Foreign air lines to start operations in pakistan

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https://www.dawn.com/news/1470486/foreign-airlines-to-launch-operation-from-pakistan-soon-minister

KARACHI: Federal Minister for Privatisation and Aviation Mohammed Mian Soomro has said that six to eight foreign airlines are interested in launching their operation from Pakistan.

Talking to the media after planting a sapling at Karachi airport on Monday, he said that Air France, Norwegian Air and a Saudi airline were among those carriers which intended to begin their operation in Pakistan.

He said that because of providing ease of doing business foreign airlines wanted to start operations in Pakistan and talks were continuing with them.

The minister said that the new aviation policy had been sent to the federal cabinet for its approval.

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“The new policy aims at sustainable growth in the aviation sector by rationalising charges levied on operators by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) and by offering them more incentives to ensure healthy competition for providing more relief to passengers,” he added. He said that in the new policy the rationalisation of different financial charges to airlines would attract investors to start domestic airlines in Pakistan. This would significantly contribute to the country’s economic growth, he added.

According to a press release, the CAA’s one-employee-one-tree plantation campaign is continuing at all airports in line with the clean and green Pakistan programme of Prime Minister Imran Khan.

Only at Karachi airport, 100,000 saplings of various indigenous species and fruits would be planted during the current year.

Senior CAA officials, including deputy directors general Khawar Ghayas and Air Commodore Syed Nasir Raza Hamdani and Airport Manager Zafar Aitemad were also present on the occasion.

Published in Dawn, March 19th, 2019

 

[Khafee]

Congratulations

 

[Rusty]

Pakistan needs to reduce the taxes for airline tickets. On a flight to Pakistan, half the ticket price is taxes.
Low/no taxes mean cheaper tickets, meaning more tourist. Flight to India can be as low as $200 from some places, same fight to Pakistan is $400-500..

 

[Sully3]

Just when you think PIA might be on the right track goverment wants to make its life harder.

BA is going to take away a big chunk of PIA business when they start their UK Islmabad route, taking the millions of kashmiris from UK to ISB

 

[Khafee]

Just when you think PIA might be on the right track goverment wants to make its life harder.

BA is going to take away a big chunk of PIA business when they start their UK Islmabad route, taking the millions of kashmiris from UK to ISB

So shouldn't PIA improve it's service, so that it can compete globally, instead of the govt protecting it?

IMO, it is better for the passengers.

 

[shaded]

Im in the wrong thread ....

 

[Khafee]

Pakistan needs to reduce the taxes for airline tickets. On a flight to Pakistan, half the ticket price is taxes.
Low/no taxes mean cheaper tickets, meaning more tourist. Flight to India can be as low as $200 from some places, same fight to Pakistan is $400-500..

With Overseas Pakistanis contributing via remittances, the Govt. should take this into account and make air travel cheaper.

It is very heart breaking to see a grown man crying, because he is unable to save enough money to buy a ticket and go home to see his kids, or to see his old parents one last time. Its gut wrenching.

 

[Sully3]

So shouldn't PIA improve it's service, so that it can compete globally, instead of the govt protecting it?

airline industry isnt an easy business to be in at the moment.

forget PIA top airlines like British airways, American airlines, Lufthansa etc just cant compete with airlines from the middle east who get their oil dirty cheap by their respective goverments. And thats where the price issue comes in and the service goes down.

I have friend who is cabin crew with BA, i asked her why does BA run so many flights daily from London heathrow to dubai knowing very well the emirates ticket is cheaper and they have about 10 flights daily to Dubai from london. her answer shocked me when she said most airlines are going empty to places like the middle east so that they can get cheap fuel at these destinantions so they fly their daily with countless flights because the fuel prices being so low at these destinantions.

had PIA got cheap fuel like emirates, eithad, qatar etc do they would also be one of the leading airlines of the world right now. cheaper fuel means, cheaper tickets, which means more customers, which means profit, which means new planes and getting planes on finance at good rates.

 

[Khafee]

airline industry isnt an easy business to be in at the moment.

forget PIA top airlines like British airways, American airlines, Lufthansa etc just cant compete with airlines from the middle east who get their oil dirty cheap by their respective goverments. And thats where the price issue comes in and the service goes down.

I have friend who is cabin crew with BA, i asked her why does BA run so many flights daily from London heathrow to dubai knowing very well the emirates ticket is cheaper and they have about 10 flights daily to Dubai from london. her answer shocked me when she said most airlines are going empty to places like the middle east so that they can get cheap fuel at these destinantions so they fly their daily with countless flights because the fuel prices being so low at these destinantions.

had PIA got cheap fuel like emirates, eithad, qatar etc do they would also be one of the leading airlines of the world right now. cheaper fuel means, cheaper tickets, which means more customers, which means profit, which means new planes and getting planes on finance at good rates.

