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Financial terrorism committed by the Govt-Military duos

You are showing your utter cluelessness here. Because consumption led growth fuelled by debt IS capitalism itself.
Developing countries do NOT run such huge deficits they prioritize export led growth

The difference is that their debt is managed whereas Pakistan's debt has been mismanaged by economic hitmen
The people who mismanaged the debt were those who wasted them on subsidies and non productive government spending instead of investing it on cheap electricity and diverting it towards industries that earn us foreign exchange
And not just debt, but the very fabric of Pakistani society has been torn apart over decades by these Western appointed hitmen
You mean the guys sitting in Avenfield right now?
This has been the modus operandi on PDF by a certain group of so called 'economically educated' people to blame Pakistan for Pakistan's problems
The rulers of Pakistan are to be blamed for what happened here
It was an idiotic move to spend 5 billion usd just to keep consumption cheap
Turkey and Lebanon did the same thing look where it got them
Time to break this status quo and show the world the true image.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/22/bis-its-time-for-the-word-to-end-its-debt-fueled-growth-model.html
So U ok to fly with fake pilots?? I am not
He lives in Australia he doesnt have to fly with PIA
 
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So invested in defending the West that you will now try to show a China-West love relationship?
Do you have any idea how much investment US and EU have in China?
Like, at this very moment, the American military isn't planning and strategizing about winning a war in the South China Sea?
And yet Chinese exports to US are at an all time high? Why? Maybe because despite the political crisis between the countries the economic ties are still strong and EU is a different ball game with Eastern Europe being a major hub of Chinese investment
First the non-uniform reach because of 18th amendment.
All provinces except Sindh are ok with that
Again, please go and read OP which explains clearly how increasing the tax net for the purpose of paying back debt is a recipe for perpetual indebtedness.
So you would want us to default on our payment and plunge the country into chaos like in Lebanon ? Who taught you economics Izhaq Dar?
 
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Next time read it before telling others what to do, here let me help you out:

This is not the first time Pakistan has found itself on one of FATF’s list of not-so-good guys; the country was there in 2008 and from 2012 to 2015. https://www.dawn.com/news/1418143 Taken from Link you provided.

Yes, but did you try to understand what I am saying? Here, let me help you. The points in OP are slowly building up a case and are to be read in totality. The OP is collating the FATF and IMF developments by showing you a timeline which demonstrates a concerted, organized effort on multiple fronts. The result is economic enslavement of Pakistan which is being further supported through a detrimental policy of paying debt through taxes raised in local currency. Do you now understand?
 
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So U ok to fly with fake pilots?? I am not

You were quite OK before the minister went public with it. So, if the minister hadn't gone public, you would be OK? The fact is, you wouldn't have a clue. Now answer me this - given the negative effect it has on us, was it right to make it public, or would it be better to solve the issue internally?
 
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We were talking debt, and how Pakistan's debt has been mismanaged. One of the results of mismanaged debt is huge deficit. How is this even relevant to what we are discussing? You are simply reinforcing my points.

The people who mismanaged the debt were those who wasted them on subsidies and non productive government spending instead of investing it on cheap electricity and diverting it towards industries that earn us foreign exchange

Reinforcing my point.

You mean the guys sitting in Avenfield right now?

The very same ones along with the terrorist Altaf. Well, there is the traitor Musharraf in Dubai...

The rulers of Pakistan are to be blamed for what happened here
It was an idiotic move to spend 5 billion usd just to keep consumption cheap
Turkey and Lebanon did the same thing look where it got them

Reinforcing my point


Listen up mothafucka. Next time call your own dad a nigg*r. OK? And come back when the world has ended its debt fueled growth model.
Do you have any idea how much investment US and EU have in China?

And yet Chinese exports to US are at an all time high? Why? Maybe because despite the political crisis between the countries the economic ties are still strong and EU is a different ball game with Eastern Europe being a major hub of Chinese investment

All provinces except Sindh are ok with that

So you would want us to default on our payment and plunge the country into chaos like in Lebanon ? Who taught you economics Izhaq Dar?

Nobody taught you to read it seems. OP shows the alternative model. But it seems you also live in a cave because I need to explain to you that the increasing trade with China is due to the fact that there is no viable alternative.
 
