Firing at a Gurudwara in US, several people shot

[KingMamba]

Agreed, but make guns easily available. You can see the difference. I am not taking without any basis. I have studied the social crimes and effect of population, income, availability of guns and the new technologies introduced to control the situation. The case studies are from research papers on US crime statistics in international journals.

Also, read about behavior pattern and psyche of a criminal. You will get my point.

Then you have no reason to worry brother because they are not easily available.

 

[karan21]

Sad..
the level of human dignity NOT showing in that statement.
JUST plain.. pathetic.

Jk- just kidding.

 

[KingMamba]

I dont know what to do. I went to a white high school and that time i had a a long beard. Many thought i was a muslim. They shoud be thought the different, i guess in the religion course in high school they should be tought the difference in muslims and sikhs. So that they can kill the right person atleast.

My God, wow just wow.

 

[KRAIT]

ScienceDirect.com - Preventive Medicine - State background checks for gun purchase and firearm deaths: An exploratory study

ScienceDirect.com - Social Science & Medicine - Social capital, income inequality, and firearm violent crime

Here are few articles in journals based on data collected in US. I am not saying you are wrong. All I am saying there are many factors for crime. And availability of guns is a major one. But it doesn't mean gun restrictions can bring down the crime to very low level. It would have impact but not that much as people are suggesting.

In first research paper link, you can see other factors like mental illness, restraining orders, fugitives status and misdemeanors.

It does not appear that reductions in firearm deaths are offset by increases in non-firearm violent deaths.

Kindly go through it.

 

[karan21]

My God, wow just wow.

I edited it. all right now chill.

 

[Al-zakir]

Just saw the news in Ch 4. RIP to dead. Not much about the gunman and motive behind the killing. We will have to wait little longer to uncover the killer agendas.

 

[KingMamba]

Jk- just kidding.

No... you were not and you know it too.

I edited it. all right now chill.

Whatever man.

 

[Desert Fox]

So nobody kills people with knives or their bare hands anymore because they all have access to guns?



Agreed and yes I have heard of that part of Queens but I have lived in Brooklyn my whole life. Brooklynites are known for being gangsters and thugs and it is obvious if you tell someone from out of state you are from Brooklyn just by their reaction.

Try Brownsville, Sunset Park, East New York, Bedstuy, Flatbush, heck even Coney Island.

Between Brooklyn and Compton it is pretty much a toss up for gang capital of the country.

Yeah, i've lived in Sunset park Brooklyn as well, but lived in Jamaica Queens for a long while (12-13 years) and moved out a couple of years ago. Right around the time we moved out, my sisters friend while coming home from college witnessed a guy getting gutted by two black males dressed in hoodies. Once i was walking home from the playground and a car slowed down on the other side of the street where two black guys were walking and all of a sudden you here gat gat!! and the car speeds off out of sight, fortunately they missed their targets. Another instance, it was at night when everyone in the house was asleep, 4 gun shots went off and i rolled off my bed because of their danger of a stray bullet penetrating the walls.

 

[KingMamba]

ScienceDirect.com - Preventive Medicine - State background checks for gun purchase and firearm deaths: An exploratory study

ScienceDirect.com - Social Science & Medicine - Social capital, income inequality, and firearm violent crime

Here are few articles in journals based on data collected in US. I am not saying you are wrong. All I am saying there are many factors for crime. And availability of guns is a major one. But it doesn't mean gun restrictions can bring down the crime to very low level. It would have impact but not that much as people are suggesting.

Krait I can see where you are coming from with all this but you have to understand that in the US at least the 2nd amendment is here to stay. The challenge is how to reduce crime without infringing upon the rights of the people.

 

[karan21]

No... you were not and you know it too.



Whatever man.

kk a bad joke, but u know what right now i am studying with a muslim guy in a library in waterloo. Do you think i want my frind to be killed or any muslim to be killed. No i dont.

 

[KRAIT]

Krait I can see where you are coming from with all this but you have to understand that in the US at least the 2nd amendment is here to stay. The challenge is how to reduce crime without infringing upon the rights of the people.

Agreed. That's why the people are now trying to understand the new technologies being introduced to reduce crimes. But these technologies certainly breach your privacy. The efficiency and dark side of these technologies are studied comprehensively and what steps should be taken.

Also, what type of information, videos, print media, should the current and next generation be exposed of. Censorship is a two edged sword.

I won't be surprised if this nutcase who attacked these people watched too much violent movies and violent stuffs available on Youtube.

 

[KingMamba]

Yeah, i've lived in Sunset park Brooklyn as well, but lived in Jamaica Queens for a long while (12-13 years) and moved out a couple of years ago. Right around the time we moved out, my sisters friend while coming home from college witnessed a guy getting gutted by two black males dressed in hoodies. Once i was walking home from the playground and a car slowed down on the other side of the street where two black guys were walking and all of a sudden you here gat gat!! and the car speeds off out of sight, fortunately they missed their targets. Another instance, it was at night when everyone in the house was asleep, 4 gun shots went off and i rolled off my bed because of their danger of a stray bullet penetrating the walls.

Yaar I have so many of these stories I do not even know where to start. I forgot to list the Marlboro projects, when my aunts first came from Pakistan they rented a house there and heard gunshot every other night. One time I was at a party in sunset park and some drunk Hispanic put a .45 on my head for the heck of it (my friend knew him though so he calmed him down, we are friends now ). One of my friends who I grew up with since elementary school is currently in jail for gutting some kid who was in a rival gang. Some of my black friends in Brownsville tell me how they can't even take out their electronics on their way to school without getting mugged. One of my other friend got shot at in a park just because he was supposedly in their "turf". Then lets not even start with the stupid Pakistani kids who try to emulate these "gangsters" and start up their own stupid sh*t. The ironic thing is then they fight fellow Pakistanis it really is ridiculous.

kk a bad joke, but u know what right now i am studying with a muslim guy in a library in waterloo. Do you think i want my frind to be killed or any muslim to be killed. No i dont.

Okay man I will give you the benefit of doubt. No hard feelings.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

update

the Police Chief John Edwards has termed it

"DOMESTIC TERRORIST ACT"

FBI is going to take over the criminal investigation. still no further details about the identity and motives of the gunman. they are certain now that it was a lone gunman.

I will go along the "mistaken Identity" as speculation about the motives as suggested by our fellow members. it doesnt mean that it would have been ok if it was Muslims. well it would have been ok for American media because they would blame it on AL Qaeda.,

till today, on the eve of day when Pearl Harbour attack took place, people with oriental features are attacked throughout America by the God fearing true American patriots so this also could have been an attack on Muslims gone wrong

like I mentioned earlier, (about thinking & mentality of racists that) they all look the same so what the hell. in UK the fascists only went as far as throwing a pigs head at a proposed mosque site and I know some members had a giggle about it but today's incident had tragic consequences.


The chief goes further saying that he cant give any details about the suspect and explains what he means by domestic terrorist act as something that has been perpetrated within the confines of United states and has no link to a foreign country or organisation.

 

[Karachiite]

I like how some people are saying they were probably mistaken for Muslims. So if the shooter attacked a mosque, it would be perfectly ok?

 

[KRAIT]

^ That's what I am talking about sir, the prejudice and paranoia. Authorities are not giving entire information to avoid any backlash.