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For pakistanis only. Are you guys ready to be ruled by zardari n nawaz n their kids.this is your last chance..

Hypothetically what could he be planning? Openly going after those in India responsible for terrorists attack on Pakistani soil? Desecration of democracy via emergency. Followed by a presidential system? What do you all feel.

Our major problem is lack of education. Even the people who got educated still behave the same in the heat of the moment, so intense education and over next 3 generations things can change.
True however we can't wait for 3 generations. We're already facing multiple existential Crisis.
 
The state should Hang these b4stards for treason, how these swine's were allowed to walk free is beyond me..

Only Imran Khan is standing up to these corrupt dynasties, all the patriots are behind him.

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Probably because the state is deeply involved in corruption and all sorts of vice. Honestly, it's a no brainer to eradicate cancer from our country but our security forces can't do anything; to internal or external enemies.
 
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Imran Khan's rule is not defined by any radical steps. I don't expect IK to change his MO now. If anything he will be voted out through vote of no confidence and his complacency will finally have caught up with him.
 
You CANT blame the politicians

Sharifs, bhuttos, and all the rest if the Haram khors are doing this for their own greed and dynasties

That's understandable


The problem is how come so many Pakistani people are such donkeys that
they not only let these animals act like mafia dons but they support them, they follow them, they desperately clamour to bring them back to rule

They are beyond contempt



IKs children are not politicians and will not rule Pakistan, EVER


The sharifs, bhuttos are getting ready with their next generation of haramis to rule us for the next 50 years


And it's not their fault, they are looking after their own families and greed


It's YOU
ITS THE AVERAGE HICK PAKISTANI
who can't wait 5 minutes for change

Who dosent understand one thing about the world

You will bring these haramis back to power for what?????


Do not be mistaken, Pakistani abroad will begin to abandon you if you do not wake up, they are desperate for Pakistan to change but Pakistani people won't let Change happen
 
Standing with Imran Khan, unless he is proven to be corrupt. Nation will stand behind Imran Khan with full support.
This challenge too shall pass and IK would come out stronger! Ameen!
 
Sometimes I wish the democracy in Pakistan would just be abolished.

Set up a one-party system as China has done.

When Pakistan became independent I believe we just had the Muslim League, but the corrupt and landlords did not like it. They made PPP and other regional parties so they become powerful and party heads. now we have 100 parties playing dirty politics and no one bothers about Pakistan. If we had one party then you don't need to make alliance with people from different cities as your all fighting for your local seat but with different parties you make connections with all of Pakistan. They are not parties but mafias.
 
Let's discuss what are some of the great and public friendly policies and actions sure to return with Nawaz/Zardari/Fazlu regime:

Drone attacks, backlash will be delivered in Pakistan
Air corridor for attacks in Afghanistan, backlash will be delivered in Pakistan
Dismantling of any facilitation/subsidy to promote exports
Depletion of Foreign Reserves
Drop in remittances
Dismantling of poor and low income friendly policies like panah gah, sehat card, etc.
Return of jiayalas and neralas in state run institution
Roll back of EEZ's
Roll back of clean renewable and cheap energy projects
Deforestation back on agenda
 
Noora and zardari are corrupt and Ik is an incompetent goof.
Would you rather have the incompetent goof or these corrupt vultures who will eat the ghareeb awam like dead carcass, make a choice.
 
Imran Khan will go because of self inflicted wound. Corrupt Sharif Ltd and ppp/zardari Ltd are a cancer but if IK wants to damage himself (read his policy style has damaged him), then only military establishment can save him.
I shall personally prefer him than snakes and snakelets.

Although a foreigner I have failed to restrict myself!! You have survived Mujib, Bhutto, Indira, Kissinger, Brezhnev etc. , aggravated by brainless Yahya & Co.!!! These faggots are maggots in comparison! Pak Deep State will take care of it Insha'Allah...
IK politics style is rigid. Perseverance and principle is one thing but rigidity is other.
....but yes, only military establishment can save him because his removal will create instability.
 
Impossible. Can you guys not understand that Pakistani society is not like Chinese, Russian or Turkish etc. They are highly cohesive and homogenous. Their cohesive social heirarchy pulls them towards centralized rule under one strong man.

In Pakistan it's quite the opposite. Instead of being a society - which suggests a people who conform to one set of social order Pakistani population is more a large mob.

You get 100 Paks and they will strugle to agree on one thing. Divided by ethnicity, religion, social class, cultures, regions, tribes, clans, biradris etc means for every 100 Paks you will get 50 differant views pulling and conflicting against each other.

If one wins the rest will be dong everything to pull him down by any means possible.Even military leaders have to tread on eggs or lest they get pulled down.

I saw a social experiment how 10 random Japanese quickly ordered themselves into a team and then each person fell in a precise pecking order - then they just got on with the task they were asked to do as a TEAM.

You get 10 random Paks and they will be end up in a conflict long after the time for task has ran out over who will be boss. To put it bluntly Pakistan has too many wannbe chiefs and not enough wanting to Indians.

Such a society will produce exactly the politics you see in Pakistan.

Fantastic post. We had the PML as one party but slowly people with different languages, ethnicities, tribes, castes wanted to be the Kings and they made own small parties. This is exactly what happens at grassroot level, people back the most evil and corrupt person in their families and he then supports the local MNA/MPA, the local MNA then joins a party. If the party takes action against him then he leaves and joins another party, if the local MNA doesn't give contract to loyalist they then will leave him and join another family. In this system only the cunning will rise up. The loyalist only support him because he will look after them. In my area the local MNA gave 2 crore to build road, he had no choice but to give to local follower, he in return ate all the money, what can the MNA do? If he exposes him then the loyalist+ baradari will leave and join opposition. The same with landlords, the MNA will be his loyalist otherwise no chance he will win. If you take action against powerful people they then will threaten rebellion, separatism etc. What can you do when jahil awaam joins them? After all Pakistan is the awaam. MNA also has connections with police, judges and if you don't have their backing, then your rival and enemies will destroy you. Why doesn't the common man/woman have the power through institutes?

