Fix the Link to Pakistan, Bond With India

[I.R.A]

Maybe I m just being rational

Then what can I say your rationality knows no bounds. Keep being rational.

 

[13 komaun]

Maybe I m just being rational

I was not pointing towards you ,sorry if you felt that way.

 

[45'22']

Then what can I say your rationality knows no bounds. Keep being rational.

Or maybe u should see it from a different perspective
it's not that a big thing u know

 

[Razia Sultana]

China didn't split up Pakistan into 2 nations, Pakistan and Bangedash, India is the primary threat to Pakistan in the region which both country fought countless wars after independent from British. China need Pakistan as much Pakistan need China to effectively counter India influence, Pakistan as a Muslim nation and strategic location can help China build the gap with the connectivity through South Asia and Central Asia. Time tested ally not easy to come by.

China did not split up Pakistan but they made you cede Shaksgam Valley to them. Since you never owned up Kashmir, you did not mind ceding the territory to them. Where was your time tested friend when someone was splitting up your nation into two?

 

[I.R.A]

Or maybe u should see it from a different perspective
it's not that a big thing u know

Like?

 

[Steakhouse]

I don't see how Pakistan

Nowhere in my post i say china gives free weapon to Pakistan besides Pakistan has a decent military budget.

China did not split up Pakistan but they made you cede Shaksgam Valley to them. Since you never owned up Kashmir, you did not mind ceding the territory to them. Where was your time tested friend when someone was splitting up your nation into two?

At that time China not in the position to fight a war for Pakistan inside Bangadash, not like China was a military superpower in 1972. Pakistan if they willing cede territory to China, what India right to bemoan about. Not like China capture Pakistan territory by force.

 

[Razia Sultana]

I don't see how Pakistan






At that time China not in the position to fight a war for Pakistan inside Bangadash, not like China was a military superpower in 1972. Pakistan if they willing cede territory to China, what India right to bemoan about. Not like China capture Pakistan territory by force.

Yes, we have a right to talk about that because it was our territory in your illegal occupation that you ceded to china. No one cedes an inch of his territory if he feels its his.

 

[Steakhouse]

Yes, we have a right to talk about that because it was our territory in your illegal occupation that you ceded to china. No one cedes an inch of his territory if he feels its his.

How can it be your if you have no control of it?

 

[Razia Sultana]

How can it be your if you have no control of it?

Steal a thing from someone and tell him since its not in your possession, its not yours. In India we say "haram ki amadni haram me kharch hoti hai". thats what you did with our Shaksgam Valley.

 

[Steakhouse]

Steal a thing from someone and tell him since its not in your possession, its not yours. In India we say "haram ki amadni haram me kharch hoti hai". thats what you did with our Shaksgam Valley.

How did Pakistan stole the territory under China control?

 

[Razia Sultana]

How did Pakistan stole the territory under China control?

Dont you know in 1963 pakistan handed over control of shaksgam valley of J&K to china? No wonder you have been sounding like an uneducated. lets top it now.

 

[Steakhouse]

Dont you know in 1963 pakistan handed over control of shaksgam valley of J&K to china? No wonder you have been sounding like an uneducated. lets top it now.

Since China control the territory what it have to do with Pakistan?

 

[I.R.A]

Steal a thing from someone and tell him since its not in your possession, its not yours. In India we say "haram ki amadni haram me kharch hoti hai". thats what you did with our Shaksgam Valley.

The occupation of these valleys came in the wake of Pakistan and China forming a strategic alliance, which enabled both countries to counter their economic and political adversaries.

As part of the frontier settlement plan, both nations, represented by Pakistani Foreign Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Chinese Foreign Minister Chen Yi, signed a provisional agreement on March 2, 1963 in Beijing allowing China to occupy Shaksgam, Raskam, Shimshal and Aghil valleys of the disputed territory of Gilgit-Baltistan.

As part of the deal,

“the two parties agreed that after the settlement of the Kashmir dispute between Pakistan and India, the sovereign authority concerned will reopen negotiations with the government of the peoples’ republic of China on the boundary, as described in Article II of the present agreement of Kashmir, so as to sign a boundary treaty to replace the present agreement.”

India protested the matter with China, and registered its concerns with the United Nations. The Chinese authorities guaranteed India that it accepted Gilgit-Baltistan as a disputed territory and that the agreement was only provisional in nature and would be renegotiated once the dispute of Jammu & Kashmir was resolved.


If you are so concerned settle the Kashmir dispute, let the people of Kashmir decide their fate.

 

[13 komaun]

I don't see how Pakistan






At that time China not in the position to fight a war for Pakistan inside Bangadash, not like China was a military superpower in 1972. Pakistan if they willing cede territory to China, what India right to bemoan about. Not like China capture Pakistan territory by force.

china is not a military power even now and i don't think they afford a war with India bcz of Pakistan

 

[Marwari]

The occupation of these valleys came in the wake of Pakistan and China forming a strategic alliance, which enabled both countries to counter their economic and political adversaries.

As part of the frontier settlement plan, both nations, represented by Pakistani Foreign Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Chinese Foreign Minister Chen Yi, signed a provisional agreement on March 2, 1963 in Beijing allowing China to occupy Shaksgam, Raskam, Shimshal and Aghil valleys of the disputed territory of Gilgit-Baltistan.

As part of the deal,

“the two parties agreed that after the settlement of the Kashmir dispute between Pakistan and India, the sovereign authority concerned will reopen negotiations with the government of the peoples’ republic of China on the boundary, as described in Article II of the present agreement of Kashmir, so as to sign a boundary treaty to replace the present agreement.”

India protested the matter with China, and registered its concerns with the United Nations. The Chinese authorities guaranteed India that it accepted Gilgit-Baltistan as a disputed territory and that the agreement was only provisional in nature and would be renegotiated once the dispute of Jammu & Kashmir was resolved.


If you are so concerned settle the Kashmir dispute, let the people of Kashmir decide their fate.

How can you give part of Kashmir away on a silver platter and then ask to solve the dispute? What was bilateral before the give away of Shaksgam Valley, is now a trilateral dispute between India, pakistan and China.