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The very same ones along with the terrorist Altaf. Well, there is the traitor Musharraf in Dubai...
The Lahori traitor and his finance minister are protected by mi6
Listen up mothafucka. Next time call your own dad a nigg*r. OK? And come back when the world has ended its debt fueled growth model.
You dumb **** read what happened in Lebanon and what led Turkey into an economic crisis maybe you will understand what led us into this crisis
We were talking debt, and how Pakistan's debt has been mismanaged. One of the results of mismanaged debt is huge deficit. How is this even relevant to what we are discussing? You are simply reinforcing my points.
These things are interconnected you moron
 
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Go through the thread and see how much name-calling has been leveled on me. I only respond in self-defence.
We could do a post history to ascertain that but it also goes back to what I am stating - facts , the narrative being built that the current hybrid setup is completely selling out Pakistan as never before doesn’t come with anything more than angry name calling or this form of conjecture.

If there is such collusion to bring the country down and involves a vast conspiracy - it would be very difficult to hide it considering the number of people involved in the process.Even prior to cellphones or video cameras the agartala conspiracy was broken into fairly easily back in the 50s. So in today’s day and age of excess information, one has to be even more strict in sorting through facts and data available before drawing both wide and narrow conclusions .
 
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We could do a post history to ascertain that but it also goes back to what I am stating - facts , the narrative being built that the current hybrid setup is completely selling out Pakistan as never before doesn’t come with anything more than angry name calling or this form of conjecture.

If there is such collusion to bring the country down and involves a vast conspiracy - it would be very difficult to hide it considering the number of people involved in the process.Even prior to cellphones or video cameras the agartala conspiracy was broken into fairly easily back in the 50s. So in today’s day and age of excess information, one has to be even more strict in sorting through facts and data available before drawing both wide and narrow conclusions .

Let's see. This country has already been divided once - fact. It was divided by the actions of they very top most leaders - fact. Riff raff from the East regularly reminisce on their role in that breakup and dream about a similar success - fact. Given this, we need to be extremely alert - quite logical. Now here is the thing - the average citizen doesn't sit in GHQ or PM's secretariat. Please give us complete and unrestricted access and we will talk hard facts. Since this won't happen, it is the responsibility of every citizen to examine the facts available and hold leaders accountable.

Having found nothing else to fault in what I am saying, you are now using the age old strategy to attack the facts. Facts, that I have put in OP, facts that I have discussed in the thread. These facts are enough to make any patriotic Pakistani extremely uncomfortable.

Here is another uncomfortable fact for you. Your army chief is on record saying:

“We feel that it is time to bury the past and move forward,” the army chief said on the second day of the Islamabad Security Dialogue.

Gen Bajwa, while proposing peace with India, echoed Prime Minister Imran Khan, who had at the inaugural session called for resolving the outstanding disputes through dialogue and establishing ‘civilised neighbours’ like relations.

Now let us collate this with another inconvenient fact. We were primed to support the fight against Taliban through the message that the Taliban are actually Hindus

Many Urdu columnists still go to great lengths to explain that the Taliban came close to establishing a model Islamic state in Afghanistan - or that the Pakistani Taliban are not real Taliban, but Indian agents.

There is a set of gory pictures circulating on the internet claiming to support this argument.

The pictures show mutilated bodies of alleged Taliban, with their trousers pulled down to reveal their uncircumcised privates.

So they are clearly not Muslims, is the message.

And these Hindus are responsible for APS. So, this traitor Bajwa wants to forget APS, wants to forget the bomb blasts and killings done by Hindus and move forward?

Now please tell me that this fact does not show that Bajwa is a traitor of Pakistan who is in collusion with people wanting to do a repeat of 1971. I will save a picture of it for posterity.
 
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The Lahori traitor and his finance minister are protected by mi6

You dumb **** read what happened in Lebanon and what led Turkey into an economic crisis maybe you will understand what led us into this crisis

These things are interconnected you moron

Let me quote @SQ8 for your convenience

So, yes - the proof is in the pudding and right now what is being presented is eggs from one event, milk from another along with saying there musg be sugar too so it must be a pudding.

