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Financial terrorism committed by the Govt-Military duos

I personally blame the Martians.

Whowuddathunk that accepting responsibility squarely where it lies is the first step to rectifying the problem?! If we blame others, we don't have to solve anything. Brilliant! :D
Its like taking a loan and blowing it all up on hookers and cocaine and later complaining about the bank being responsible for your miseries
 
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NOTE: This article includes suggestions about dealing in interest bearing instruments. Interest is Haram in Islam and the author abides by this Islamic teaching. Unfortunately, a discussion on the problems of Pakistan's interest based economy necessarily needs to include interest based solutions. The discussion on how to convert the economy to a non-interest one is out of the scope of this article, and beyond the capabilities of this author. More knowledgeable people and actual religious scholars are encouraged to inform everyone on this very important topic.

I have on many occasions criticized the Bajwa-Khan duopoly that has ensnared Pakistan within its heinous tentacles. I have maintained that this regime is taking Pakistan towards complete Western takeover and eventual secession into multiple independent countries. One important component of this heinous crime is financial subjugation of Pakistan. I feel the BKT (Bajwa-Khan Traitorship) has shown its true nature by perpetrating terrorist policies, and the time is now ripe to bare these policies in front of Pakistan.

First let us review the high level roadmap of BKT's malicious plan:

1. Circa April 2019 - Imran Khan accepts the existence of terrorists in Pakistan during visit to Iran, thus going against Gen Raheel's policy to deny the existence of terrorists within Pakistan. https://www.dawn.com/news/1477837

2. Circa May 2019 - Influence China to stop blocking the declaration of Maulana Masood Azhar as a global terrorist. https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/465278-un-to-declare-masood-azhar-a-global-terrorist-today

3. Circa June 2019 - Pakistan is put into the FATF gray list. https://www.dawn.com/news/1418143

So far, everyone can understand the anti-Pakistan machinations of these traitors. In this article, we shall discuss at length the more obscure parts of this plan:

4. Circa June 2019 - Pakistan agrees to IMF conditions that go against its national interests. The relevant program can be accessed here: https://www.imf.org/en/Publications...he-Extended-Fund-Facility-Press-Release-47092

5. Under the IMF program, a huge focus is given to increasing government revenue through tax collection. This has been a multi-year odyssey of the PTI government.

6. Under the IMF program, key financial positions are given to IMF agents. The Governor State Bank Raza Baqir, FBR Chairman Shabbar Zaidi, and Adviser later to be Finance Minister Hafeez Shaikh have all served in IMF or World Bank.

7. A superfluous strengthening of the Rupee is seen which is followed by a sudden drop.

8. A superfluous improvement in Current Account Deficit is seen which is followed by a sharp increase.

9. The agenda of privatizing key government entities is pushed.

10. No attention to flight/loss of capital in the name of 'exports'.

All the while, no one amongst Pakistan's intelligentsia and political elite has the motivation or capability to speak truthfully about the country's troubles and how to fix them. This gives a free hand to BKT to shamelessly tout their treason as economic growth and improvement.

In what follows, I will first explain the real problem being faced by Pakistan, and the actual solutions needed to fix them. It will be abundantly clear how BKT's policies amount to financial terrorism.

Dollars - Pakistan's biggest problem

Pakistan's biggest problem today is the dollar denominated debt that needs to be paid to the tune of approximately 10 billion dollars every year. Any sensible person would argue that Pakistan needs to generate dollars to pay back this debt. Instead, under IMF dictation, the sole focus is on revenue collection in Rupees. These need to be converted into dollars, thus weakening the rupee even further just by paying back debt. The practical outcome of this insidious policy is the strengthening of PKR when debt was temporarily suspended due to COVID. As soon as the COVID crises ended, the PKR lost that strength. This is exactly the IMF plan to keep a country forever indebted: by focusing on revenue collection in the vernacular currency, subjecting the country to exchange rate shocks when it is converted into dollars on the international market.

Instead of highlighting this fundamental problem and discussing solutions for it, BKT has built and controlled a false narrative around CAD (Current Account Deficit) and revenue generation.

So this is Pakistan's question to BKT terrorists: why are you forwarding IMF's agenda to keep Pakistan under ever increasing debt?

Earning dollars - The fix for Pakistan's problems

Let us discuss the means through which Government of Pakistan can earn dollars.

Holding US Treasuries

Economically powerful nations keep a part of their dollar reserves in the form of US Treasuries. Japan and China are two of the biggest holders of such bonds. The key benefit of holding T-Bills is that they are interest bearing. Instead of money sitting idle in the reserve, treasures generate more dollars, albeit the inflation adjusted outcome my still be negative. A sound economic policy must include treasuries within the reserve basket.

Investment through Sovereign Wealth Fund

The IMF supports the formation of 'Sovereign Wealth Fund' and has done a lot of work in the recent past to define acceptable practices around the management of such funds. This is one case where at least some Pakistanis have tried activism to raise awareness. Googling for 'Pakistan Sovereign Wealth Fund' brings up the page for an advocacy group that aims to free Pakistan from its current financial shackles. But under BKT leadership, no work has been done on this very important front.

The management of an SWF cannot be left simply in the hands of foreign managers. Pakistan needs professionals of highest caliber, who are also patriotic Pakistanis, to manage such a fund. But again, we find complete absence of policy and direction from BKT in creating the required human resource for this.

Careful investment by an SWF can be a powerful tool to earn dollars that can be used to pay off Pakistan's debts. The complete absence of Treasuries and SWF from BKT's economic plan shows either incompetence or subversion. In either case, this presents an extremely poor picture of BKT's three year tenure.

Government enterprises for exporting goods and services

This is a sordid chapter of BKT's reign. Imran Khan seems take an almost fetishistic interest in selling off PIA and Steel Mills. Thankfully, there is a PAF general heading PIA which has been the saving grace. Otherwise, Imran Khan's own minister has gone out of his way to ensure the demise of the national carrier:


The saga of the licenses of Pakistani pilots was a direct attack on Pakistan's economic well-being. Most people have been fed the propaganda of state run enterprises being inefficient. Be that as it may, there is nothing to suggest that state owned enterprises should also be inefficient. Unfortunately, in an environment of misgovernance, the past experiment with a German CEO has not borne any fruit. But this is misgovernance. PIA can earn valuable foreign exchange for the government if managed properly. And given its potential and the state of Pakistan's economy, this should have been one of the highest priority projects.

Similarly for Steel Mills. Export of high quality steel or finished products can become a big source of dollars, but again the enemies of Pakistan are making every single effort to make sure that dollar revenues are denied to Government of Pakistan.

The current crisis is the perfect case for creating government owned enterprises that lead to both domestic job creation and exports earnings. Why is no attention being paid to this important aspect? And why is BKT taking a completely 180 degrees approach?

Dollar denominated excise and customs

Yet another source of dollars can be duties and taxes on imports that are denominated in dollars. This author does not have the necessary data regarding dollarization of the tax regime, but had this been implemented properly, we would see a generous revenue stream.

A regime focused on destruction

The reader should now have a fairly good idea of what good economic management would look like. Which immediately shows BKT's economic management as not just disastrous, but outright anti-Pakistan. Let us now discuss another false narrative - rising exports.

It is true that Pakistani exports are doing much better than before. But what is not being discussed is the loss of revenue. This is how the export model of many Pakistani companies is structured. They have sister companies in Western countries that finalize business deals. These sister companies then proceed to buy goods and services at cost from their local operations and sell them at a profit. Pakistan only receives the cost in dollars whereas the real profit is kept overseas. This author is not aware of any studies into the size of this revenue loss, but just this component can easily run into billions of dollars.

Similarly, Foreign Direct Investment, or FDI is pushed as a silver bullet, especially by IMF. But FDI can be a double edged sword. Without proper government oversight, FDI can lead to dollar outflows. It is for this reason that well managed countries have mechanisms for deep government oversight. Take a look at how the Australian government reviews foreign investment:


Conclusion

It should be abundantly clear to the reader that the Bajwa-Khan Traitorship has been installed by the enemies of Pakistan to further their agenda of economic and financial terrorism. Until and unless this nation learns to take its leaders to task and make them pay for their crimes, Pakistan will remain a joke in the eyes of the world. The common man will continue to suffer under exorbitant prices and lack of services. When will Pakistan wake up and rise?

Here is my full rebuttal to the claims you have made which you call undeniable proof.



I have on many occasions criticized the Bajwa-Khan duopoly that has ensnared Pakistan within its heinous tentacles. I have maintained that this regime is taking Pakistan towards complete Western takeover and eventual secession into multiple independent countries. One important component of this heinous crime is financial subjugation of Pakistan. I feel the BKT (Bajwa-Khan Traitorship) has shown its true nature by perpetrating terrorist policies, and the time is now ripe to bare these policies in front of Pakistan.

