First Battle of Rajasthan - Where Arab lost to Indians.

[Kompromat]

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[KS]

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You can refute the above with any source you wish.

The Arabs were a flop as far as India is concerned and even the Caliph gave up hope for conquering India..it was the Turks who were sucessfull in conquering a significant part of India.

 

[IND151]

They get confused with the arrival of Islam to the Indian Subcontinent with Islamic rule

I suspect same

 

[Tridibans]

Well the original book has many sources, even some arabic historical sources. Let me find ttem....

@Aeronaut, here is the link to the book "History of ancient India Earliest times"... scroll down to pages 140 onwards....

http://books.google.co.in/books?id=cWmsQQ2smXIC&pg=PA207&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[SwatCat]

*VERY credible source
*Feel good wikipedia EDIT's all sources are Indian therefore HIGHLY trustworthy.

Keep feeling good.

Here is a another source mate,

First Battle of Rajasthan – Gurjara Pratihara King Nagabhata I against Junaid of Umayyad Arab Dynasty – 738 AD


Battle of Rajasthan - Crossword.in

Indian Cavalry which fought against Arabs is rated as the best.

 

[Don Jaguar]

History says your Hero Mohammad-bin-Qasim got defeated in India, 1000 years is wrong, only empire which stood firmly is Mughal empire that too starting from 1526 to 1700's, before Maratha empire.

You forgot about delhi sultanate?

Map of Tughlaq dynasty during 1351.

 

[SwatCat]

You forgot about delhi sultanate?

Map of Tughlaq dynasty during 1351.

Yes Delhi Sultanate is a strong empire.

 

[nithin]

It is totally silly people fighting for their religion here...

the only constant in this universe is change.. everything good and beautiful is meant to end. PERIOD !!

So, be it hinduism or islam everything is gonna end. OFC !! The one entity which is open to change has higher probability to last longer.

Some religion claiming to complete and comprehensive sounds utter BS. Such cr@p logic only breeds nut-jobs who professes world was way better 1000 year ago and term anything which they don't like as har@m at the drop of a hat with some twisted logic..

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

apart from bharatvarsha ,the words actually used by ancient texts to refer to india as a whole is aryabarta,uttarapatha[north india] and dakshinapatha[south india].

Again decisive difference between arabs and turko mongols were the presence of massed skilled horse archers,a decisive military advantage before gunpowder.

 

[bronxbull]

Just the very fact that Arabs crossed entire Arabian peninsula, crossed the mountainous plains, and attacked the huge Indian landmass in 7th century is just astonishing.

Historically, "Islamic Civilization" (as people call it) has maintained the best success ratio among ALL human civilizations of humanity's recorded history. Quite impressive. "Mashallah" for that...

But this doesn't change the very fact of nature that is written in my signature...

I see it in a different way,i believe that people who live in worse natural conditions always have a rough lifestyle and thus want to fight and conquer and have a good life but Indians a civilization much ahead of the Arabs were chilling out as their fighting times were long over and now are just ersting easy.

So,it was a perfect deal and u r wrong,they did not cross any peninsula.

They came across the persian gulf and entered sindh.

There are many other stories as well about the infighting,the issues in Sindh,Raja Dahir's issues and so on.

Nonetheless They got beaten again in the Battle of Rajasthan mentioned here.

 

[bronxbull]

False information!

A confused nation, who dosn't know.. what they shall call them self.

Hindustan was name given by the central Asians, once they occupied various tiny states of the region.

India was name given by British.

Bharat is a fictional state, in hinduism.

After partition... India name is no more valid.

Actually, after partition, popular hindu leaders use to call it Hindustan.. but it is fashionable to be addressed by the title given by masters.

Now we can well imagine, what would become of history if current population of this India starts to re-write History.

My advise... find a name for your state first... other wise if you loose it to Zaid Hamid.. there will be conflict to record your defeat... we may very well call it simple Hind.

How is your post relevant when we have what u want?

We have the valley and all your rivers,so once u sort that out,we can decide what to call ourselves?

The important events here are Bin Qasim's victory and then the defeat in battle of Rajasthan.

Then comes the mahmud Ghazni in the 11th Century and his victories by which he came up until the western banks of the Indus and that is followed by Ghori doing his raids from Samarkand onto finally defeating Prithviraj Chauhan in 1206.

So,we can say that the real period of domination or the muslim rule is from 1206-aurangazeb's death in 1707.

That marks 500 years.

Alexander doesn't even come close! All his fairy tales aren't historically verifiable. His conquests left little or no mark in history.

Romans are a contender, but eventually they themselves fell to Islamic Power between 7th to 14th century....

Arabs didn't restore their authority when in trouble? This is particularly wrong. Actually, Arabs faced this dilemma right after the death of the Prophet.

