Flash floods in Saudi kill 16, civil defense says

[BLACKEAGLE]

You call this $hit a mild weather?? We are ******* drowning here. I want the summer and the heat, a thousand times better than this.

That's what happens to the thief. Enjoy..

 

[Mosamania]

That's what happens to the thief. Enjoy..

Close to 36 people have died here, countless others have lost their homes and all their belongings. And you treat it as a ******* joke? . I don't blame you though you didn't see the cars being rolled on the floods like pieces of wood, or people screaming for help on top of them. You didn't see the people die right in front of you.

Yeah sure continue to make jokes.

 

[al-Hasani]

You stole our mild weather, it's supposed to be spring these days, the most beautiful season as it used to be, but rather it directly turned from winter to Summer this time, it's freaking hot these days.

My friend was the weather in Jordan not very cold for the season 2-3 weeks ago?

You call this $hit a mild weather?? We are ******* drowning here. I want the summer and the heat, a thousand times better than this.

It will quickly get better, Insha'Allah. The weather in Ta'if is good all year long nearly. Neither to cold nor to warm.

There is always Makkah if you want summer all year long. Or better, Jeddah.

Moreover there is always the Empty Quarter for the extreme ones.

Close to 36 people have died here, countless others have lost their homes and all their belongings. And you treat it as a ******* joke? . I don't blame you though you didn't see the cars being rolled on the floods like pieces of wood, or people screaming for help on top of them. You didn't see the people die right in front of you.

Yeah sure continue to make jokes.

Mosab, I think that you misunderstood Blackeagle. I do not think that he would ever make fun of such a tragic event.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Close to 36 people have died here, countless others have lost their homes and all their belongings. And you treat it as a ******* joke? . I don't blame you though you didn't see the cars being rolled on the floods like pieces of wood, or people screaming for help on top of them. You didn't see the people die right in front of you.

Yeah sure continue to make jokes.

I feel more of angry at the Saudi gov, they have the money, so the least they could have done is to build an efficient drainage system, noting that this is the maybe the 5th time in arrow. It's not my country, but this is outrageous to be honest with you even to outsiders.

My friend was the weather in Jordan not very cold for the season 2-3 weeks ago?

It rained heavily a week ago for 3 days in arrow after one month of hot and dry weather, it's now even hotter. It isn't used to be like this. When I was a child, it used to be really cold and rain continually for weeks, and we rarely see the sun, but now it's very different.

 

[al-Hasani]

It rained heavily a week ago for 3 days in arrow after one month of hot and dry weather, it's now even hotter. It isn't used to be like this. When I was a child, it used to be really cold and rain continually for weeks, and we rarely see the sun, but now it's very different.

Aha, but I guess this depends on the location in Jordan (even more so with KSA due to it being much bigger and diverse in terms of climates and differences in temperature)? Because I remember whenever seeing the weather forecast that it was fairly cold in Jordan (also Syria) for the season not long ago.

Yes, the climate is definitely getting more extreme for each year. No doubt.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Aha, but I guess this depends on the location in Jordan (even more so with KSA due to it being much bigger and diverse in terms of climates and differences in temperature)? Because I remember whenever seeing the weather forecast that it was fairly cold in Jordan (also Syria) for the season not long ago.

Yes, the climate is definitely getting more extreme for each year. No doubt.

It's 29 degrees here today, but this is hot for us, I forgot, off course it's cold for you , you have 40-50 degrees, I would die with these degrees.

 

[al-Hasani]

It's 29 degrees here today, but this is hot for us, I forgot, off course it's cold for you , you have 40-50 degrees, I would die with these degrees.

That's warm/hot as well. KSA is like a continent on its own in terms of diversity. You can have 15-18 degrees in the North and 40-45 in the Empty Quarter the same day.

40-50 degrees is extremely hot in KSA. Such temperatures are limited to a few places and only during summer.

But once again this depends on the region since the country is huge. Aspects such as humidity, wind, altitude etc. also play a role.

The warmest temperature ever recorded in KSA was 52 degrees in Jeddah during the summer of 2010.

I personally like the weather in the majority of KSA all year long though, so I am not complaining. There is something for everybody depending on their preference.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Yes, apparently for a few more days.

Regarding the snowfall and weather in Ta'if yesterday.

http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/saudi-t...1575;لسيول.html

http://www.alarabiya.net/ar/saudi-t...605;فاجآت-.html

Extreme video of the water flow.

Those are huge snow particles here we call it a hailstorm not mild snow

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The sewer is a very important part of the infrastructure, and hopefully KSA could quickly recover from this loss.

 

[al-Hasani]

The sewer is a very important part of the infrastructure, and hopefully KSA could quickly recover from this loss.

See these two posts below that I wrote for more information.

It is indeed a problem of infrastructure. The weather is getting more and more extreme each year be it winter or summer. More extreme rainfalls also seem to be the norm in the future.