You claim that PMIK and COAS want a complete Western takeover and break up of the country, but bringing back the country from a near bankruptcy from the time of taking over the office and towards economic stability it contradicts your statement.

First let us review the high level roadmap of BKT's malicious plan:



1. Circa April 2019 - Imran Khan accepts the existence of terrorists in Pakistan during visit to Iran, thus going against Gen Raheel's policy to deny the existence of terrorists within Pakistan. https://www.dawn.com/news/1477837

First of all you have twisted the words. He didn’t accept the existence of terrorists in Pakistan, he accepted that in the past terrorists had indeed use Pakistani soil to hurt Iran. The quote from the article that you shared

“Prime Minister Imran Khan on Monday took an unprecedented, albeit bold, step to infuse much-needed trust into the bilateral relationship with Iran by publicly acknowledging that terrorists had in the past misused Pakistani territory to undertake attacks against Iran.”

So what did PMIK say wrong here? it’s a fact that terrorists have used Pakistani soil to attack Iran. Also I can’t find anything to say that Gen Raheel ever denying the existence of terrorists in Pakistan, I think you just made that up yourself. infact Gen Raheel was the one who started the war against the terrorists in Pakistan even during Raheel Sharif’s term Pakistan acknowledged the arrest of Salam Rigi.



“On Saturday, Pakistani sources told the country’s media that authorities in Southwestern Pakistan had arrested the ringleader of Jaish al-Adl terrorist group as he was travelling on a bus from the border area.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/848585/captured-in-pakistan-iran-seeks-custody-of-fugitive-rigi



So I just negated your “undeniable proof”.

2. Circa May 2019 - Influence China to stop blocking the declaration of Maulana Masood Azhar as a global terrorist. https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/465278-un-to-declare-masood-azhar-a-global-terrorist-today

How does declaring Azhar a terrorist assist in “taking Pakistan towards complete Western takeover and eventual secession into multiple independent countries.”?

Snippet from the article you shared

“The United Nations is all set to declare Maulana Masood Azhar a global terrorist today after a green signal by Pakistan and China. It also comes after the ‘1267 sanctions committee’ of the UN deleted Masood’s linkage with the Pulwama incident and the unrest in the Indian Occupied Kashmir as propagated by India.

“Pakistan’s primary objection to Masood’s listing was that he had no link to the Pulwama attack or the ongoing freedom movement in the Indian Occupied Kashmir, asserting that it is an indigenous freedom struggle resisting Indian occupation and that Pakistan would continue with its ‘moral, political and diplomatic’ support to the oppressed people of Kashmir.”




Basically Pakistan objected linking Azhar to Pulwama on India’s request. Once that was removed Pakistan let them brand him as a global terrorist. I see a win for Pakistan here as India was denied linking him to Pulwama.

Also if I remember right wasn’t it PMIK and Bajwa duo that replied to India’s dropping of bombs in Balakot with full force of the PAF. I don’t think a traitor whos agenda is the breakup of the country will fightback the enemy aggression like they did on 27th Feb 2019. Compare it with the response of an actual traitor NS for the shooting down of PN’s Atlantique by IAF on 10th Aug 1999.

So that also negates your undeniable proof of treason.



3. Circa June 2019 - Pakistan is put into the FATF gray list. https://www.dawn.com/news/1418143



I already responded to this one previously however I will just say it again that the article you provided as “undeniable proof” itself states and I quote

“This is not the first time Pakistan has found itself on one of FATF’s list of not-so-good guys; the country was there in 2008 and from 2012 to 2015.”

Also the current grey-listing of Pakistan was decided in Feb 2018, not in June 2019 which you are trying to portray

Quote from the article

“But FATF again put Pakistan back on the grey list in 2018. In June 2018, Pakistan was placed on a watch list of countries for persistently inadequate controls to deter terror financing and money-laundering. The decision to place Pakistan on the list was taken in February 2018 following a US-sponsored move supported by the UK, France and Germany.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2286167/fatf-grey-listing-caused-38b-losses



So even this “undeniable proof” is false.

So far, everyone can understand the anti-Pakistan machinations of these traitors. In this article, we shall discuss at length the more obscure parts of this plan:

4. Circa June 2019 - Pakistan agrees to IMF conditions that go against its national interests. The relevant program can be accessed here: https://www.imf.org/en/Publications...he-Extended-Fund-Facility-Press-Release-47092

So is going to IMF a treason? If so Pakistan has taken 22 loans from IMF, so how is it that this time its treason but all the previous times it was a sound economic decision?

“22 loans in 61 years: Pakistan’s unwavering habit of going to the IMF”

https://tribune.com.pk/article/8186...akistans-unwavering-habit-of-going-to-the-imf

Also you have failed to provide what conditions were agreed on which were against the national interest.

So again your “undeniable proof” has no legs to stand on

5. Under the IMF program, a huge focus is given to increasing government revenue through tax collection. This has been a multi-year odyssey of the PTI government.

How do you even consider this as proof of treason? No numbers, no data, it feels like you wanted to fill some blank space. It actually negates the previous point where you claimed that IMF program was against national interest.

However lets look at the snapshot of revenue collected over the years and its pretty self-explanatory.


1630127951887.png



https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/government-revenues

And also let me add that the excluding yourself majority of overseas Pakistani have a lot more trust and faith on PMIK than previous leaders and it shows in the amount of remittances that they are sending back even with the ongoing global covid situation.

1630127969027.png


https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/remittances



So your claimed traitors are actually collecting more money and overseas Pakistanis are sending more to Pakistan which is benefitting the country, amazing traitors these guys are don’t you think?



6. Under the IMF program, key financial positions are given to IMF agents. The Governor State Bank Raza Baqir, FBR Chairman Shabbar Zaidi, and Adviser later to be Finance Minister Hafeez Shaikh have all served in IMF or World Bank.

Where is your “undeniable proof” of them being IMF agents? Or of any actions they have conducted that harmed the country?

Reza Baqir has a PhD in economics, yes he has worked for IMF but that doesn’t make him an agent

Shabbar Zaidi is a Charted Accountant and has never even worked for IMF.

Hafeez Shaikh also has a doctorate in economics and also never been with IMF.

Previously we had the absconder Dar as the Finance Minister who was actually caught by IMF for fudging data. We had Hussain Haqqani the Ambassador to US who along with his wife consistently dole out anti-Pakistan articles. We Qamar Zaman Chaudhry who was the Chairman of NAB and blatantly refused to do his job. Now if I wanted to break up the country then these are the types of people I would hire.



7. A superfluous strengthening of the Rupee is seen which is followed by a sudden drop.

Its floating exchange rate so ups and downs are bound to happen, the government has no hand in deciding the rate. If it did it would be a fixed exchange rate as what the absconder Dar had and we are still reeling from that mess.

8. A superfluous improvement in Current Account Deficit is seen which is followed by a sharp increase.

Here is the latest on the Pakistani current account, and as you can see its still a lot better than when they inherited the government.

1630127988014.png


https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/current-account



9. The agenda of privatizing key government entities is pushed.

Nothing wrong with privatization, ever since the nationalization blunder by ZAB, every Pakistani government has been trying to privatize.

10. No attention to flight/loss of capital in the name of 'exports'.

All the while, no one amongst Pakistan's intelligentsia and political elite has the motivation or capability to speak truthfully about the country's troubles and how to fix them. This gives a free hand to BKT to shamelessly tout their treason as economic growth and improvement.

With no figures or explanation, these have to be the best undeniable proof that I have come across. Looks more like you just wanted to make double figure points or by filling up space you wanted to make people believe that you have done through research.

In what follows, I will first explain the real problem being faced by Pakistan, and the actual solutions needed to fix them. It will be abundantly clear how BKT's policies amount to financial terrorism.



Dollars - Pakistan's biggest problem



Pakistan's biggest problem today is the dollar denominated debt that needs to be paid to the tune of approximately 10 billion dollars every year. Any sensible person would argue that Pakistan needs to generate dollars to pay back this debt. Instead, under IMF dictation, the sole focus is on revenue collection in Rupees. These need to be converted into dollars, thus weakening the rupee even further just by paying back debt. The practical outcome of this insidious policy is the strengthening of PKR when debt was temporarily suspended due to COVID. As soon as the COVID crises ended, the PKR lost that strength. This is exactly the IMF plan to keep a country forever indebted: by focusing on revenue collection in the vernacular currency, subjecting the country to exchange rate shocks when it is converted into dollars on the international market.



Instead of highlighting this fundamental problem and discussing solutions for it, BKT has built and controlled a false narrative around CAD (Current Account Deficit) and revenue generation.



So this is Pakistan's question to BKT terrorists: why are you forwarding IMF's agenda to keep Pakistan under ever increasing debt?

