaway militants from Swat and Malakand Division and are involved in frequent cross border attacks on Pakistani security check posts in Dir, Mohmand, Bajaur and Chitral, but the US takes no action because militants are patronized by Afghan warlords and foreign agencies.

Now that Dr Zulfiqar Mirza has disclosed startling news that MQM chief Altaf Hussain is conspiring with the US to dismember Pakistan, armed forces will have to be extra vigilant to frustrate the designs of our adversaries.





Foreign powers aiding rebels in Balochistan | Asian Tribune

Old rant... Better "Asif Haroon Raja" come with some proof, rather than spreading misinformation. Many time Pakistani politicians talk bout foreign involvment in Baluchistan, Not a single time they came with authentic proofs.

I remember one TV show (rehman Malik), when the host Asked bout proof of Indian involvement in balochistan , He said " I will produce it in appropriate time". Its been 2 and half year, neither he came with proof, nor his appropriate time came..

I am amused by reading such conspiracy theories provided by Pakistani generals.. According to Mr Asif Haroon Raja USA,Russia,India,Britain,Arab nations etc are directly involved in destabilizing pakistan.

Mr Asif Haroon Raja , can you please come with some proof???
 
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Iraq n russia had supported these terrorists in the past... remember the incident when ammo cache was recovered frm the iraqi embassy by ISI.... It was Nawab Akbar who had provided the info abt the shipment.


USA... I remember a former ISI officer frm KP who on record said tht he had come to know frm his source tht a US cia offical was trying to "meet" people who want pashtunistan.... but his cover was blown and the american left the country the same day.

Our country has so many traitors... just look at altaf the faggot... who wrote a letter to tony blair tht he can get thousands of people on the streets for their benefit... if they dismantle ISI.

In baluchistan India,usa,afghanistan,arabs(whom gwadar will hurt) and to some extend russia is/was involved.

Sindhudesh=FAILED.
Pashtunistan=FAILED
Jinnahpur=FAILED
BLA=FAILED.

Others failed only once. BLA several times. ;)

Talk about persistence by Pakistan's enemies. Can't quit playing used cards. :lol:
 
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