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I know what a joke, even 2 years ago, China was getting aid.
Fellow Pakistanis: Let's Turn LOC = IB ?
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I know what a joke, even 2 years ago, China was getting aid.
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lol an achut(untouchabe) is talking about others!, go and clean the garbage of your brahmin masters, you are born from the feet of ram
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If creative solutions bringing peace, justice to Kashmiris and over a billion people of Pakistan, India, and Afghanistan is 'giving up' then you sure sound like you equate Kashmir with a territorial entity instead of a living, breathing place which has suffered a lot and which has also contributed to the suffering of much else.
This is not giving up! Ensure justice for Kashmiris. Ensure water rights. Ensure we leave Afghanistan alone. Nations are lines drawn in sand by men. And they what they are: Lines drawn in sand. More important is to give all chance for peace and prosperity instead of clinging on to hopeless, maximalist positions.
Study the various European wars. See how they fought and killed each other right through the middle of 20th century. They too had egos. They too had ethnic cousins here and there. They too had religious differences. Much worse than what India and Pakistan have. But look at them now. They cross the borders into the territories of their former enemies and just shrug their shoulders: What were we doing then?!
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well well well, from beggars to terrorists, well atleast our terrorists are not desparate enough to blow samjhota express, they are more meaningful terrorists then low life indian veggie terrorists
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Are you telling me that the poison you've absorbed from Pakistani textbooks is so deep that even here in D.C. you won't make the effort to discover the truth yourself?
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See the basic thing is people in both India and Pak need to realise that neither nation is giving up on its part of Kashmir for eternity come what may - and that is the truth.
The Indians have long reliased it, as seen from this thread, but the Pakistanis unfortunately no.
Unless there is a people level knowledge that India CANNOT be forced to part with its Kashmir, come what may, nothing can be changed - irrespective of few people like you.
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Every developing nation faces tht..... even india
Want me to post a zillion such problems facing india?
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A blog
also read my second post for the same report...and thats not a blog
So u added 100 million more poor and thn suddenly decreased poverty...
yes we did by our hard work not through beggin bowl...
read this from your own newspaper The nation..
Begging bowl diplomacy | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
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atleast our government brought guilty to book and there was impartial trail , unlike pakistan
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Every developing nation faces tht..... even india
Want me to post a zillion such problems facing india?
lol..please do...I'd love to show you the mirror with even more no of problems in Pakistan...
Matt Gurney: Pakistan can’t be trusted with nuclear weapons
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Matt Gurney May 2, 2011 – 10:47 AM ET | Last Updated: May 2, 2011 2:45 PM ET
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It will be a long time before every detail of the death of Osama bin Laden at the hands of U.S. special forces is known. Indeed, in the short term, much of the information that does come out must be taken with a grain of salt, as both the United States military, government and the Pakistani leadership have reasons to hide or misrepresent the facts of what was obviously a highly sensitive mission. But what we do know doesn’t look good on our so-called Pakistani allies: bin Laden wasn’t hiding in some dank cave, but was in fact living in a newly built mansion in an affluent Pakistani city, apparently within a 10 minute walk — a mere thousand yards — of a Pakistani military academy where the best of Pakistan’s officers are trained. And that’s not even to mention the three whole regiments of army troops that were also based in the city.
No one should doubt that there are honourable elements within the Pakistani government and security forces, who recognize the threat posed by Islamic radicalism and the benefits of aligning their country with the West. But there should be equally little doubt that however large those elements may be, they do not have full control of their country and its military forces. The government of Pakistan is divided up into competing factions, with their own agendas and plots against each other. This breeds instability and the risk of rapid shifts in the balance of power within Pakistan.
The military has typically been considered the most reliable, pro-Western element of the Pakistani power structure, in contrast with the thoroughly Islamist and pro-Taliban intelligence services and the weak civilian government trapped between them. But now we discover that the world’s most wanted man, the leading terrorist of our time, was living practically within shouting distance of a major Pakistani military facility in a heavily garrisoned city. That leaves us with two equally unpalatable possibilities: the military is either not as aligned with the West as we had assumed, or is simply incompetent.