Show me the pudding.
 
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Do you always emphasize this neutrality? Do you always call out when some is being biased? No you don't. As a matter of fact, you have a history of pushing American supremacy in people's minds. So of course you take issue as soon as I point fingers at your master's puppets.



No it can't. There is a reason why I chose the words I used. You want some different words, write an article yourself.



You also have a history of quoting advertising material that glorifies the West. Of course IMF says all that about itself. But this is a thread for mature people to discuss the true motivation behind IMF's actions. I am sure you are aware of the concept of economic hitmen. Let me open the eyes of fellow Pakistanis.



Nobody is denying that Pakistan had a money laundering problem. But being the agent of West you are, you are dishonestly focusing on Pakistan's problems to make the case for Pakistan's enlisting on the gray list. So let me open your eyes and the eyes of others. Here is money laundering happening in Australia:

This article is from Jan 2021

This from Sep 2020

So why isn't Australia on the grey list? Because the Australian government doesn't go around telling the whole world 'We have a money laundering problem and the world is at risk from us'. It doesn't tell the world 'We have no clue at all how to identify and fight money laundering'. If any government does this, it is sure to land in the grey list. And Imran Khan made sure of it. Personally.



Because both traitors are on the same page on being slaves to their Western masters. Now face palm that. And OP along with my discussion on this thread are the exposé on their criminal nature.



Please do. Open people's eyes on the sordid deeds of leaders past and present. I have taken up the battle against the present ones, you can open another front if you like.
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Listen dear. I do question conspiracy theories, half-truths, and disinformation when I notice such in threads. I am not a paid truth-checker of PDF however, and have more pressing matters to attend to in life. I do not take issue with your posts on behalf of my alleged Master; you are casting me in wrong light because you have tunnel vision.

You have taken much liberty to take cheap pot shots at me in your response which is most unfortunate. I addressed you in good faith and to your benefit. This was in part due to the background situation of the thread. But it looks like that you are OK with being a laughing stock of the audience here. Fair enough.

Just one thing. This thread is not in dustbin and you are not banned yet (after the kind of response you gave to me) because of MY goodwill. Because I believe in Freedom of Expression as well. Because I see some intellectual capacity in you.

You do mind people taking pot shots at you but you forgot to extend the same courtesy to me here. Double standards?

Please carry on.

Best wishes.
 
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My point is simple. If you remember Ajit Doval last video which he was claiming that he dont trust Pakistani top generals. For a moment if you delete writer name from this article n write ajit Doval or arnab guswami name. You do understand what I am saying. Because the title shows how much this writer hates pak army n current administration. With out relising. Ik let alone destroyed Indian narrative which was built by india via European mis info lab in last 20 years. So I will advise him chill bro. Ik is there for next term
 
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Are you following my argument? I am saying the decades and decades of financial mismanagement is the work of economic hitmen, many of whom are sitting happily in London. It still doesn't reflect nicely on IMF. I mean, I talk to Australian born, Australian bred Western people and even they castigate the IMF. Who are you trying to fool here? The reason why there isn't a ton of people laughing at you is because there is a ton of idiots on this forum.


You are showing your utter cluelessness here. Because consumption led growth fuelled by debt IS capitalism itself. Please go to google and search for 'Total debt of America', 'Total debt of Japan', 'Total debt of Australia', and 'Total debt of Japan' just to give an example. The difference is that their debt is managed whereas Pakistan's debt has been mismanaged by economic hitmen. And not just debt, but the very fabric of Pakistani society has been torn apart over decades by these Western appointed hitmen. This has been the modus operandi on PDF by a certain group of so called 'economically educated' people to blame Pakistan for Pakistan's problems. Time to break this status quo and show the world the true image.
Simple point all of this. When you hold atomic or big army of 600k then your enemy dont attack with bombs n guns. They occupy you with corrupt people. Then those corrupt people traffic money out of country then your enemy launch next attack with financial companies likes of world bank imf FATF. Do you remember what Indian FM said about FATF. He said we Indian made sure via FATF that Pakistan stays in gray list. So buddy i want to give you Nobel prize for taking us as idiots.
 