This section of your post its clearly evident that your economic intellect is ZERO. Now I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you. I will however explain briefly that the revenue collection in rupees is for the day to day running of the country. $$$ are mainly for imports. Pakistan has been going to IMF because we don’t have enough money to run the country.

Earning dollars - The fix for Pakistan's problems



Let us discuss the means through which Government of Pakistan can earn dollars.



Holding US Treasuries



Economically powerful nations keep a part of their dollar reserves in the form of US Treasuries. Japan and China are two of the biggest holders of such bonds. The key benefit of holding T-Bills is that they are interest bearing. Instead of money sitting idle in the reserve, treasures generate more dollars, albeit the inflation adjusted outcome my still be negative. A sound economic policy must include treasuries within the reserve basket.



The rebuttal for this is very simple, with which reserves did you want PMIK to be hold these T-Bills? When PMIK took office, the reserves in Pakistan were for less than 3 months of Import.

Investment through Sovereign Wealth Fund



The IMF supports the formation of 'Sovereign Wealth Fund' and has done a lot of work in the recent past to define acceptable practices around the management of such funds. This is one case where at least some Pakistanis have tried activism to raise awareness. Googling for 'Pakistan Sovereign Wealth Fund' brings up the page for an advocacy group that aims to free Pakistan from its current financial shackles. But under BKT leadership, no work has been done on this very important front.



The management of an SWF cannot be left simply in the hands of foreign managers. Pakistan needs professionals of highest caliber, who are also patriotic Pakistanis, to manage such a fund. But again, we find complete absence of policy and direction from BKT in creating the required human resource for this.



Careful investment by an SWF can be a powerful tool to earn dollars that can be used to pay off Pakistan's debts. The complete absence of Treasuries and SWF from BKT's economic plan shows either incompetence or subversion. In either case, this presents an extremely poor picture of BKT's three year tenure.

Wait, did you just support IMF? After all your rants, reading this makes you look like a complete hypocrite.

As for SWF, here is he definition of Sovereign Wealth Fund.

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As I said before Pakistan doesn’t have any surplus reserves. Also SWF delivers results in the long run, not when the country needs urgent fixes.



Government enterprises for exporting goods and services



This is a sordid chapter of BKT's reign. Imran Khan seems take an almost fetishistic interest in selling off PIA and Steel Mills. Thankfully, there is a PAF general heading PIA which has been the saving grace. Otherwise, Imran Khan's own minister has gone out of his way to ensure the demise of the national carrier:



www.bbc.com

Pakistani pilots grounded over 'fake licences'

Pakistan's aviation minister said a large number of pilots cheated in exams or have fake qualifications.

www.bbc.com



The saga of the licenses of Pakistani pilots was a direct attack on Pakistan's economic well-being. Most people have been fed the propaganda of state run enterprises being inefficient. Be that as it may, there is nothing to suggest that state owned enterprises should also be inefficient. Unfortunately, in an environment of misgovernance, the past experiment with a German CEO has not borne any fruit. But this is misgovernance. PIA can earn valuable foreign exchange for the government if managed properly. And given its potential and the state of Pakistan's economy, this should have been one of the highest priority projects.



Similarly for Steel Mills. Export of high quality steel or finished products can become a big source of dollars, but again the enemies of Pakistan are making every single effort to make sure that dollar revenues are denied to Government of Pakistan.



The current crisis is the perfect case for creating government owned enterprises that lead to both domestic job creation and exports earnings. Why is no attention being paid to this important aspect? And why is BKT taking a completely 180 degrees approach?

Again no figures, no data, no history, just rants and more rants, looks more like the author himself has a fetishistic interest in PMIK.

Just simple questions that will refute this part of your post

  • When was the last time PIA made a profit?
  • Should PMIK let the pilots with fake licenses keep flying?
  • When was the last time Steel Mill made a profit?
The answer to these questions will point you to who are the actual economic hitmen

Dollar denominated excise and customs



Yet another source of dollars can be duties and taxes on imports that are denominated in dollars. This author does not have the necessary data regarding dollarization of the tax regime, but had this been implemented properly, we would see a generous revenue stream.

This is hilarious, admits he has no information but still thinks that it will work. Anyway why stop here, why not start collecting tax in $$$.

A regime focused on destruction



The reader should now have a fairly good idea of what good economic management would look like. Which immediately shows BKT's economic management as not just disastrous, but outright anti-Pakistan. Let us now discuss another false narrative - rising exports.



It is true that Pakistani exports are doing much better than before. But what is not being discussed is the loss of revenue. This is how the export model of many Pakistani companies is structured. They have sister companies in Western countries that finalize business deals. These sister companies then proceed to buy goods and services at cost from their local operations and sell them at a profit. Pakistan only receives the cost in dollars whereas the real profit is kept overseas. This author is not aware of any studies into the size of this revenue loss, but just this component can easily run into billions of dollars.



Similarly, Foreign Direct Investment, or FDI is pushed as a silver bullet, especially by IMF. But FDI can be a double edged sword. Without proper government oversight, FDI can lead to dollar outflows. It is for this reason that well managed countries have mechanisms for deep government oversight. Take a look at how the Australian government reviews foreign investment:

Conclusion

It should be abundantly clear to the reader that the Bajwa-Khan Traitorship has been installed by the enemies of Pakistan to further their agenda of economic and financial terrorism. Until and unless this nation learns to take its leaders to task and make them pay for their crimes, Pakistan will remain a joke in the eyes of the world. The common man will continue to suffer under exorbitant prices and lack of services. When will Pakistan wake up and rise?

Actually NO, the author has failed to provide any stats or figures or comparison in support of his claims. He has conjured delusions only. Basically saying exports and FDI are bad, increasing revenue is bad, privatizing loss making entities is bad, going to IMF is bad but holding US treasury bills and Sovereign Wealth Fund is good.

Pakistan will rise after it removes people like the author from the posts that they got without merit.
Having a comprehension issue can be due to lack of opportunities - one could sympathize in that situation. But having an abundance of shamelessness is an unforgivable character flaw - stop denigrating yourself like this. And stop posting useless drivel on the thread when you have no useful thing to say.

Hope you practice what you preach.
Here is my full rebuttal to the claims you have made which you call undeniable proof.





You claim that PMIK and COAS want a complete Western takeover and break up of the country, but bringing back the country from a near bankruptcy from the time of taking over the office and towards economic stability it contradicts your statement.



First of all you have twisted the words. He didn’t accept the existence of terrorists in Pakistan, he accepted that in the past terrorists had indeed use Pakistani soil to hurt Iran. The quote from the article that you shared

“Prime Minister Imran Khan on Monday took an unprecedented, albeit bold, step to infuse much-needed trust into the bilateral relationship with Iran by publicly acknowledging that terrorists had in the past misused Pakistani territory to undertake attacks against Iran.”

So what did PMIK say wrong here? it’s a fact that terrorists have used Pakistani soil to attack Iran. Also I can’t find anything to say that Gen Raheel ever denying the existence of terrorists in Pakistan, I think you just made that up yourself. infact Gen Raheel was the one who started the war against the terrorists in Pakistan even during Raheel Sharif’s term Pakistan acknowledged the arrest of Salam Rigi.



“On Saturday, Pakistani sources told the country’s media that authorities in Southwestern Pakistan had arrested the ringleader of Jaish al-Adl terrorist group as he was travelling on a bus from the border area.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/848585/captured-in-pakistan-iran-seeks-custody-of-fugitive-rigi



So I just negated your “undeniable proof”.



How does declaring Azhar a terrorist assist in “taking Pakistan towards complete Western takeover and eventual secession into multiple independent countries.”?

Snippet from the article you shared

“The United Nations is all set to declare Maulana Masood Azhar a global terrorist today after a green signal by Pakistan and China. It also comes after the ‘1267 sanctions committee’ of the UN deleted Masood’s linkage with the Pulwama incident and the unrest in the Indian Occupied Kashmir as propagated by India.

“Pakistan’s primary objection to Masood’s listing was that he had no link to the Pulwama attack or the ongoing freedom movement in the Indian Occupied Kashmir, asserting that it is an indigenous freedom struggle resisting Indian occupation and that Pakistan would continue with its ‘moral, political and diplomatic’ support to the oppressed people of Kashmir.”




Basically Pakistan objected linking Azhar to Pulwama on India’s request. Once that was removed Pakistan let them brand him as a global terrorist. I see a win for Pakistan here as India was denied linking him to Pulwama.

Also if I remember right wasn’t it PMIK and Bajwa duo that replied to India’s dropping of bombs in Balakot with full force of the PAF. I don’t think a traitor whos agenda is the breakup of the country will fightback the enemy aggression like they did on 27th Feb 2019. Compare it with the response of an actual traitor NS for the shooting down of PN’s Atlantique by IAF on 10th Aug 1999.

So that also negates your undeniable proof of treason.