It is not more than a month ago that it snowed in Ta'if in Hejaz although the city is located at a elevation of nearly 2000 meters.

Geography also plays a role. Flooding is mostly a bigger problem if it occurs in the mountains or valleys since the rainfall will impact the lower lying cities.

The majority of cities do not have a drainage system, which means that heavy thunderstorms often cause flooding in built-up areas. Also wadis can be dangerous. It may be sunny on the coast, but pouring in the mountains and the wadis can become a raging torrent in a matter of minutes, with little or no warning for those on the coast. This is what exactly happened back in 2009 in Jeddah where the rainfall from the Hejazi mountains swept across Jeddah which lies at sea level next to the Red Sea.

There are dams in the South already and in the mountain areas and I believe there are projects of constructing some in Hejaz as well.

But the problem is that this happens a few times a year and the rest of the time this is forgotten. It should be solved once and for all IMO.

Yes, this is very correct. I believe that there are already over 250 dams in KSA, mostly in the Western, Southern and mountainous regions of KSA.

It is necessary and should be obligatory. I believe that, after another flooding, that this issue will be dealt with accordingly.

A proper drainage system in the villages as well although that will take a long time/be difficult due to the geography. But the main cities should all have it.

 

[Dubious]

You can't do much about it . In those area soil don't have the capscity to absorb water fast and a little rain is enough to make a flood.

@JEskandari hence a proper drainage system....Soils around the globe are not the same...But if there is frequent flooding, human have what we call drainage system fit for that topography or based on the soil

 

[Hack-Hook]

@JEskandari hence a proper drainage system....Soils around the globe are not the same...But if there is frequent flooding, human have what we call drainage system fit for that topography or based on the soil

well it depend on the situation . its practical to made such system in cities and to some extent to the villages but what about people who live in desert ? are you gonna to made such system in all of the mountain and deserts of KSA ?

and contrary to peoples beliefs KSA may be a wealthy country bt like anybody else their resources are limited , they can only spend to some extent on each project.

 

[al-Hasani]

well it depend on the situation . its practical to made such system in cities and to some extent to the villages but what about people who live in desert ? are you gonna to made such system in all of the mountain and deserts of KSA ?

and contrary to peoples beliefs KSA may be a wealthy country bt like anybody else their resources are limited , they can only spend to some extent on each project.

Exactly. It is extremely difficult to built it all over the country. This cannot happen with countries that are as big as KSA. Neither with India, USA (even them), China, Brazil, Mexico, Argentina and other very big countries in the Middle East and outside of it.

The mountain areas are of a very big size in total. To make drainage systems in every single village would take A LOT of time and a lot of cost. There are already over 250 dams in KSA, especially in the Western, Southern and mountainous parts of the country and more are getting built.

The deserts in KSA are not flat but all largely hilly or even have mountainous landscape. Even the Empty Quarter has large sand dunes. The Empty Quarter is the only true sand desert but nobody lives there apart from a tiny population of Bedouins. There are no roads there either or villages. The remaining "desert areas" all have hilly, mountainous landscapes and have often volcanic soils and hundreds of villages and oasis. Flooding there is not a problem unless the village is situated near mountains/hills that could move heavy rainfall downwards and create flooding.

Villages as seen below are often situated on the hills rather than in valleys exactly due to the fear of flooding which has been known to occur since ancient times.

As seen in Ha'il which is in Northwestern KSA and has a altitude of over 1000 m. It was impacted exactly by that and all surrounding villages.

So what must be done and be obligatory is to make drainage systems in all major cities. This is affordable and in a country of KSA wealth and infrastructure it should have been done much earlier.

The weather is only going to get more extreme in the Middle East so the infrastructure should reflect that everywhere.

 

[Dubious]

well it depend on the situation . its practical to made such system in cities and to some extent to the villages but what about people who live in desert ? are you gonna to made such system in all of the mountain and deserts of KSA ?

and contrary to peoples beliefs KSA may be a wealthy country bt like anybody else their resources are limited , they can only spend to some extent on each project.

@JEskandari I do not understand why you people are negative....It can happen but yes it is not cheap...Swizerland, N. Italy, Austria and many such countries are literally surrounded by mountains....Norway is another 1...I am not sure why you can not learn the technology?!

 

[Hack-Hook]

@<u><a href="http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=136435" target="_blank">JEskandari</a></u> I do not understand why you people are negative....It can happen but yes it is not cheap...Swizerland, N. Italy, Austria and many such countries are literally surrounded by mountains....Norway is another 1...I am not sure why you can not learn the technology?!

BBC NEWS | Europe | Floods sweep across Switzerland

BBC News - Man killed in Austrian mudslides

BBC News - Italy floods: Tuscany and Umbria take brunt of rain

Norway

God it make me want to challenge people when they saying in Europe and USA everything is rosy and we must be just like them