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NOTE: This article includes suggestions about dealing in interest bearing instruments. Interest is Haram in Islam and the author abides by this Islamic teaching. Unfortunately, a discussion on the problems of Pakistan's interest based economy necessarily needs to include interest based solutions. The discussion on how to convert the economy to a non-interest one is out of the scope of this article, and beyond the capabilities of this author. More knowledgeable people and actual religious scholars are encouraged to inform everyone on this very important topic.

I have on many occasions criticized the Bajwa-Khan duopoly that has ensnared Pakistan within its heinous tentacles. I have maintained that this regime is taking Pakistan towards complete Western takeover and eventual secession into multiple independent countries. One important component of this heinous crime is financial subjugation of Pakistan. I feel the BKT (Bajwa-Khan Traitorship) has shown its true nature by perpetrating terrorist policies, and the time is now ripe to bare these policies in front of Pakistan.

First let us review the high level roadmap of BKT's malicious plan:

1. Circa April 2019 - Imran Khan accepts the existence of terrorists in Pakistan during visit to Iran, thus going against Gen Raheel's policy to deny the existence of terrorists within Pakistan. https://www.dawn.com/news/1477837

2. Circa May 2019 - Influence China to stop blocking the declaration of Maulana Masood Azhar as a global terrorist. https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/465278-un-to-declare-masood-azhar-a-global-terrorist-today

3. Circa June 2019 - Pakistan is put into the FATF gray list. https://www.dawn.com/news/1418143

So far, everyone can understand the anti-Pakistan machinations of these traitors. In this article, we shall discuss at length the more obscure parts of this plan:

4. Circa June 2019 - Pakistan agrees to IMF conditions that go against its national interests. The relevant program can be accessed here: https://www.imf.org/en/Publications...he-Extended-Fund-Facility-Press-Release-47092

5. Under the IMF program, a huge focus is given to increasing government revenue through tax collection. This has been a multi-year odyssey of the PTI government.

6. Under the IMF program, key financial positions are given to IMF agents. The Governor State Bank Raza Baqir, FBR Chairman Shabbar Zaidi, and Adviser later to be Finance Minister Hafeez Shaikh have all served in IMF or World Bank.

7. A superfluous strengthening of the Rupee is seen which is followed by a sudden drop.

8. A superfluous improvement in Current Account Deficit is seen which is followed by a sharp increase.

9. The agenda of privatizing key government entities is pushed.

10. No attention to flight/loss of capital in the name of 'exports'.

All the while, no one amongst Pakistan's intelligentsia and political elite has the motivation or capability to speak truthfully about the country's troubles and how to fix them. This gives a free hand to BKT to shamelessly tout their treason as economic growth and improvement.

In what follows, I will first explain the real problem being faced by Pakistan, and the actual solutions needed to fix them. It will be abundantly clear how BKT's policies amount to financial terrorism.

Dollars - Pakistan's biggest problem

Pakistan's biggest problem today is the dollar denominated debt that needs to be paid to the tune of approximately 10 billion dollars every year. Any sensible person would argue that Pakistan needs to generate dollars to pay back this debt. Instead, under IMF dictation, the sole focus is on revenue collection in Rupees. These need to be converted into dollars, thus weakening the rupee even further just by paying back debt. The practical outcome of this insidious policy is the strengthening of PKR when debt was temporarily suspended due to COVID. As soon as the COVID crises ended, the PKR lost that strength. This is exactly the IMF plan to keep a country forever indebted: by focusing on revenue collection in the vernacular currency, subjecting the country to exchange rate shocks when it is converted into dollars on the international market.

Instead of highlighting this fundamental problem and discussing solutions for it, BKT has built and controlled a false narrative around CAD (Current Account Deficit) and revenue generation.

So this is Pakistan's question to BKT terrorists: why are you forwarding IMF's agenda to keep Pakistan under ever increasing debt?

Earning dollars - The fix for Pakistan's problems

Let us discuss the means through which Government of Pakistan can earn dollars.

Holding US Treasuries

Economically powerful nations keep a part of their dollar reserves in the form of US Treasuries. Japan and China are two of the biggest holders of such bonds. The key benefit of holding T-Bills is that they are interest bearing. Instead of money sitting idle in the reserve, treasures generate more dollars, albeit the inflation adjusted outcome my still be negative. A sound economic policy must include treasuries within the reserve basket.