I already responded to this one previously however I will just say it again that the article you provided as “undeniable proof” itself states and I quote

“This is not the first time Pakistan has found itself on one of FATF’s list of not-so-good guys; the country was there in 2008 and from 2012 to 2015.”

Also the current grey-listing of Pakistan was decided in Feb 2018, not in June 2019 which you are trying to portray

Quote from the article

“But FATF again put Pakistan back on the grey list in 2018. In June 2018, Pakistan was placed on a watch list of countries for persistently inadequate controls to deter terror financing and money-laundering. The decision to place Pakistan on the list was taken in February 2018 following a US-sponsored move supported by the UK, France and Germany.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2286167/fatf-grey-listing-caused-38b-losses



So even this “undeniable proof” is false.



So is going to IMF a treason? If so Pakistan has taken 22 loans from IMF, so how is it that this time its treason but all the previous times it was a sound economic decision?

“22 loans in 61 years: Pakistan’s unwavering habit of going to the IMF”

https://tribune.com.pk/article/8186...akistans-unwavering-habit-of-going-to-the-imf

Also you have failed to provide what conditions were agreed on which were against the national interest.

So again your “undeniable proof” has no legs to stand on



How do you even consider this as proof of treason? No numbers, no data, it feels like you wanted to fill some blank space. It actually negates the previous point where you claimed that IMF program was against national interest.

However lets look at the snapshot of revenue collected over the years and its pretty self-explanatory.


1630127951887.png



https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/government-revenues

And also let me add that the excluding yourself majority of overseas Pakistani have a lot more trust and faith on PMIK than previous leaders and it shows in the amount of remittances that they are sending back even with the ongoing global covid situation.

1630127969027.png


https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/remittances



So your claimed traitors are actually collecting more money and overseas Pakistanis are sending more to Pakistan which is benefitting the country, amazing traitors these guys are don’t you think?





Where is your “undeniable proof” of them being IMF agents? Or of any actions they have conducted that harmed the country?

Reza Baqir has a PhD in economics, yes he has worked for IMF but that doesn’t make him an agent

Shabbar Zaidi is a Charted Accountant and has never even worked for IMF.

Hafeez Shaikh also has a doctorate in economics and also never been with IMF.

Previously we had the absconder Dar as the Finance Minister who was actually caught by IMF for fudging data. We had Hussain Haqqani the Ambassador to US who along with his wife consistently dole out anti-Pakistan articles. We Qamar Zaman Chaudhry who was the Chairman of NAB and blatantly refused to do his job. Now if I wanted to break up the country then these are the types of people I would hire.





Its floating exchange rate so ups and downs are bound to happen, the government has no hand in deciding the rate. If it did it would be a fixed exchange rate as what the absconder Dar had and we are still reeling from that mess.



Here is the latest on the Pakistani current account, and as you can see its still a lot better than when they inherited the government.

1630127988014.png


https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/current-account





Nothing wrong with privatization, ever since the nationalization blunder by ZAB, every Pakistani government has been trying to privatize.



With no figures or explanation, these have to be the best undeniable proof that I have come across. Looks more like you just wanted to make double figure points or by filling up space you wanted to make people believe that you have done through research.



This section of your post its clearly evident that your economic intellect is ZERO. Now I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you. I will however explain briefly that the revenue collection in rupees is for the day to day running of the country. $$$ are mainly for imports. Pakistan has been going to IMF because we don’t have enough money to run the country.





The rebuttal for this is very simple, with which reserves did you want PMIK to be hold these T-Bills? When PMIK took office, the reserves in Pakistan were for less than 3 months of Import.



Wait, did you just support IMF? After all your rants, reading this makes you look like a complete hypocrite.

As for SWF, here is he definition of Sovereign Wealth Fund.

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As I said before Pakistan doesn’t have any surplus reserves. Also SWF delivers results in the long run, not when the country needs urgent fixes.





Again no figures, no data, no history, just rants and more rants, looks more like the author himself has a fetishistic interest in PMIK.

Just simple questions that will refute this part of your post

  • When was the last time PIA made a profit?
  • Should PMIK let the pilots with fake licenses keep flying?
  • When was the last time Steel Mill made a profit?
The answer to these questions will point you to who are the actual economic hitmen



This is hilarious, admits he has no information but still thinks that it will work. Anyway why stop here, why not start collecting tax in $$$.



Actually NO, the author has failed to provide any stats or figures or comparison in support of his claims. He has conjured delusions only. Basically saying exports and FDI are bad, increasing revenue is bad, privatizing loss making entities is bad, going to IMF is bad but holding US treasury bills and Sovereign Wealth Fund is good. All this proves that the author's claim of "undeniable proof" was just a figment of his imagination and nothing more.


Pakistan will rise after it removes people like the author from the posts that they got without merit.


Hope you practice what you preach.
 
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I personally blame the Martians.

Whowuddathunk that accepting responsibility squarely where it lies is the first step to rectifying the problem?! If we blame others, we don't have to solve anything. Brilliant! :D

That's exactly the thing, the first step towards rectifying the problem is accepting culpability squarely where it lies. If we don't blame the economic hitmen, we remain under the shackles of economic hitmen. This is exactly what the OP explains and by making vague, uncorroborated statements, you are trolling on the thread.

@The Eagle @waz @WebMaster @Horus
 
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Here is my full rebuttal to the claims you have made which you call undeniable proof.





You claim that PMIK and COAS want a complete Western takeover and break up of the country, but bringing back the country from a near bankruptcy from the time of taking over the office and towards economic stability it contradicts your statement.

A former World Bank employee told me this: countries like Pakistan and Venezuela are bank rolling the IMF. You owe more than 100 billion dollars to the IMF and its cronies and they want that money back. It doesn't serve their purpose to create another Libya. It serves their purpose to create an acceptably functional society which can keep paying them interest. While pressurizing you through this financial tool, the West will support other initiatives for the eventual break up. Which is why OP says One important component of this heinous crime is financial subjugation of Pakistan. Why are you turning a blind eye to Bilawal's recent visit to Washington? PTM? BLA? What is BKT doing about all of this? They are facilitating them fully and completely. This thread was to highlight the financial component of this strategy and it depends on the awareness of Pakistanis to supply the missing link. Looks like it is too much to ask from Pakistanis?

First of all you have twisted the words. He didn’t accept the existence of terrorists in Pakistan, he accepted that in the past terrorists had indeed use Pakistani soil to hurt Iran. The quote from the article that you shared

“Prime Minister Imran Khan on Monday took an unprecedented, albeit bold, step to infuse much-needed trust into the bilateral relationship with Iran by publicly acknowledging that terrorists had in the past misused Pakistani territory to undertake attacks against Iran.”

So what did PMIK say wrong here? it’s a fact that terrorists have used Pakistani soil to attack Iran. Also I can’t find anything to say that Gen Raheel ever denying the existence of terrorists in Pakistan, I think you just made that up yourself. infact Gen Raheel was the one who started the war against the terrorists in Pakistan even during Raheel Sharif’s term Pakistan acknowledged the arrest of Salam Rigi.



“On Saturday, Pakistani sources told the country’s media that authorities in Southwestern Pakistan had arrested the ringleader of Jaish al-Adl terrorist group as he was travelling on a bus from the border area.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/848585/captured-in-pakistan-iran-seeks-custody-of-fugitive-rigi



So I just negated your “undeniable proof”.

The article is simply trying to lower the impact of Imran Khan's real statement. Here, watch from 22:05

Just a few days back - three or four days back - we have 14 of our security personnel were killed [sic] by terrorist in Baluchistan. And I know that Iran has suffered from terrorism which are from groups operating from within Pakistan.

Now immediately before that statement, he tries to explain how Pakistan itself suffers from terrorism etc, but this statement in the run up to FATF grey listing is smoking gun proof of his culpability. Take a look at what Hina Rabbani Khar has to say. Do I need to remind you that she has served as Foreign Minister of Pakistan?

PPP MNA Hina Rabbani Khar, who has previously served as the country's foreign minister, was unforgiving in her criticism of Prime Minister Imran's statements.

"We are worried for the country after seeing it continually become a laughing stock," she said. "This is not funny anymore. You cannot play with the destiny of this country anymore."

Dawn has tried to downplay Imran Khan's words. But thank you for helping me inform the whole world just how criminal his words actually were. Now negate this 'undeniable proof'.

How does declaring Azhar a terrorist assist in “taking Pakistan towards complete Western takeover and eventual secession into multiple independent countries.”?

Snippet from the article you shared

“The United Nations is all set to declare Maulana Masood Azhar a global terrorist today after a green signal by Pakistan and China. It also comes after the ‘1267 sanctions committee’ of the UN deleted Masood’s linkage with the Pulwama incident and the unrest in the Indian Occupied Kashmir as propagated by India.