Oil dirt cheap you say? Oh there goes that theory:

flydubai posts Dh159.8 million loss for 2018 due to rising fuel costs
https://gulfnews.com/business/aviat...2018-due-to-rising-fuel-costs-1.1550657607223

 

[Sully3]

Oil dirt cheap you say? Oh there goes that theory:

flydubai posts Dh159.8 million loss for 2018 due to rising fuel costs
https://gulfnews.com/business/aviat...2018-due-to-rising-fuel-costs-1.1550657607223

i was taking about goverment owned airlines like Emirates, Eithad, Qatar, Kuwait air, Oman air, Saudi arabian airlines.

fly dubai is a low cost local airline that was never intended to compete with the likes of BA, AA, Qantas etc. but strange that Fly dubai is not getting goverment fuel subsidies even though its owned by the goverment.

Also profit making airlines like emirates will always have the latest planes which means the most fuel eficent planes on the market. another factor why other airlines operating older planes cant compete with middle east airline prices.

 

[Khafee]

i was taking about goverment owned airlines like Emirates, Eithad, Qatar, Kuwait air, Oman air, Saudi arabian airlines.

fly dubai is a low cost local airline that was never intended to compete with the likes of BA, AA, Qantas etc. but strange that Fly dubai is not getting goverment fuel subsidies even though its owned by the goverment.

My friend, less than 5% of Dubai's GDP is from Oil, how do you expect it to give subsidies to Fly Dubai or Emirates.

Secondly, Ethiad Airlines has been running in the -ve for the last 3 years.
https://australianaviation.com.au/2019/03/etihad-posts-third-straight-us1-billion-annual-loss/

 

[Sully3]

My friend, less than 5% of Dubai's GDP is from Oil, how do you expect it to give subsidies to Fly Dubai or Emirates.

Secondly, Ethiad Airlines has been running in the -ve for the last 3 years.
https://australianaviation.com.au/2019/03/etihad-posts-third-straight-us1-billion-annual-loss/

ok mate for a moment i believe you that these airlines arent getting cheap fuel and my firend cabin crew for BA was lying when she said only reason BA was operating so many flights to dubai daily was to get cheap fuel.

so what is reason emirates, qatar etc have become world leaders in the airline industry ?

 

[cloud4000]

Many airlines, especially in US and Europe, have accused the ME3 -- Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar -- of receiving massive government subsidies, including lower fuel costs, simply because they are state-owned. The airlines deny this, of course, but accusations still persist.

Personally, the ME3 provide better service and better connections, especially if you are traveling to South Asia. The ME3 fly to destinations most US and European airlines deem unprofitable.

 

[Khafee]

ok mate for a moment i believe you that these airlines arent getting cheap fuel and my firend cabin crew for BA was lying when she said only reason BA was operating so many flights to dubai daily was to get cheap fuel.

so what is reason emirates, qatar etc have become world leaders in the airline industry ?

Cabin crew commenting on cheap fuel, Lets put that aside. Open up a flt booking website, book a ticket for tomorrow, then have a look at the passenger load. Dubai is a tourist spot, Brits are the top investors in Dubai's Real Estate ( as per the Land Dept)

How much sense does it make to fly a B747 - BA0107, A340 - BA0105, B777- BA01090 (Ac type & tomms flt No. mentioned) to DXB fuel up and fly it empty, unless they are tankers, not a lot.

Many airlines, especially in US and Europe, have accused the ME3 -- Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar -- of receiving massive government subsidies, including lower fuel costs, simply because they are state-owned. The airlines deny this, of course, but accusations still persist.

Personally, the ME3 provide better service and better connections, especially if you are traveling to South Asia. The ME3 fly to destinations most US and European airlines deem unprofitable.

Accusations, are just that. One also has to look at the service and conectivity, what the M3 provide, US carriers can't even dream of. Having flown Delta and United, the M3 are worlds apart.

 

[Sully3]

Cabin crew commenting on cheap fuel, Lets put that aside. Open up a flt booking website, book a ticket for tomorrow, then have a look at the passenger load. Dubai is a tourist spot, Brits are the top investors in Dubai's Real Estate ( as per the Land Dept)

How much sense does it make to fly a B747 - BA0107, A340 - BA0105, B777- BA01090 (Ac type & tomms flt No. mentioned) to DXB fuel up and fly it empty, unless they are tankers, not a lot.

you can check seat avalibility for the BA flights daily to dubai to see the passenger load and then compare it to emirates or even eithad.

Also you havent answered my question why are middle eastern airlines doing so well when the rest of the worlds airlines are loosing money. And please dont give Eithad as an example, it was always going to struggle to keep up with the worlds best airlines emirates. other then goverment officals and passengers using AD as a layover destinantion no one goes to AD.

Many airlines, especially in US and Europe, have accused the ME3 -- Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar -- of receiving massive government subsidies, including lower fuel costs, simply because they are state-owned. The airlines deny this, of course, but accusations still persist.

Personally, the ME3 provide better service and better connections, especially if you are traveling to South Asia. The ME3 fly to destinations most US and European airlines deem unprofitable.

mate other then people living in the middle east everyone and their dog knows these oil rich states are giving massive subsidies to their state owned airlines.

imagine BA or AA CEO's going to 10 downing street or the white house asking for cheap fuel and subsidies, they would be laughed out the building. where as its a completely different story in the ME. the ruler of dubai has said countless times his emirates airline project is his pride and joy.