Investment through Sovereign Wealth Fund

The IMF supports the formation of 'Sovereign Wealth Fund' and has done a lot of work in the recent past to define acceptable practices around the management of such funds. This is one case where at least some Pakistanis have tried activism to raise awareness. Googling for 'Pakistan Sovereign Wealth Fund' brings up the page for an advocacy group that aims to free Pakistan from its current financial shackles. But under BKT leadership, no work has been done on this very important front.

The management of an SWF cannot be left simply in the hands of foreign managers. Pakistan needs professionals of highest caliber, who are also patriotic Pakistanis, to manage such a fund. But again, we find complete absence of policy and direction from BKT in creating the required human resource for this.

Careful investment by an SWF can be a powerful tool to earn dollars that can be used to pay off Pakistan's debts. The complete absence of Treasuries and SWF from BKT's economic plan shows either incompetence or subversion. In either case, this presents an extremely poor picture of BKT's three year tenure.

Government enterprises for exporting goods and services

This is a sordid chapter of BKT's reign. Imran Khan seems take an almost fetishistic interest in selling off PIA and Steel Mills. Thankfully, there is a PAF general heading PIA which has been the saving grace. Otherwise, Imran Khan's own minister has gone out of his way to ensure the demise of the national carrier:


The saga of the licenses of Pakistani pilots was a direct attack on Pakistan's economic well-being. Most people have been fed the propaganda of state run enterprises being inefficient. Be that as it may, there is nothing to suggest that state owned enterprises should also be inefficient. Unfortunately, in an environment of misgovernance, the past experiment with a German CEO has not borne any fruit. But this is misgovernance. PIA can earn valuable foreign exchange for the government if managed properly. And given its potential and the state of Pakistan's economy, this should have been one of the highest priority projects.

Similarly for Steel Mills. Export of high quality steel or finished products can become a big source of dollars, but again the enemies of Pakistan are making every single effort to make sure that dollar revenues are denied to Government of Pakistan.

The current crisis is the perfect case for creating government owned enterprises that lead to both domestic job creation and exports earnings. Why is no attention being paid to this important aspect? And why is BKT taking a completely 180 degrees approach?

Dollar denominated excise and customs

Yet another source of dollars can be duties and taxes on imports that are denominated in dollars. This author does not have the necessary data regarding dollarization of the tax regime, but had this been implemented properly, we would see a generous revenue stream.

A regime focused on destruction

The reader should now have a fairly good idea of what good economic management would look like. Which immediately shows BKT's economic management as not just disastrous, but outright anti-Pakistan. Let us now discuss another false narrative - rising exports.

It is true that Pakistani exports are doing much better than before. But what is not being discussed is the loss of revenue. This is how the export model of many Pakistani companies is structured. They have sister companies in Western countries that finalize business deals. These sister companies then proceed to buy goods and services at cost from their local operations and sell them at a profit. Pakistan only receives the cost in dollars whereas the real profit is kept overseas. This author is not aware of any studies into the size of this revenue loss, but just this component can easily run into billions of dollars.

Similarly, Foreign Direct Investment, or FDI is pushed as a silver bullet, especially by IMF. But FDI can be a double edged sword. Without proper government oversight, FDI can lead to dollar outflows. It is for this reason that well managed countries have mechanisms for deep government oversight. Take a look at how the Australian government reviews foreign investment:


Conclusion

It should be abundantly clear to the reader that the Bajwa-Khan Traitorship has been installed by the enemies of Pakistan to further their agenda of economic and financial terrorism. Until and unless this nation learns to take its leaders to task and make them pay for their crimes, Pakistan will remain a joke in the eyes of the world. The common man will continue to suffer under exorbitant prices and lack of services. When will Pakistan wake up and rise?

Not sure if it is specifically these two but Pakistan's ruling elites including the military have a corrupt history. The civilians and the military have both destroyed this country through corruption. Just one small example, the former President and COAS ZIA personally hand raising the Fat Corrupt Aloo called Nawaz Sharif and his whole family.
 
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