“Pakistan’s primary objection to Masood’s listing was that he had no link to the Pulwama attack or the ongoing freedom movement in the Indian Occupied Kashmir, asserting that it is an indigenous freedom struggle resisting Indian occupation and that Pakistan would continue with its ‘moral, political and diplomatic’ support to the oppressed people of Kashmir.”




Basically Pakistan objected linking Azhar to Pulwama on India’s request. Once that was removed Pakistan let them brand him as a global terrorist. I see a win for Pakistan here as India was denied linking him to Pulwama.

When you open your mouth on a subject, try to have some background information on it. Because the matter of Maulana Masood Azhar as global terrorist is not an outcome of the Pulwama attack. At that point, China had blocked multiple attempts by the West to declare him a global terrorist. De-linking his name from the Pulwama attack is exactly the same kind of small, trivial win that gives stooges like yourself a sense of self-importance and accomplishment. Get out of your limited view and look at the larger picture. Your traitor leaders helped the enemy in declaring the someone inside Pakistan is a global terrorist - a threat to nations globally. And since then, Maulana Masood Azhar is the centerpiece of Indian vitriol against Pakistan. This Indian agent is a facilitator of diatribe against Pakistan.

Also if I remember right wasn’t it PMIK and Bajwa duo that replied to India’s dropping of bombs in Balakot with full force of the PAF. I don’t think a traitor whos agenda is the breakup of the country will fightback the enemy aggression like they did on 27th Feb 2019. Compare it with the response of an actual traitor NS for the shooting down of PN’s Atlantique by IAF on 10th Aug 1999.

So that also negates your undeniable proof of treason.

Go read this entire thread to see how SR is a sordid saga of BKT working against Pakistan's vested interests


I already responded to this one previously however I will just say it again that the article you provided as “undeniable proof” itself states and I quote

“This is not the first time Pakistan has found itself on one of FATF’s list of not-so-good guys; the country was there in 2008 and from 2012 to 2015.”

Read here:

Also the current grey-listing of Pakistan was decided in Feb 2018, not in June 2019 which you are trying to portray

Quote from the article

“But FATF again put Pakistan back on the grey list in 2018. In June 2018, Pakistan was placed on a watch list of countries for persistently inadequate controls to deter terror financing and money-laundering. The decision to place Pakistan on the list was taken in February 2018 following a US-sponsored move supported by the UK, France and Germany.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2286167/fatf-grey-listing-caused-38b-losses



So even this “undeniable proof” is false.

And now you have descended down to outright prevarication. This is what the article actually says

The international watchdog against money laundering and financing of terrorism, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF), has put Pakistan on a list of “jurisdictions with strategic deficiencies”, also known as the grey list.

The word put, which I have emboldened, leads to the IMF website which is dated 29 June, 2018. On that date, this is what IMF has to say

Pakistan
In June 2018, Pakistan made a high-level political commitment to work with the FATF and APG to strengthen its AML/CFT regime and to address its strategic counter-terrorist financing-related deficiencies. Pakistan will work to implement its action plan to accomplish these objectives, including by: (1) demonstrating that TF risks are properly identified, assessed, and that supervision is applied on a risk-sensitive basis; (2) demonstrating that remedial actions and sanctions are applied in cases of AML/CFT violations, and that these actions have an effect on AML/CFT compliance by financial institutions; (3) demonstrating that competent authorities are cooperating and taking action to identify and take enforcement action against illegal money or value transfer services (MVTS); (4) demonstrating that authorities are identifying cash couriers and enforcing controls on illicit movement of currency and understanding the risk of cash couriers being used for TF; (5) improving inter-agency coordination including between provincial and federal authorities on combating TF risks; (6) demonstrating that law enforcement agencies (LEAs) are identifying and investigating the widest range of TF activity and that TF investigations and prosecutions target designated persons and entities, and persons and entities acting on behalf or at the direction of the designated persons or entities; (7) demonstrating that TF prosecutions result in effective, proportionate and dissuasive sanctions and enhancing the capacity and support for prosecutors and the judiciary; and (8) demonstrating effective implementation of targeted financial sanctions (supported by a comprehensive legal obligation) against all 1267 and 1373 designated terrorists and those acting for or on their behalf, including preventing the raising and moving of funds, identifying and freezing assets (movable and immovable), and prohibiting access to funds and financial services; (9) demonstrating enforcement against TFS violations including administrative and criminal penalties and provincial and federal authorities cooperating on enforcement cases; (10) demonstrating that facilities and services owned or controlled by designated persons are deprived of their resources and the usage of the resources.

In June 2018, Pakistan agreed to implement a set of reforms. It had NOT been put into the grey list. You have dishonestly used an incorrect excerpt from Tribune in an attempt to portray OP as self-contradictory. This only lessens your own credibility.

So is going to IMF a treason? If so Pakistan has taken 22 loans from IMF, so how is it that this time its treason but all the previous times it was a sound economic decision?

“22 loans in 61 years: Pakistan’s unwavering habit of going to the IMF”

https://tribune.com.pk/article/8186...akistans-unwavering-habit-of-going-to-the-imf

Also you have failed to provide what conditions were agreed on which were against the national interest.

So again your “undeniable proof” has no legs to stand on

If you have been reading the link I have been posting, you can see how this is just a comprehension issue on your part.

How do you even consider this as proof of treason? No numbers, no data, it feels like you wanted to fill some blank space. It actually negates the previous point where you claimed that IMF program was against national interest.

However lets look at the snapshot of revenue collected over the years and its pretty self-explanatory.


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https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/government-revenues

And also let me add that the excluding yourself majority of overseas Pakistani have a lot more trust and faith on PMIK than previous leaders and it shows in the amount of remittances that they are sending back even with the ongoing global covid situation.

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https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/remittances



So your claimed traitors are actually collecting more money and overseas Pakistanis are sending more to Pakistan which is benefitting the country, amazing traitors these guys are don’t you think?

As good puppets of their masters, they are raising the money needed to pay back debt. And what OP is telling you is that you will continue to pay debt forever if you keep following these traitors blindly. What you are showing is a comprehension problem and that you have either not read OP at all, or haven't understood it at all.

Where is your “undeniable proof” of them being IMF agents? Or of any actions they have conducted that harmed the country?

Reza Baqir has a PhD in economics, yes he has worked for IMF but that doesn’t make him an agent

Shabbar Zaidi is a Charted Accountant and has never even worked for IMF.

Hafeez Shaikh also has a doctorate in economics and also never been with IMF.

Previously we had the absconder Dar as the Finance Minister who was actually caught by IMF for fudging data. We had Hussain Haqqani the Ambassador to US who along with his wife consistently dole out anti-Pakistan articles. We Qamar Zaman Chaudhry who was the Chairman of NAB and blatantly refused to do his job. Now if I wanted to break up the country then these are the types of people I would hire.

Thank you for giving us a history lesson on traitors of Pakistan. But since I am focused on the present, take a look at what these 'highly qualified' people tried to do.

Shabbar Zaidi - Tried to drown Pakistan in a sea of documentation by requiring ID cards for Rs 50000/- transactions and above. Here, take a look at what bureaucratic hellhole looks like

The hell of Russian bureaucracy | Russia | The Guardian

Hafeez Shaikh - Tried to put State Bank under IMF's control. I spoke out about it in the past


The problem with our so called 'educated Pakistanis' is that education hasn't really opened their minds and they don't think for themselves. They get easily impressed by World Bank and IMF qualifications. Which goes in favor of our enemies.

Its floating exchange rate so ups and downs are bound to happen, the government has no hand in deciding the rate. If it did it would be a fixed exchange rate as what the absconder Dar had and we are still reeling from that mess.



Here is the latest on the Pakistani current account, and as you can see its still a lot better than when they inherited the government.

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https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/current-account

Right, please learn some economics and then come back to discuss. An unstable exchange rate is a threat to business and Pakistan's foreign trade. Instead of paying attention to what OP is saying, you are trying to trivialize exchange rate shock to the economy. You are wasting my time.

Nothing wrong with privatization, ever since the nationalization blunder by ZAB, every Pakistani government has been trying to privatize.

Wisdom is lost upon thick headed fools. If this is your response to OP, then you deserve to remain a slave forever.

This section of your post its clearly evident that your economic intellect is ZERO. Now I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you. I will however explain briefly that the revenue collection in rupees is for the day to day running of the country. $$$ are mainly for imports. Pakistan has been going to IMF because we don’t have enough money to run the country.

Tell us the mechanism through which Pakistan raises money to pay back debt. It will become evident what is going on.

The rebuttal for this is very simple, with which reserves did you want PMIK to be hold these T-Bills? When PMIK took office, the reserves in Pakistan were for less than 3 months of Import.

You moron, I am listing all the ways in which dollars can be raised and what good economic policy looks like. The reserves today stand at around 20 billion, where is Imran Khan's economic management? His sole focus is on raising taxes.