Islam remained global dominant force for 1100+ years out of its total history of 1400 years!! This ratio is exceptional. It means that "Muslims", if you wanna call it, remained a global dominant force, in one form or the other, for about 71.3% of their entire history! No ideology/civilization even comes slightly close to this success ratio.

Lets say Rome after birth of Christ...It took 300 years for Christianity to gain hold..and then in next three hundred years, the Empire lost its power already. This followed 1000 years of "dark ages" before Europe (Rome if you wanna call it) came back again.

This will make it as 600/2000 years of global dominant/influential force....a mere 30% of Christendom's total history.

So you see what I'm talking about?

Islamic World is in "dark ages", if we must say, for last 200-300 years..but the astonishing fact is that Islam is a complete, comprehensive ideology. If it went down "politically", the "religious" aspect of Islam kept on growing and gaining more global influence..Now, "Muslims" are already coming back! They have starting to make some progress in science and tech, society, revolutions against monarchs, rise of Political aspect of Islam etc..

History of humankind has never seen an ideology as strong, consistent, and influential as Islam. Muslims can have "Mashallah" to this...

But Islam operates in the realm of reality and human nature..and if Muslims don't correct their path...then *read my signature*

Most of what you claim today is due to the Ottomans alone.

Even today the most dominant countries of the world and non muslim,

whether it is The christian countries of the world or Russia/China/India/Brazil or whatever.

Turkey/Saudi Arabia/Iran/Indonesia fill up.

You lost India,Yugoslavia,Greece.

 

[bronxbull]

Well "Christians of the West" obviously has contributed most to the human civilization....BUT...in the last 300 years or so (after industrialization)...I was talking about "over-all" human history and success ratio of human civilizations...

And not necessarily, Islam will only fall IF Muslims keep acting like baffoons!

Fall of Islam, if it ever happened, will mark the end of era of religion in human civilization. As I already said, Islam is THE most strongest/most consistent ideological force humankind has ever seen...to have it go down, something drastic in history would have to happen.

Just a hint : Islam adds~ 24,000,000 new followers to its bag every year....

I have no problem with Islam, but with some retarded Muslims who are still stuck in 7th century...

What matters is who finish first in the end,

some percentage is no good.

 

[Teeta]

What matters is who finish first in the end,

some percentage is no good.

lol..what are you talking about? "Who finishes first"? Where is the "finishing line"? Child.

Most of what you claim today is due to the Ottomans alone.

Even today the most dominant countries of the world and non muslim,

whether it is The christian countries of the world or Russia/China/India/Brazil or whatever.

Turkey/Saudi Arabia/Iran/Indonesia fill up.

What are you talking about?

Ottoman Empire was one of the many great Islamic Empires..You take the name of Ottoman because you are not well read, and since Ottoman was the first "modern" super power, you only utter its name.

Today's "dominant" countries are all secular Western countries (with china rising)...India/Brazil are a joke. They don't stand anywhere as of now.

Turks are more "dominant" than indians/brazilians combined even today (This word dominant is a wrong word to use though)...

You lost India,Yugoslavia,Greece.

United States never invaded/conquered these lands.

 

[somebozo]

Pakistani's take pride in a loser foreign invader.

Dividing this force into two he plundered several cities in southern Rajasthan, western Malwa, and Gujarat.

Some still think they came in peace to spread Islam and liberate the oppressed!

 

[bronxbull]

lol..what are you talking about? "Who finishes first"? Where is the "finishing line"? Child.



What are you talking about?

Ottoman Empire was one of the many great Islamic Empires..You take the name of Ottoman because you are not well read, and since Ottoman was the first "modern" super power, you only utter its name.

Today's "dominant" countries are all secular Western countries (with china rising)...India/Brazil are a joke. They don't stand anywhere as of now.

Turks are more "dominant" than indians/brazilians combined even today (This word dominant is a wrong word to use though)...



United States never invaded/conquered these lands.

Hardly,thats just a figment of your imagination.

Their power comes from being in a oil/gas resource rich area and thus they become more significant in geopolitics.

I am talking about the Ottoman's because they survived till the first world war,the longest of all monarchies.

They truly deserve to be called the dominant power because they took the fight to Europe and even dominated Yugoslavia,Greece and took Constantinople from the Romans and they are here even today.

This reminds me of how Pakistanis claim,how they once ruled Spain and the Arabs mocking them saying,when did u ever do so?

India and Brazil are here to stay for good and they are the new age powers and once this hoopla of oil/gas story ends we ll just have the number game to play and we ll see how it goes.

Turkey is nothing in front of India/Brazil.

They are begging for an EU spot for a longtime and still are not in.

They don't want to be with u,history leeches.For them u r just a brownie,not Turkic and hell not even Kurd.

US never conquered those lands but the Ottomans lost all that land,

and no prizes for guessing who lost India.

Your claim of the biggest kabzaa of all time just didn't happen.