Fellow Pakistanis: Let's Turn LOC = IB ?

[Meengla]

[ Mods: Please don't delete this! Start a new one elsewhere if appropriate but we need to discuss this NOW].

Guys,
See this:
Military admits ‘shortcomings’ on Bin Laden intel – The Express Tribune
After hearing the first official response as in the above link, I feel that the generals of Pakistan, by deciding to give a stern warning to Americans today and by demanding a reduction in size of Americans officials inside Paksitan, have decided to continue with the hardening of stance since the Raymond Davis episode. Even the OBL fiasco has not changed that course.
The generals' response should put to rest all the theories about Pakistani direct help in the OBL operation. Yes, 'intelligence' was provided--but, of course, Americans want 'more'.

Read all the events leading from the Raymond Davis to OBL death. There was a hardening on both sides. That after 6 years of being in target Americans got OBL now is very significant.

So what should Pakistan do? We can debate the merits or the morality issues till the cows come home but, in my opinion, peace inside Pakistan and Afghanistan is not going to be established until Pakistan establishes peace with India. That will involve recognizing the Indian demand of converting the Line of Control in Kashmir to an International Border.

I know, it sounds desperate, perhaps 'unpatriotic'. But Pakistan cannot win a war against India-America combined especially after Pakistan has lost its image--despite so many sacrifices.

Let's make peace with India. Peace with honor for both Kashmir Pundits and Kashmiri Muslims. Make 'borders irrelevant', per Manmohan Singh himself.

Time to move on.

 

[A1Kaid]

Dur lanat...

 

[Leader]

mmmuahahaha.....

 

[SpArK]

That line is the root cause of all worries.

 

[mirage 5000]

i think agreement for this solution was ready long before but indian gov refuse to sign at final moments

 

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I'm glad pakistanis are starting to accept that India will not give an inch of land. Better to accept LoC as an international border than have another humiliating defeat.

I agree completely with you

India keeps Jammu & Kashmir as well as as Siachen

pakistan can keep "Azadi" Kashmir and Gilgit

However I doubt GoP will accept these terms, thus they'll keep digging their grave deeper.

 

[TheStrantrunCurve]

Quaid-e-Azam said it all "Kashmir is the Jugular vein of Pakistan and no nation or country would tolerate its Jugular vein remains under the sword of the enemy."

I dont think more explanation is needed

 

[Mirza Jatt]

i dont know about the views that other fellow Indian and pakistani members will behaving...but I really appreciate the courage of the TS to talk of this....I also a far sighted view.

 

[Yeti]

Will not work the jihadi state infrastructure remains intact in Pak held kashmir and the Punjab. Dismantle the training camps and close the hate filled madrasas and there might be a chance of lasting peace for whole of Kashmir. When you have idiots like geelani calling Osama a great muslim and a shaheed it does not help but only brings shame to Islam and all peacefull people of the world.

 

[Meengla]

i think agreement for this solution was ready long before but indian gov refuse to sign at final moments

So why did everything stop? I presume you meant while Musharraf was still the President? If so then it makes no sense: Zardari is supposed to be even more lenient toward India. Oh, Kayani, I guess!

 

[AvidSpice]

Give it a chance mates! Why wage war just for the sake of pride and ego? We aren't asking for your Kashmir. You keep that. We'll keep ours. 60 years of bloodshed and hate..all because of a single line. Very brave of you TS.

 

[AvidSpice]

Quaid-e-Azam said it all "Kashmir is the Jugular vein of Pakistan and no nation or country would tolerate its Jugular vein remains under the sword of the enemy."

I dont think more explanation is needed

Okay. So how you plan to take Kashmir?

 

[AvidSpice]

Double post.

 

[mirage 5000]

I'm glad pakistanis are starting to accept that India will not give an inch of land. Better to accept LoC as an international border than have another humiliating defeat.

I agree completely with you

India keeps Jammu & Kashmir as well as as Siachen

pakistan can keep "Azadi" Kashmir and Gilgit

However I doubt GoP will accept these terms, thus they'll keep digging their grave deeper.

we are not land hungry as indians dear.we just stand with kashmiris as they occupaid by force .lol at indian land we have enough thousands of KMs empty land .

 

[mirage 5000]

Double post......