For pakistanis only. Are you guys ready to be ruled by zardari n nawaz n their kids.this is your last chance..

[mudas777]

no its not lack of education.

Everyone in universe knows what is right and what is wrong. Its ego issue in our society that dont want to admit that they were wrong in choosing nawaz or zardari simple is that.

So do you think in the advanced economies people behave, act in the organised, planned and certain ways have got no idea about rights and wrongs? The choices they make in their leadership selections they get it by dreaming at night and find the slip lying on there pillows in the morning? They don't know about morals, corruption, law and order, what's right for them and for there country and they just have drowned their ego's with the glass of wine? Most industrialized world is not even religious so how they are observing laws, following their system and moral campus and what ever they believe in? Very simplistic isn't?
Pakistan have got a major problem with ignorance, ego's, clans, choudries, sardars, village mentality so rights and wrongs they don't care about when they are voting. Money is becoming king and taking bribes is becoming the norm.

Until nation doesn't starts reading from the same book, taught the same system and same laws are followed by all, nothing will change and it takes at least 3 generations and without education and trained work force, we are not going anywhere.
Build as many palaces you like on the unstable mountain, it is going to take one land slide and you are going to find yourself on the ground zero so lets deal with the under lying causes before we build a home. China, Singapore, Korea were no much different few decades ago and the progress they have made hasn't came over night. 30 years, good leaders, good education, country walked in the same direction poverty is done and dusted.

 

[Ahmad Saleem]

Impossible. Can you guys not understand that Pakistani society is not like Chinese, Russian or Turkish etc. They are highly cohesive and homogenous. Their cohesive social heirarchy pulls them towards centralized rule under one strong man.

In Pakistan it's quite the opposite. Instead of being a society - which suggests a people who conform to one set of social order Pakistani population is more a large mob.

You get 100 Paks and they will strugle to agree on one thing. Divided by ethnicity, religion, social class, cultures, regions, tribes, clans, biradris etc means for every 100 Paks you will get 50 differant views pulling and conflicting against each other.

If one wins the rest will be dong everything to pull him down by any means possible.Even military leaders have to tread on eggs or lest they get pulled down.

I saw a social experiment how 10 random Japanese quickly ordered themselves into a team and then each person fell in a precise pecking order - then they just got on with the task they were asked to do as a TEAM.

You get 10 random Paks and they will be end up in a conflict long after the time for task has ran out over who will be boss. To put it bluntly Pakistan has too many wannbe chiefs and not enough wanting to Indians.

Such a society will produce exactly the politics you see in Pakistan.

Well no, If the party or leader is punjab based then it's a problem. In case of PTI, its not a punjab based party. There are other countries that are not homogeneous and have progressed under an authoritarian system. Just see Rwanda and Singapore and also bangladesh.

Impossible. Can you guys not understand that Pakistani society is not like Chinese, Russian or Turkish etc. They are highly cohesive and homogenous. Their cohesive social heirarchy pulls them towards centralized rule under one strong man.

In Pakistan it's quite the opposite. Instead of being a society - which suggests a people who conform to one set of social order Pakistani population is more a large mob.

You get 100 Paks and they will strugle to agree on one thing. Divided by ethnicity, religion, social class, cultures, regions, tribes, clans, biradris etc means for every 100 Paks you will get 50 differant views pulling and conflicting against each other.

If one wins the rest will be dong everything to pull him down by any means possible.Even military leaders have to tread on eggs or lest they get pulled down.

I saw a social experiment how 10 random Japanese quickly ordered themselves into a team and then each person fell in a precise pecking order - then they just got on with the task they were asked to do as a TEAM.

You get 10 random Paks and they will be end up in a conflict long after the time for task has ran out over who will be boss. To put it bluntly Pakistan has too many wannbe chiefs and not enough wanting to Indians.

Such a society will produce exactly the politics you see in Pakistan.

Even russia is also a product of multiple ethnicities. Muslims are a big part of russia. There are chechen, daghistani and many others. Iran is also a multi-ethnic state and under authoritarian rule. Iraq is a multi sectarian country and was much stable under Saddam then now. Many more examples can be given where a country was not homogenous and a single party or a single person delivered. In fact not being homogeneous is more suitable for the single party rule than multiple parties.

The real question is why the establishment is supporting the opposition? Is establishment too afraid of USA and an independent foreign policy?

 

[mikkix]

Congratz to shareef and their permanent allied partners. We will have a new PM either chota shareef, bara shareef, nani or munna. Central punjab will decide as they always decided before, rest of others just watch the show.

 

[Chak Bamu]

Impossible. Can you guys not understand that Pakistani society is not like Chinese, Russian or Turkish etc. They are highly cohesive and homogenous. Their cohesive social heirarchy pulls them towards centralized rule under one strong man.

In Pakistan it's quite the opposite. Instead of being a society - which suggests a people who conform to one set of social order Pakistani population is more a large mob.

You get 100 Paks and they will strugle to agree on one thing. Divided by ethnicity, religion, social class, cultures, regions, tribes, clans, biradris etc means for every 100 Paks you will get 50 differant views pulling and conflicting against each other.

If one wins the rest will be dong everything to pull him down by any means possible.Even military leaders have to tread on eggs or lest they get pulled down.

I saw a social experiment how 10 random Japanese quickly ordered themselves into a team and then each person fell in a precise pecking order - then they just got on with the task they were asked to do as a TEAM.

You get 10 random Paks and they will be end up in a conflict long after the time for task has ran out over who will be boss. To put it bluntly Pakistan has too many wannbe chiefs and not enough wanting to Indians.

Such a society will produce exactly the politics you see in Pakistan.

