For the First Time, India's Once-Secret Sub Will Join War Games with US, Japan

[Rangila]

There is no rational against hiding Kilo class submarine silence.
For China has it. Both Poland & Romania (EU as well as NATO nations) have them.
So this article is akin to STFU.

 

[HariPrasad]

New Delhi: It has been called a "hole in the water," a submarine so quiet that detecting it is often impossible for even the most advanced navies.

This is simply great.

 

[Rangila]

Russia would be very unhappy with this move.

No it wont be.
Because it has came up with Varshavyanka-class, which is even more silent than Kilo class.

 

[MEAGAN FOXSS]

WHAT IS THE NAME OF SECRET SUB LOL . . . .

 

[haviZsultan]

Typical arrogant US behavior. In an exercise with our enemy just like they provided nuke tech to India in an illegal nuclear deal. Treason is in the blood of Americans. The tilt of US to India should be ringing alarm bells in Islamabad.

US is going to betray us one day-just like the pressler amendment came when we were not needed anymore after the Afghan Soviet war. Already their councils are discussing "steps against Pakistan" which include embargoes and sanctions. We should have chosen our allies better. A state sponser of terror in Afghanistan in the 1980's and now coming back to fight the same terrorists they created. Sounds like a terror state to me. US is by far the champion of aggressive expansion. Time to kick them from their bases in Pakistan unless they start treating us like an "equal ally.

 

[Argon Prime]

Typical arrogant US behavior. In an exercise with our enemy just like they provided nuke tech to India in an illegal nuclear deal. Treason is in the blood of Americans. The tilt of US to India should be ringing alarm bells in Islamabad.

US is going to betray us one day-just like the pressler amendment came when we were not needed anymore after the Afghan Soviet war. Already their councils are discussing "steps against Pakistan" which include embargoes and sanctions. We should have chosen our allies better. A state sponser of terror in Afghanistan in the 1980's and now coming back to fight the same terrorists they created. Sounds like a terror state to me. US is by far the champion of aggressive expansion. Time to kick them from their bases in Pakistan unless they start treating us like an "equal ally.

 

[FOX80]

How Russia will react that is not Indian concern now. If Russia is serious about India then why they are selling same and some times more advance weapons to our direct Enemy read both Pakistan and China. All matter of money. Black mailing will not work any more here.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Russia is least bothered abt kilo subs ..
Whatever new subs we get from Russia none will ever participate in a joint exercise with USA for a period of minimum 15 years post which again they wont create a fuss for any joint exercise.

The hole in the water is actually black hole @HariPrasad. The original paste was this

Notice bottom right quote in highlighted in different background color.
Damn they did not copy paste prprly....

Poland and Romania also has 877 EKM and are in EU and NATO. So their signatures are already in the system for IFF as well as detection for ASW fleet/assets.

The writer is just trying way too hard to sensationalize something which is irrelevant actually.

The exercise if you see the assets deployed other thn ACC all are more of second line ships/subs/assets... Since now its trilateral and we dont want to many eyebrows raised hence this type of a second line exercise. The day you see ACC with Ohio/virginia class subs, Japan with Soryu subs and latest ASW ships and India deploying Kolkata class, Kamorta, Vikramaditya etc participating then you can guage the true extent of cooperation, trust and joint military opportunities.

then again its NDTV report.. Since Anil Ambani's Pipavav is now more like a regional MRO with a scope of upgrading the existing kilo subs as well as building new ones, its right time to market and write big about kilo subs noise level..... Somebody shooting at some ones with shoulder support but gun pointing other way...Paid media ? perhaps but done smartly to avoid being called so outright...

 

[Abingdonboy]

Typical arrogant US behavior. In an exercise with our enemy just like they provided nuke tech to India in an illegal nuclear deal. Treason is in the blood of Americans. The tilt of US to India should be ringing alarm bells in Islamabad.

US is going to betray us one day-just like the pressler amendment came when we were not needed anymore after the Afghan Soviet war. Already their councils are discussing "steps against Pakistan" which include embargoes and sanctions. We should have chosen our allies better. A state sponser of terror in Afghanistan in the 1980's and now coming back to fight the same terrorists they created. Sounds like a terror state to me. US is by far the champion of aggressive expansion. Time to kick them from their bases in Pakistan unless they start treating us like an "equal ally.

There is no such thing as permeant friends in international relations, only permeant interests. If you and your leadership were not wise enough to see that one day your utility to the US would have been served and you would be "dumped" more fool you. Pakistan seems unable to accept this reality and instead keeps jumping between beds (US, China and now-perhaps- Russia) hoping for a free ride and expecting reciprocal affection. You keep making the same mistakes, instead of pursuing your own interests you align with others, hoping your interests will converge, but end up becoming their lackey.

 

[dadeechi]

What is Russia going to do about it?

The question is not what Russia is going to do but what India is going to gain or loose.

No it wont be.
Because it has came up with Varshavyanka-class, which is even more silent than Kilo class.

Sure. But intent is as important as the impact.

Russia is least bothered abt kilo subs ..
Whatever new subs we get from Russia none will ever participate in a joint exercise with USA for a period of minimum 15 years post which again they wont create a fuss for any joint exercise.

The hole in the water is actually black hole @HariPrasad. The original paste was this

Notice bottom right quote in highlighted in different background color.
Damn they did not copy paste prprly....

Poland and Romania also has 877 EKM and are in EU and NATO. So their signatures are already in the system for IFF as well as detection for ASW fleet/assets.

The writer is just trying way too hard to sensationalize something which is irrelevant actually.

The exercise if you see the assets deployed other thn ACC all are more of second line ships/subs/assets... Since now its trilateral and we dont want to many eyebrows raised hence this type of a second line exercise. The day you see ACC with Ohio/virginia class subs, Japan with Soryu subs and latest ASW ships and India deploying Kolkata class, Kamorta, Vikramaditya etc participating then you can guage the true extent of cooperation, trust and joint military opportunities.

then again its NDTV report.. Since Anil Ambani's Pipavav is now more like a regional MRO with a scope of upgrading the existing kilo subs as well as building new ones, its right time to market and write big about kilo subs noise level..... Somebody shooting at some ones with shoulder support but gun pointing other way...Paid media ? perhaps but done smartly to avoid being called so outright...

Hope Russia does not think like " With friends like these (Re: India) who needs enemies (Re: Poland and Romania)"

 

[Rangila]

@dadeechi

Sure. But intent is as important as the impact.

To achieve what?

 

[dadeechi]

@dadeechi

Sure. But intent is as important as the impact.

To achieve what?

Sorry! I do not understand your question.