Flight MH370: Missteps by China slowed search for missing jet

[qwerrty]

FYI, the author isn't keeping his POV he is actually quoting the statements of Senior Professors from HK Univs and from other Institutions.

still nonsense..

 

[Reviewer21]

still nonsense

Still you bothered to come on this nonsense thread and post.

 

[xunzi]

First of all please talk in a proper manner, and about me knowing that signals were false, FYI i already stated that i am talking on basis of the OP. And in it the professors says so. Not me. And about Australia i already said that was just once, if they again does it then for sure they are also to be blamed.


And my friend the Chinese signals indeed have been investigated. Cause if they weren't investigated how come the search operation slowed down?

Missing Malaysian jet: Planes, ships deployed to investigate Chinese signal - The Times of India

There are many evidences we provided in here that we are not the only one who was wrong in our judgement. I cited Australia as another example and you fucking continue to ignore and defame with nonsense that I find ridiculously annoying. If you don't pay attention to this MH370 missing plane fiasco, then I suggest you shut your mouth and quit blaming us for every fucking little mistake we may or may not have caused. I'm getting very tired that our country always get blame for everything. If this flight did not contain Chinese national, we would have left and go home.

As for evidence of misleading search, I want to remind you in bold of multiple false lead evidence from Australia.

False Leads in Search for Missing Jet
April 14, 2014 (AP)
By The Associated Press


If the signals detected deep in the Indian Ocean are truly from the wreckage from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, they ultimately will close the book on a frustrating long list of false leads in the effort to find the jet. Here are the most prominent moments in which hopes of solving the tragic aviation mystery were dashed:

— March 8: More than an hour after Malaysia Airlines reports the Boeing 777 missing, rumors spread on the Internet that the plane landed safely at an airport in southern China. These quickly turn out to be baseless. Later in the day, search planes spot two long oil slicks in the South China Sea, but tests show the oil was not from an aircraft.

— March 9: Vietnam says a search plane spots objects in the South China Sea suspected to be from the plane, but they turn out to be unrelated. Malaysia's air force chief says there were indications on military radar that the jet may have turned back from its flight path and crossed the Malay peninsula after its communications systems went off. Authorities intensify their search on the western side of the country and in the northern part of the Strait of Malacca.

— March 10: Searchers spot a floating yellow object, spurring speculation it could be a life raft, but it is found to be moss-covered piece of sea trash.

— March 11: News early on that two of the 239 passengers on board used stolen passports fueled speculation of terrorism. Malaysian police determine that the two men were Iranians seeking to migrate illegally to Europe and were not terrorists.

— March 12: A Chinese state agency releases images of three white objects floating in the sea close to the plane's last confirmed position in the South China Sea, but Vietnamese and Malaysian searchers find nothing at the spot. Three days later, Malaysia's prime minister says satellite data show the plane could be anywhere on two huge arcs: a northern one stretching from Thailand up to southern Kazakhstan, and a southern one from the western tip of Indonesia's Java Island to the southern stretches of the Indian Ocean.

— March 19: Australia's prime minister says satellite images show two large objects floating in the southern Indian Ocean. They are never found.

— March 22: A search plane spots a floating wooden pallet that appeared to be surrounded by straps of different lengths and colors, but spotters are unable to photograph it. A New Zealand military aircraft tries to locate the objects for closer inspection, but finds only clumps of seaweed.

— March 23: A French satellite detects 122 floating objects, but search planes are unable to locate them. A day later, Malaysia's prime minister says a new analysis of satellite data shows the plane crashed into the southern Indian Ocean, somewhere west of the city of Perth.

— March 27: A Thai satellite detects about 300 objects floating in the Indian Ocean. They are never verified to be from the plane.

— March 28: The Australian agency coordinating the search shifts the search area about 1,100 kilometers (680 miles) to the northeast after analysis of radar data suggests that the plane flew faster than thought and used up more fuel, thereby reducing the distance it traveled.

— March 30: Malaysia's defense minister says investigations of a flight simulator in the pilot's home, including a check by the FBI, turned up "nothing sinister."

— April 10: An Australian aircraft picks up a possible underwater signal, but it is later found to be unrelated. The false lead comes days after the Ocean Shield, an Australian ship, detected underwater "pings" on two days that were consistent with signals emitted from an aircraft's black boxes.

— April 11: Australia's prime minister says authorities are now confident underwater signals are coming from the missing jet's flight data recorders in an area about 4,500 meters (15,000 feet) deep. He cautions that retrieving them from the ocean floor will be very challenging.

— April 14: With no signals detected for six days amid speculation the black boxes' batteries have expired, a robotic submarine is launched to scan the seafloor for remains of the plane.

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SO WHY EXACTLY Do we get the blame but not Australia, too? Answer the question or shut up.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Looks like India has a military base which can detect the flight if your radar system works well.

I believe the wreckage of the aircraft was found near Australia, correct me if i'm wrong. And if not, then enlighten me how the Indian radars were supposed to detect the aircraft?

 

[Kyle Sun]

I believe the wreckage of the aircraft was found near Australia, correct me if i'm wrong. And if not, then enlighten me how the Indian radars were supposed to detect the aircraft?