As for SWF, here is he definition of Sovereign Wealth Fund.

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As I said before Pakistan doesn’t have any surplus reserves. Also SWF delivers results in the long run, not when the country needs urgent fixes.

Comprehension problem. Work on it, maybe even seek help for it.

Or maybe you are trying to grasp on straws to find any opportunity you can to spew sh*t.

Again no figures, no data, no history, just rants and more rants, looks more like the author himself has a fetishistic interest in PMIK.

Just simple questions that will refute this part of your post

  • When was the last time PIA made a profit?
  • Should PMIK let the pilots with fake licenses keep flying?
  • When was the last time Steel Mill made a profit?
The answer to these questions will point you to who are the actual economic hitmen

Like a good mental slave, you look at the status quo and find it too hard to change anything. So you capitulate and just give up to let others do the job for you. What you have written above is intellectual laziness.

OP is an article, not a book. It relies on the intelligence of readers to make connections and supply missing parts. But when the reader is a fool... well I need to educate fools. We could talk about how to make these institutions profitable, but then what use is your lazy Prime Minister and his team? What is their plan to generate more dollars? Asking overseas Pakistanis to open Roshan Digital Accounts? What a joke! Ill informed morons are the only people impressed by this mismanagement.

This is hilarious, admits he has no information but still thinks that it will work. Anyway why stop here, why not start collecting tax in $$$.



Actually NO, the author has failed to provide any stats or figures or comparison in support of his claims. He has conjured delusions only. Basically saying exports and FDI are bad, increasing revenue is bad, privatizing loss making entities is bad, going to IMF is bad but holding US treasury bills and Sovereign Wealth Fund is good.

Pakistan will rise after it removes people like the author from the posts that they got without merit.


Hope you practice what you preach.

This is just childish ranting. I could have a meaningful discussion if you showed maturity. Your response is to take my words and spew vitriolic nonsense. That does not constitute refutation, it does show your idiocy. You are a good case study in mental slavery. Don't think for yourself, and when someone tries to engage your brain just babble nonsense at them. Each of the points I have made in OP can have an entire thread dedicated to it. How unfortunate I have to deal with laughing yahoos here.
 
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A former World Bank employee told me this: countries like Pakistan and Venezuela are bank rolling the IMF. You owe more than 100 billion dollars to the IMF and its cronies and they want that money back. It doesn't serve their purpose to create another Libya. It serves their purpose to create an acceptably functional society which can keep paying them interest. While pressurizing you through this financial tool, the West will support other initiatives for the eventual break up. Which is why OP says One important component of this heinous crime is financial subjugation of Pakistan. Why are you turning a blind eye to Bilawal's recent visit to Washington? PTM? BLA? What is BKT doing about all of this? They are facilitating them fully and completely. This thread was to highlight the financial component of this strategy and it depends on the awareness of Pakistanis to supply the missing link. Looks like it is too much to ask from Pakistanis?



The article is simply trying to lower the impact of Imran Khan's real statement. Here, watch from 22:05



Now immediately before that statement, he tries to explain how Pakistan itself suffers from terrorism etc, but this statement in the run up to FATF grey listing is smoking gun proof of his culpability. Take a look at what Hina Rabbani Khar has to say. Do I need to remind you that she has served as Foreign Minister of Pakistan?



Dawn has tried to downplay Imran Khan's words. But thank you for helping me inform the whole world just how criminal his words actually were. Now negate this 'undeniable proof'.



When you open your mouth on a subject, try to have some background information on it. Because the matter of Maulana Masood Azhar as global terrorist is not an outcome of the Pulwama attack. At that point, China had blocked multiple attempts by the West to declare him a global terrorist. De-linking his name from the Pulwama attack is exactly the same kind of small, trivial win that gives stooges like yourself a sense of self-importance and accomplishment. Get out of your limited view and look at the larger picture. Your traitor leaders helped the enemy in declaring the someone inside Pakistan is a global terrorist - a threat to nations globally. And since then, Maulana Masood Azhar is the centerpiece of Indian vitriol against Pakistan. This Indian agent is a facilitator of diatribe against Pakistan.



Go read this entire thread to see how SR is a sordid saga of BKT working against Pakistan's vested interests




Read here:



And now you have descended down to outright prevarication. This is what the article actually says



The word put, which I have emboldened, leads to the IMF website which is dated 29 June, 2018. On that date, this is what IMF has to say



In June 2018, Pakistan agreed to implement a set of reforms. It had NOT been put into the grey list. You have dishonestly used an incorrect excerpt from Tribune in an attempt to portray OP as self-contradictory. This only lessens your own credibility.



If you have been reading the link I have been posting, you can see how this is just a comprehension issue on your part.



As good puppets of their masters, they are raising the money needed to pay back debt. And what OP is telling you is that you will continue to pay debt forever if you keep following these traitors blindly. What you are showing is a comprehension problem and that you have either not read OP at all, or haven't understood it at all.



Thank you for giving us a history lesson on traitors of Pakistan. But since I am focused on the present, take a look at what these 'highly qualified' people tried to do.

Shabbar Zaidi - Tried to drown Pakistan in a sea of documentation by requiring ID cards for Rs 50000/- transactions and above. Here, take a look at what bureaucratic hellhole looks like

The hell of Russian bureaucracy | Russia | The Guardian

Hafeez Shaikh - Tried to put State Bank under IMF's control. I spoke out about it in the past


The problem with our so called 'educated Pakistanis' is that education hasn't really opened their minds and they don't think for themselves. They get easily impressed by World Bank and IMF qualifications. Which goes in favor of our enemies.



Right, please learn some economics and then come back to discuss. An unstable exchange rate is a threat to business and Pakistan's foreign trade. Instead of paying attention to what OP is saying, you are trying to trivialize exchange rate shock to the economy. You are wasting my time.



Wisdom is lost upon thick headed fools. If this is your response to OP, then you deserve to remain a slave forever.



Tell us the mechanism through which Pakistan raises money to pay back debt. It will become evident what is going on.



You moron, I am listing all the ways in which dollars can be raised and what good economic policy looks like. The reserves today stand at around 20 billion, where is Imran Khan's economic management? His sole focus is on raising taxes.



Comprehension problem. Work on it, maybe even seek help for it.

Or maybe you are trying to grasp on straws to find any opportunity you can to spew sh*t.



Like a good mental slave, you look at the status quo and find it too hard to change anything. So you capitulate and just give up to let others do the job for you. What you have written above is intellectual laziness.

OP is an article, not a book. It relies on the intelligence of readers to make connections and supply missing parts. But when the reader is a fool... well I need to educate fools. We could talk about how to make these institutions profitable, but then what use is your lazy Prime Minister and his team? What is their plan to generate more dollars? Asking overseas Pakistanis to open Roshan Digital Accounts? What a joke! Ill informed morons are the only people impressed by this mismanagement.



This is just childish ranting. I could have a meaningful discussion if you showed maturity. Your response is to take my words and spew vitriolic nonsense. That does not constitute refutation, it does show your idiocy. You are a good case study in mental slavery. Don't think for yourself, and when someone tries to engage your brain just babble nonsense at them. Each of the points I have made in OP can have an entire thread dedicated to it. How unfortunate I have to deal with laughing yahoos here.

Mate, not once i called you a moron or a slave, tell me where you live, i would like to personally show you how much of a moron i am.
 
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Mate, not once i called you a moron or a slave, tell me where you live, i would like to personally show you how much of a moron i am.

This is what happens when you use outright lies to spread misinformation, are uninformed about the subject matter at hand yet show arrogance, and trivialize serious points. Also, if you use the internet to physically harass people, you will be reported to the police. This is not the first time you are engaging in this activity. You have a history of threatening physical violence.
My point is simple. If you remember Ajit Doval last video which he was claiming that he dont trust Pakistani top generals. For a moment if you delete writer name from this article n write ajit Doval or arnab guswami name. You do understand what I am saying. Because the title shows how much this writer hates pak army n current administration. With out relising. Ik let alone destroyed Indian narrative which was built by india via European mis info lab in last 20 years. So I will advise him chill bro. Ik is there for next term
Simple point all of this. When you hold atomic or big army of 600k then your enemy dont attack with bombs n guns. They occupy you with corrupt people. Then those corrupt people traffic money out of country then your enemy launch next attack with financial companies likes of world bank imf FATF. Do you remember what Indian FM said about FATF. He said we Indian made sure via FATF that Pakistan stays in gray list. So buddy i want to give you Nobel prize for taking us as idiots.

Here is one thing you will not find in any Indian agent or N League/PPP supporter: useful advice that actually benefits Pakistan. It doesn't serve their purpose to arm Pakistanis with the knowledge needed to pull themselves out of this financial mess. The suggestions I have provided actually work. If you are willing to engage in sensible discussion I can explain how they work. The alternative is for you to keep waiting for the debt to go away, for prices to come down, and for Pakistan to become economically powerful. It won't happen.