Lack of education, ignorance, corruption destroyed the society. The answer is we need to bring back the elite education system which made us strong powerful in our history. Then make the institutes independent and free from politics. I dont see this happening till maybe 2050+.

The only thing we can do is like what we done with our security situation, pakistan made a special body (cannot recall the name) which involves the Army generals, ISI chief, PM, President, cabinet and they discuss security issues. Why not make a strong independent body of Pakistan economic/development/educational Authority which involves top judges, ISI chief, Generals, PM, President, cabinet, CMs, opposition leaders, professionals and discuss long term policies to make Pakistan strong, then move them to the Parliament and pass it. Let the corrupt PM or Judges, opposition leaders explain why they opposing policies which will benefit Pakistan, let them answer to the people, if they say in front of the TV and people that yes we want this to happen then pass it at the council and move it to the Parliament. Let the corrupt parliamentary people know this policy was passed by their own leaders in the council. I am talking about main issues. Like for example why leaders oppose Kalabah dam, let them explain in the council in writing, tell them to give solutions. Why they oppose action against terrorism. Why the judges don't listen to the pending cases? If judges say we have no time then expand the supreme Court, give judges night time but give people the justice. Why leaders oppose more provinces? Let them discuss in the council and pass new policies.

If not we will be at the same position in the next 30 years. Provinces politics, water politics and the list goes on.
 
Fantastic post. We had the PML as one party but slowly people with different languages, ethnicities, tribes, castes wanted to be the Kings and they made own small parties. This is exactly what happens at grassroot level, people back the most evil and corrupt person in their families and he then supports the local MNA/MPA, the local MNA then joins a party. If the party takes action against him then he leaves and joins another party, if the local MNA doesn't give contract to loyalist they then will leave him and join another family. In this system only the cunning will rise up. The loyalist only support him because he will look after them. In my area the local MNA gave 2 crore to build road, he had no choice but to give to local follower, he in return ate all the money, what can the MNA do? If he exposes him then the loyalist+ baradari will leave and join opposition. The same with landlords, the MNA will be his loyalist otherwise no chance he will win. If you take action against powerful people they then will threaten rebellion, separatism etc. What can you do when jahil awaam joins them? After all Pakistan is the awaam. MNA also has connections with police, judges and if you don't have their backing, then your rival and enemies will destroy you. Why doesn't the common man/woman have the power through institutes?

Lack of education, ignorance, corruption destroyed the society. The answer is we need to bring back the elite education system which made us strong powerful in our history. Then make the institutes independent and free from politics. I dont see this happening till maybe 2050+.

The only thing we can do is like what we done with our security situation, pakistan made a special body (cannot recall the name) which involves the Army generals, ISI chief, PM, President, cabinet and they discuss security issues. Why not make a strong independent body of Pakistan economic/development/educational Authority which involves top judges, ISI chief, Generals, PM, President, cabinet, CMs, opposition leaders, professionals and discuss long term policies to make Pakistan strong, then move them to the Parliament and pass it. Let the corrupt PM or Judges, opposition leaders explain why they opposing policies which will benefit Pakistan, let them answer to the people, if they say in front of the TV and people that yes we want this to happen then pass it at the council and move it to the Parliament. Let the corrupt parliamentary people know this policy was passed by their own leaders in the council. I am talking about main issues. Like for example why leaders oppose Kalabah dam, let them explain in the council in writing, tell them to give solutions. Why they oppose action against terrorism. Why the judges don't listen to the pending cases? If judges say we have no time then expand the supreme Court, give judges night time but give people the justice. Why leaders oppose more provinces? Let them discuss in the council and pass new policies.

If not we will be at the same position in the next 30 years. Provinces politics, water politics and the list goes on.
If you look at Japan, one political party dominated their politics since World War 2, which was the Liberal Democratic Party.
Some ask why can't Pakistan become like Japan.

Then somebody said because Japanese are well educated.
 
If you look at Japan, one political party dominated their politics since World War 2, which was the Liberal Democratic Party.
Some ask why can't Pakistan become like Japan.

Then somebody said because Japanese are well educated.

Its true though. If Pakistan had 100% literacy rate, the public would be busy reading, researching and imagine the same public then finds corruption in the institutes, government, police etc, they will not all go crying to the local MNA or Judge but will support those who want to make institutes strong and independent so the common man can get as strong as the MNA. We had electricity blackouts for like 2 decades but why the governments in the 1990s didn't realise that we need small and large dams for the future. Where is the policy, data. The educated society will throw the MNAs in the dustbins.
 
Literacy rate alone is nothing. Our madrassas and universities are churning out degree holders like nothing. But the actual level of understanding what people call "Shaoor" is minimal. Bcz a person can get guidance from different sources. First of all his or her parents who today are too busy and prefer their kids watch tv or youtube. Schools and teachers teach nothing bcz our system is just concerned about marks. Political leaders and religious leaders starting from a counselor or Imam to the top are corrupt. And cherry on the top is this that they are proud of this.
So in this kind of society where deceiving is consider talent if people like Noora and Zardari are leaders then its no surprise.
IK could have done good but people now think he is just the old chooran wrapped in new wrapper. Bcz same old hawks gathered around him and in my opinion beside IK they have done their fair share of looting during last three and a half years.
 

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