The final destination is near Australia.

But MH370 flight near by Andaman sea, India has a Radar base there.

Indian Official said they did not really run the radar system 24 hours cause it cost money.

 

[Skull and Bones]

The final destination is near Australia.

But MH370 flight near by Andaman sea, India has a Radar base there.

Indian Official said they did not really run the radar system 24 hours cause it cost money.

Do you have any proof to validate that claim?

 

[Reviewer21]

There are many evidences we provided in here that we are not the only one who was wrong in our judgement. I cited Australia as another example and you fucking continue to ignore and defame with nonsense that I find ridiculously annoying. If you don't pay attention to this MH370 missing plane fiasco, then I suggest you shut your mouth and quit blaming us for every fucking little mistake we may or may not have caused. I'm getting very tired that our country always get blame for everything. If this flight did not contain Chinese national, we would have left and go home.

Okay i am out of this. You really don't seem to have any knowledge on how to behave or discuss and neither you seem to comprehend any of my post. So Good Bye!

 

[Kyle Sun]

Do you have any proof to validate that claim?

I do not have English source to proof this.

But this is discussed in our CCTV publicly , If we make up this ,Indian Gov should not keep quiet about this

 

[qwerrty]

I believe the wreckage of the aircraft was found near Australia, correct me if i'm wrong. And if not, then enlighten me how the Indian radars were supposed to detect the aircraft?

actually there's no proof that the wreckage is from the plane. they never retrieve it for examination. those white junk seen on satellite images could be anything..

 

[Skull and Bones]

I do not have English source to proof this.

But this is discussed in our CCTV publicly , If we make up this ,Indian Gov should not keep quiet about this

Not much CCTV viewership in India, and what ever you show in CCTV is none of our concern. AFAIK, CCTV does have a english news website, try finding it there. I'm eager to know about it.

 

[Kyle Sun]

Not much CCTV viewership in India, and what ever you show in CCTV is none of our concern. AFAIK, CCTV does have a english news website, try finding it there. I'm eager to know about it.

it is chief of staff of the andaman base, a rear admiral of India navy . His name is 苏迪尔.皮莱 .

I do not know his english name, should be "Sudhir Pillay"　something like that

And an official of India Defense Department said the same thing.

 

[Developereo]

To be honest, I don't have much sympathy for anyone, including the Chinese govt.. on this matter.

Everybody here is quick to blame the Malaysians. Even the Chinese govt. was happy to let the Chinese media and people vent barely concealed racism against Malaysians. Some Chinese media were leading calls for boycott of Malaysian products.

Interestingly, when the investigation focus shifted south and came under Australian leadership, the Chinese shut up. The Chinese govt. distanced itself from the Chinese families. Despite the fact that the Australian PM kept blabbing wrong information, the Chinese did not dare criticize him.

As for the Malaysians, the only thing they can be blamed for is that they didn't immediately reveal the unidentified radar blips tracked by their military. It was only when the northern search failed that they suggested the unidentified blips may have belonged to MH370. The Thais, incidentally, also tracked an identified aircraft but they didn't even volunteer the information for ten days and said it was because nobody asked them.

So, all in all, there is scant information about the plane; lots of people have been speculating, and the irresponsible media kept printing the wildest speculations without the slightest corroboration.

 

[Kyle Sun]

To be honest, I don't have much sympathy for anyone, including the Chinese govt.. on this matter.

Everybody here is quick to blame the Malaysians. Even the Chinese govt. was happy to let the Chinese media and people vent barely concealed racism against Malaysians. Some Chinese media were leading calls for boycott of Malaysian products.

Interestingly, when the investigation focus shifted south and came under Australian leadership, the Chinese shut up. The Chinese govt. distanced itself from the Chinese families. Despite the fact that the Australian PM kept blabbing wrong information, the Chinese did not dare criticize him.

As for the Malaysians, the only thing they can be blamed for is that they didn't immediately reveal the unidentified radar blips tracked by their military. It was only when the northern search failed that they suggested the unidentified blips may have belonged to MH370. The Thais, incidentally, also tracked an identified aircraft but they didn't even volunteer the information for ten days and said it was because nobody asked them.

So, all in all, there is scant information about the plane; lots of people have been speculating, and the irresponsible media kept printing the wildest speculations without the slightest corroboration.

What is the wrong information from Australian PM ?

 

[Developereo]

What is the wrong information from Australian PM ?

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[gambit]

How about the communication record from the flight ?

Do not tell me Malay do not have the record.

That is still a different issue from the one about the initial search area.

Airline flights are routine and MH 370 is no different. In fact, what is known as 'MH 370' is often not even the same aircraft. People have to distinguish the difference between 'flight' and 'aircraft'. They are NOT synonymous. If a particular aircraft is removed from operation for whatever reasons, usually maintenance related, another aircraft will take its place and fly the route known as 'MH 370'. So what this means is that the initial search area as pointed out by Malaysia was dictated by common sense and logic based upon years of operation.

If you think I make this shit up...

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At this current time, Malaysia cannot be blamed for giving out the initial search direction and area. At best, Malaysia can be blamed for delaying disclosure of information that could have led the search efforts to the (now known) correct area. That information were voice and/or radar data.