Sure, Indian FM made that statement, and now you can see who helped India towards that aim.
 
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Yes, but did you try to understand what I am saying? Here, let me help you. The points in OP are slowly building up a case and are to be read in totality. The OP is collating the FATF and IMF developments by showing you a timeline that demonstrates a concerted, organized effort on multiple fronts. The result is the economic enslavement of Pakistan which is being further supported through a detrimental policy of paying debt through taxes raised in local currency. Do you now understand?

You are so right, he is a Monster Improving Pakistan's economy and paying off debt with Tax collection. This Man is so bad for Pakistan that 100s of previously idle textile units is now firing on full cylinders and Just to light a fire under some Keister over 100 additional Textile manufacturing plants are in the process of being set up as we speak Not counting other goods manufacturer investing in Pakistan...
 
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You are so right, he is a Monster Improving Pakistan's economy and paying off debt with Tax collection. This Man is so bad for Pakistan that 100s of previously idle textile units is now firing on full cylinders and Just to light a fire under some Keister over 100 additional Textile manufacturing plants are in the process of being set up as we speak Not counting other goods manufacturer investing in Pakistan...

Not only that, IT startups are being funded by venture capital and nobody knows where that is coming from. So like good mental slaves, let's celebrate.

Or take a moment to ponder and realize that all of this is not going to pay off the debt. OP already shows how majority of revenue from exports doesn't benefit Pakistan. Now see what the state of your economy really is from your own Finance Minister


Ask the question, what has happened in Afghanistan which should affect Pakistan's economy? And you will realize the minister is deflecting blame to hide the sorry state of economy encumbered by IMF's so called reforms and because of mismanagement by economic hitmen. You have been misled by carefully crafted headlines that snapshot good performance at a particular point in time.

This is your debt:

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This is your imports

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And this is your exports:

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Your creditors want your exports to grow just enough so you can be a reliable revenue stream while debt keeps growing and you remain a revenue stream indefinitely. Is this too hard to understand?
 
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holding US treasury bills and Sovereign Wealth Fund is good.
you forgot all other forms of interest (which is not even equal to the loss in the value of the original capital) are haraam/forbidden/verboten/mamnooh except from holding US treasury bills and Sovereign Wealth Fund.

so the choice is to take a small loss or a bigger loss every year or buy T-Bills, hm... what a satanic conunderum or is is it a paradox (I don't know the meaning of either of them 2 word I just wrote so no lecture please)
 
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@CriticalThought you are missing out on waste of natural and human resources of Pakistan on useless directions and the other appointments he made.

Copying Indian state structure, a position of national security advisor was created and despite having very talented retired generals.. he choose to hire a dubious American national.

Similarly many other advisor were hired, only for accusing abusing Maryam Nawaz and now Junaid Safdar, but eventually getting humiliated on every count, just like they failed to bring back NS and now failed to stop the marriage of Junaid Safdar, but they do won on polarizing the society, seems they have a task of civil war, which they have taken most seriously.

Broadsheet case was another international insult, besides the regular nonsense of of IK, when he take over doze of good cannabises.

How they profited from export and re-import of sugar and wheat is classic example.

How they imported chemicals and vegetables from India is another case waiting of investigation.

Petroleum scandal as well need investigation.

Corrupt cash made by selling land to overseas Pakistanis, around Rawalpindi ring road and still the road is non existing.

Lahore airport expansion project is stopped.

Last section of Lahore ring road is not built, but the did demolished houses and plaza by declaring them in the way, despite the fact that land around it freely available.

They increased the cost of Lahore Metro by not putting it into operation and wasting funds on petty works.

This mafia increased corruption and used remittance to convert corrupt money in to $/riyal etc.

They planned huge corruption in construction of M6 by doing it way of BoT but in process, got stuck in it because NHA is full of engineers and it's difficult to do corruption by taking few on board.

They promised to their voters of returning IMF loans on second day of Imran Khan's takeover, but end up abuse same voters on social media when they demand delivery.

They promised to prove corruption in construction of M5 and Lahore Khanewal motorway, Sialkot Motorway, various power plant construction and yet still failing to deliver on their promises.

Story of loans from IMF and their policy to handle finances is a tale of treason in it self.

He sold expensive state owned cars for pennies and even cows.

He rented state property, sold state land all to generate funds to sale through his five years.

He wanted to sell Karachi Steel and PIA, which he has previous opposed using logic that it's being sold in pennies by Musharraf.

Imran Khan and team, spoiled diplomatic relations with GCC, just by behaving undiplomatic. What exactly was the profit in doing that?
SMQ, regularly visit Tajikistan, without telling nation, what's the profit in their for Pakistan?

Than there was sudden rise in anti Arab lies on social media, just as if Zardari has assumed power once more, but now all is quite in this direction, seems like case of SW update.

All of the cities, state properties has been rendered to ruins due to abuse and lack of maintenance and cleaning, but all state officials are sucking state funds like black hole.

Country is grappled in COVID just because they continue to ship people to Iran and in the end took all people, without proper process and record.

All state hospitals built by previous govt. are deliberately being misused, and rendered to scrap, so that next government need to rebuilt and spent money on repair.

How they distributed COVID aid to their own tribe first while people from other belief system continue to die without visiting Iran.

How he got Abhinandan released over night, was very mysterious until Javed Sadiq exposed the ruling mafia involved.

Same power people, didn't allowed PAF pilots to take down InAF planes on 27th February.

These people black mailed judiciary to get decisions in their favor.

Used NAB to give clean chit to Zardari.

Freed Uzair Baloch and many more of PPP.

Rigged all by elections and are still trying to rig every election in future by introducing machines.

All the roads, which were built by previous regimes are broken and need re-construction from all over again.

There was new GHQ planned, but these friends of modi start vomiting when some one talk about it.

List is long let's see what tangible they have to show after 3 years... besides their own corrupt wealth.
 
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NOTE: This article includes suggestions about dealing in interest bearing instruments. Interest is Haram in Islam and the author abides by this Islamic teaching. Unfortunately, a discussion on the problems of Pakistan's interest based economy necessarily needs to include interest based solutions. The discussion on how to convert the economy to a non-interest one is out of the scope of this article, and beyond the capabilities of this author. More knowledgeable people and actual religious scholars are encouraged to inform everyone on this very important topic.

I have on many occasions criticized the Bajwa-Khan duopoly that has ensnared Pakistan within its heinous tentacles. I have maintained that this regime is taking Pakistan towards complete Western takeover and eventual secession into multiple independent countries. One important component of this heinous crime is financial subjugation of Pakistan. I feel the BKT (Bajwa-Khan Traitorship) has shown its true nature by perpetrating terrorist policies, and the time is now ripe to bare these policies in front of Pakistan.

First let us review the high level roadmap of BKT's malicious plan:

1. Circa April 2019 - Imran Khan accepts the existence of terrorists in Pakistan during visit to Iran, thus going against Gen Raheel's policy to deny the existence of terrorists within Pakistan. https://www.dawn.com/news/1477837

2. Circa May 2019 - Influence China to stop blocking the declaration of Maulana Masood Azhar as a global terrorist. https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/465278-un-to-declare-masood-azhar-a-global-terrorist-today

3. Circa June 2019 - Pakistan is put into the FATF gray list. https://www.dawn.com/news/1418143

So far, everyone can understand the anti-Pakistan machinations of these traitors. In this article, we shall discuss at length the more obscure parts of this plan:

4. Circa June 2019 - Pakistan agrees to IMF conditions that go against its national interests. The relevant program can be accessed here: https://www.imf.org/en/Publications...he-Extended-Fund-Facility-Press-Release-47092

5. Under the IMF program, a huge focus is given to increasing government revenue through tax collection. This has been a multi-year odyssey of the PTI government.

6. Under the IMF program, key financial positions are given to IMF agents. The Governor State Bank Raza Baqir, FBR Chairman Shabbar Zaidi, and Adviser later to be Finance Minister Hafeez Shaikh have all served in IMF or World Bank.

7. A superfluous strengthening of the Rupee is seen which is followed by a sudden drop.

8. A superfluous improvement in Current Account Deficit is seen which is followed by a sharp increase.

9. The agenda of privatizing key government entities is pushed.

10. No attention to flight/loss of capital in the name of 'exports'.

All the while, no one amongst Pakistan's intelligentsia and political elite has the motivation or capability to speak truthfully about the country's troubles and how to fix them. This gives a free hand to BKT to shamelessly tout their treason as economic growth and improvement.

In what follows, I will first explain the real problem being faced by Pakistan, and the actual solutions needed to fix them. It will be abundantly clear how BKT's policies amount to financial terrorism.