When a population is brought up on unsustainable myths, your words of wisdom will have few takers.

Just enjoy the show sir. This thread is nothing but one giant melt-down of Insafi mind colliding with reality.

 

[POPEYE-Sailor]

When a population is brought up on unsustainable myths, your words of wisdom will have few takers.

Just enjoy the show sir. This thread is nothing but one giant melt-down of Insafi mind colliding with reality.

insafi mind need treatment please suggest them - use this revolutionary service

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Absolutely Not کہا
امریکی لائن سے مکمل ہٹ کر چین کے ساتھ کھل کر چلا

ruled by, kindly do the correction.

 

[hussain0216]

insafi mind need treatment please suggest them - use this revolutionary service

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Treatment for what???? Not wanting the same useless idiots or their children to rule Pakistan over and over again?

Don't you see, we are at the end here, if IK isn't able to end these mafias then they will win and Pakistan will be lost for a generation

 

[Mav3rick]

Impossible. Can you guys not understand that Pakistani society is not like Chinese, Russian or Turkish etc. They are highly cohesive and homogenous. Their cohesive social heirarchy pulls them towards centralized rule under one strong man.

In Pakistan it's quite the opposite. Instead of being a society - which suggests a people who conform to one set of social order Pakistani population is more a large mob.

You get 100 Paks and they will strugle to agree on one thing. Divided by ethnicity, religion, social class, cultures, regions, tribes, clans, biradris etc means for every 100 Paks you will get 50 differant views pulling and conflicting against each other.

If one wins the rest will be dong everything to pull him down by any means possible.Even military leaders have to tread on eggs or lest they get pulled down.

I saw a social experiment how 10 random Japanese quickly ordered themselves into a team and then each person fell in a precise pecking order - then they just got on with the task they were asked to do as a TEAM.

You get 10 random Paks and they will be end up in a conflict long after the time for task has ran out over who will be boss. To put it bluntly Pakistan has too many wannbe chiefs and not enough wanting to Indians.

Such a society will produce exactly the politics you see in Pakistan.

A big, big problem in Pakistan is that we are ready to brand all others insane, unpatriotic, un-Islamic, mullah, religious zealots, bigots etc.; we are never willing to listen to the other's point of view because we all are always right. So people do not support Imran Khan, they must be anti-Pakistan; people don't support PML, they must be anti-Pakistan, people don't support all of the Military's decisions, they must be traitors and so on.

All must learn to live with diverse points of views which are perfectly fine based on individua's own perspectives and situations. I personally blame Imran khan and PTI for the very destitute and critical financial situation of the country based on their many, many mistakes and repeated experiments....hell, Imran Khan handed over reigns of the country's finances to the person who has run his own bank into problems and who has been a part of PPP's corruption but yet Imran Khan is hero to many others and so I must respect their points of views just as they should mine!

When we develop into people who respect others' points of views, we may become a Nation and then we will be united. Fat chance though!!

 

[Chak Bamu]

Treatment for what???? Not wanting the same useless idiots or their children to rule Pakistan over and over again?

Don't you see, we are at the end here, if IK isn't able to end these mafias then they will win and Pakistan will be lost for a generation

You got a vote. Use it.

You got a voice. Use it.

You have an opinion? Vote.

But do not think that everybody ought to think how you think, because you are not perfectly informed, or perfectly logical. Come off your high moral horse, sir. There are serious counter-arguments & I doubt Insafi mind can grapple with them.

 

[Ahmad Saleem]

Treatment for what???? Not wanting the same useless idiots or their children to rule Pakistan over and over again?

Don't you see, we are at the end here, if IK isn't able to end these mafias then they will win and Pakistan will be lost for a generation

Sharif and Zardari apologizers are just too much used too of slavery and eating leftovers. They are the slaves who love their chains.

 

[TNT]

U guys are naive, there has been only one party ruling Pakistan since 70s and they will keep on ruling.

 

[POPEYE-Sailor]

Treatment for what???? Not wanting the same useless idiots or their children to rule Pakistan over and over again?

Don't you see, we are at the end here, if IK isn't able to end these mafias then they will win and Pakistan will be lost for a generation

As we all know that mafia already take over Pakistan whole system and its full with corruption. IK is surrounded by all representative of mafia even if he try to do something, he can not be able to wipe out mafia. MASHALLAH we have strong justice system.
Only honest dictator/leader with help of national Security personals need to do bloodbath of mafia, no talk no case only death punishment. If you familiar with history of other country how they come form darkness into brightness - you know how it can be done and today they are conquering and leading the world.

 

[R2D2]

Military-civilian partnership will get somewhat adjusted. Take it easy.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Just see Rwanda and Singapore and also bangladesh.

Singapore is a effectively a Chinese transplant with a western vibe which has adjusted it's minority Malay and Indians. But at heart it is just another iteration of Chinese centralized authoritarian socio-political frame.

Bangladesh is a state clustered around one ethnic group. Benglas and is highly homogenous.

 

[hussain0216]

U guys are naive, there has been only one party ruling Pakistan since 70s and they will keep on ruling.

You got a vote. Use it.

You got a voice. Use it.

You have an opinion? Vote.

But do not think that everybody ought to think how you think, because you are not perfectly informed, or perfectly logical. Come off your high moral horse, sir. There are serious counter-arguments & I doubt Insafi mind can grapple with them.

That's a ridiculous statement, in what way am I or many here not perfectly informed about decades of bhuttos and sharifs ruling our country?

If they were a disaster the first time they ruled us why do you think they will create miracles the 4th time?

In which sane democracy would this kind of retarded politics be allowed