Dollars - Pakistan's biggest problem

Pakistan's biggest problem today is the dollar denominated debt that needs to be paid to the tune of approximately 10 billion dollars every year. Any sensible person would argue that Pakistan needs to generate dollars to pay back this debt. Instead, under IMF dictation, the sole focus is on revenue collection in Rupees. These need to be converted into dollars, thus weakening the rupee even further just by paying back debt. The practical outcome of this insidious policy is the strengthening of PKR when debt was temporarily suspended due to COVID. As soon as the COVID crises ended, the PKR lost that strength. This is exactly the IMF plan to keep a country forever indebted: by focusing on revenue collection in the vernacular currency, subjecting the country to exchange rate shocks when it is converted into dollars on the international market.

Instead of highlighting this fundamental problem and discussing solutions for it, BKT has built and controlled a false narrative around CAD (Current Account Deficit) and revenue generation.

So this is Pakistan's question to BKT terrorists: why are you forwarding IMF's agenda to keep Pakistan under ever increasing debt?

Earning dollars - The fix for Pakistan's problems

Let us discuss the means through which Government of Pakistan can earn dollars.

Holding US Treasuries

Economically powerful nations keep a part of their dollar reserves in the form of US Treasuries. Japan and China are two of the biggest holders of such bonds. The key benefit of holding T-Bills is that they are interest bearing. Instead of money sitting idle in the reserve, treasures generate more dollars, albeit the inflation adjusted outcome my still be negative. A sound economic policy must include treasuries within the reserve basket.

Investment through Sovereign Wealth Fund

The IMF supports the formation of 'Sovereign Wealth Fund' and has done a lot of work in the recent past to define acceptable practices around the management of such funds. This is one case where at least some Pakistanis have tried activism to raise awareness. Googling for 'Pakistan Sovereign Wealth Fund' brings up the page for an advocacy group that aims to free Pakistan from its current financial shackles. But under BKT leadership, no work has been done on this very important front.

The management of an SWF cannot be left simply in the hands of foreign managers. Pakistan needs professionals of highest caliber, who are also patriotic Pakistanis, to manage such a fund. But again, we find complete absence of policy and direction from BKT in creating the required human resource for this.

Careful investment by an SWF can be a powerful tool to earn dollars that can be used to pay off Pakistan's debts. The complete absence of Treasuries and SWF from BKT's economic plan shows either incompetence or subversion. In either case, this presents an extremely poor picture of BKT's three year tenure.

Government enterprises for exporting goods and services

This is a sordid chapter of BKT's reign. Imran Khan seems take an almost fetishistic interest in selling off PIA and Steel Mills. Thankfully, there is a PAF general heading PIA which has been the saving grace. Otherwise, Imran Khan's own minister has gone out of his way to ensure the demise of the national carrier:


The saga of the licenses of Pakistani pilots was a direct attack on Pakistan's economic well-being. Most people have been fed the propaganda of state run enterprises being inefficient. Be that as it may, there is nothing to suggest that state owned enterprises should also be inefficient. Unfortunately, in an environment of misgovernance, the past experiment with a German CEO has not borne any fruit. But this is misgovernance. PIA can earn valuable foreign exchange for the government if managed properly. And given its potential and the state of Pakistan's economy, this should have been one of the highest priority projects.

Similarly for Steel Mills. Export of high quality steel or finished products can become a big source of dollars, but again the enemies of Pakistan are making every single effort to make sure that dollar revenues are denied to Government of Pakistan.

The current crisis is the perfect case for creating government owned enterprises that lead to both domestic job creation and exports earnings. Why is no attention being paid to this important aspect? And why is BKT taking a completely 180 degrees approach?

Dollar denominated excise and customs

Yet another source of dollars can be duties and taxes on imports that are denominated in dollars. This author does not have the necessary data regarding dollarization of the tax regime, but had this been implemented properly, we would see a generous revenue stream.

A regime focused on destruction

The reader should now have a fairly good idea of what good economic management would look like. Which immediately shows BKT's economic management as not just disastrous, but outright anti-Pakistan. Let us now discuss another false narrative - rising exports.

It is true that Pakistani exports are doing much better than before. But what is not being discussed is the loss of revenue. This is how the export model of many Pakistani companies is structured. They have sister companies in Western countries that finalize business deals. These sister companies then proceed to buy goods and services at cost from their local operations and sell them at a profit. Pakistan only receives the cost in dollars whereas the real profit is kept overseas. This author is not aware of any studies into the size of this revenue loss, but just this component can easily run into billions of dollars.

Similarly, Foreign Direct Investment, or FDI is pushed as a silver bullet, especially by IMF. But FDI can be a double edged sword. Without proper government oversight, FDI can lead to dollar outflows. It is for this reason that well managed countries have mechanisms for deep government oversight. Take a look at how the Australian government reviews foreign investment:


Conclusion

It should be abundantly clear to the reader that the Bajwa-Khan Traitorship has been installed by the enemies of Pakistan to further their agenda of economic and financial terrorism. Until and unless this nation learns to take its leaders to task and make them pay for their crimes, Pakistan will remain a joke in the eyes of the world. The common man will continue to suffer under exorbitant prices and lack of services. When will Pakistan wake up and rise?
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changed the title to an appropriate it.... keep it clean
 
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was going to delete the thread ...but allowed it to run ....
changed the title to an appropriate it.... keep it clean

You are probably one of the saner voices on the forum. Would love your input as well. Maybe I can have a mature discussion. Throw you best at me, criticize me, try to prove me wrong.
 
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Guys, I just recently watched a discussion between two very important religious scholars (one of them was Imran Nazar Hussein , I'm sure some of you would know him already).

The other person said in a response to a question that there were 3 plans against Pakistan, that anti Pakistan forces had planned. First was to physically dismember it, it failed after/ around 2012, when Pakistan was able to contain the menace of terrorism somewhat... Second one was to bleed it financially and economically, and that plan would die when IK's people leave. He didn't mention the third plan, my personal guess though is that eventually these forces would resort to materializing a full scale war between India and Pakistan, in the hopes of neutralizing our nuclear program.

I have great regard for the other personality, he is a spiritual scholar, and have been following him for the last ten years. He has also said that the next government/ setup would be a presidential democracy (you guys can call it danday wali sarkar). So the next setup would end our financial woes once and for all.

I don't blame IK, as he's just being a useful idiot in this whole thing, still unaware of the ground situation, surrounded by professional groups of flatterers.

I also don't blame Bajwa I think they too don't have any further ideas, as to what to do next.

I therefore agree with the idea of the article/OPs's post, that we are being bled economically through the current setup.

In a few months, things would further get out of hands economically, I think.
 
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Let's see. This country has already been divided once - fact. It was divided by the actions of they very top most leaders - fact. Riff raff from the East regularly reminisce on their role in that breakup and dream about a similar success - fact. Given this, we need to be extremely alert - quite logical. Now here is the thing - the average citizen doesn't sit in GHQ or PM's secretariat. Please give us complete and unrestricted access and we will talk hard facts. Since this won't happen, it is the responsibility of every citizen to examine the facts available and hold leaders accountable.

Having found nothing else to fault in what I am saying, you are now using the age old strategy to attack the facts. Facts, that I have put in OP, facts that I have discussed in the thread. These facts are enough to make any patriotic Pakistani extremely uncomfortable.

Here is another uncomfortable fact for you. Your army chief is on record saying:



Now let us collate this with another inconvenient fact. We were primed to support the fight against Taliban through the message that the Taliban are actually Hindus



And these Hindus are responsible for APS. So, this traitor Bajwa wants to forget APS, wants to forget the bomb blasts and killings done by Hindus and move forward?

Now please tell me that this fact does not show that Bajwa is a traitor of Pakistan who is in collusion with people wanting to do a repeat of 1971. I will save a picture of it for posterity.
How is promoting peace directly responsible for your conclusion that those are facts. Those are not facts, the temperature reading outside from a certified thermometer can be facts, people dying lf hunger in a third world country documented by multiple witnesses and photographs could be facts - however, your assertion that a messaging for peace overture which even the Quaid proposed prior to partition and then linking APS, 71 (lets link 1857 as well then!) is traitorous is ridiculous.

You can save pictures of it but as with any predictions, you have to be able to think on the opposite side as well.. what if you are wrong?
Let me quote @SQ8 for your convenience



Show me the pudding.
You’re the one saying its a pudding, Im saying you see eggs in one room and milk in another city but are calling it a pudding - there is no onus to convince you but rather refuting what you are asserting.
Let me use the same hypothesis along the same lines you’re presenting your case:

Any pdf member can plain see critical thought has been rallying against a government and military ever since it seemed that the Afghanistan issue would be resolved and India taken out of promoting terrorism in Pakistan - hence and I conclude that Critical Thought is a RAW agent set out to destabilize the country with his family running on CIA funds.

Nothing in the above is any less meritorious than the content of your posts.
 
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