Neither option is good. In recent years, major activity has been observed at many of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons facilities, as the country is believed to be both enlarging and modernizing its stockpile of nuclear warheads. Estimates as to the size of the Pakistani arsenal have now at least doubled to somewhere between one and two hundred bombs, and the bombs themselves are, thanks to modernization, becoming smaller and more powerful at the same time. It is likely that Pakistani nuclear weapons are now capable of achieving yields that would be measured in the hundreds of kilotons — many times more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in 1945, and certainly capable of hollowing out any major city.
Pakistan has repeatedly tried to reassure the world that its arsenal is safe and secure, and a 2008 U.S. Congressional report noted that the weapons are stored in secure underground facilities, unassembled, and separate from their launchers. But while that might sound comforting, the fact remains that the security of these weapons rests in the hands of those who somehow missed bin Laden’s mansion just down the street from their training facility, who receive their information from the same intelligence services that consider the Taliban a strategic asset, not an enemy.
It is obvious why Pakistan feels it needs nuclear weapons — only through their power can they hope to stave off an attack by the much more economically and military powerful Indians. They will never give them up. But the risk posed by leaving the ultimate weapon in such obviously unreliable hands cannot be overstated. For the sake of the world’s safety, we must hope that the United States keeps a close eye on where these weapons are stored, and is prepared to do what’s necessary to prevent them from ever falling into the wrong hands — even if that involves the rapid, surgical use of some of America’s own stockpile of nuclear warheads to destroy the bunkers where Pakistan keeps theirs.
Matt Gurney: Pakistan can’t be trusted with nuclear weapons | Full Comment | National Post
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Matt Gurney: Pakistan cant be trusted with nuclear weapons
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Matt Gurney May 2, 2011 10:47 AM ET | Last Updated: May 2, 2011 2:45 PM ET
AFP / Getty Images
It will be a long time before every detail of the death of Osama bin Laden at the hands of U.S. special forces is known. Indeed, in the short term, much of the information that does come out must be taken with a grain of salt, as both the United States military, government and the Pakistani leadership have reasons to hide or misrepresent the facts of what was obviously a highly sensitive mission. But what we do know doesnt look good on our so-called Pakistani allies: bin Laden wasnt hiding in some dank cave, but was in fact living in a newly built mansion in an affluent Pakistani city, apparently within a 10 minute walk a mere thousand yards of a Pakistani military academy where the best of Pakistans officers are trained. And thats not even to mention the three whole regiments of army troops that were also based in the city.
No one should doubt that there are honourable elements within the Pakistani government and security forces, who recognize the threat posed by Islamic radicalism and the benefits of aligning their country with the West. But there should be equally little doubt that however large those elements may be, they do not have full control of their country and its military forces. The government of Pakistan is divided up into competing factions, with their own agendas and plots against each other. This breeds instability and the risk of rapid shifts in the balance of power within Pakistan.
The military has typically been considered the most reliable, pro-Western element of the Pakistani power structure, in contrast with the thoroughly Islamist and pro-Taliban intelligence services and the weak civilian government trapped between them. But now we discover that the worlds most wanted man, the leading terrorist of our time, was living practically within shouting distance of a major Pakistani military facility in a heavily garrisoned city. That leaves us with two equally unpalatable possibilities: the military is either not as aligned with the West as we had assumed, or is simply incompetent.
Neither option is good. In recent years, major activity has been observed at many of Pakistans nuclear weapons facilities, as the country is believed to be both enlarging and modernizing its stockpile of nuclear warheads. Estimates as to the size of the Pakistani arsenal have now at least doubled to somewhere between one and two hundred bombs, and the bombs themselves are, thanks to modernization, becoming smaller and more powerful at the same time. It is likely that Pakistani nuclear weapons are now capable of achieving yields that would be measured in the hundreds of kilotons many times more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in 1945, and certainly capable of hollowing out any major city.
Pakistan has repeatedly tried to reassure the world that its arsenal is safe and secure, and a 2008 U.S. Congressional report noted that the weapons are stored in secure underground facilities, unassembled, and separate from their launchers. But while that might sound comforting, the fact remains that the security of these weapons rests in the hands of those who somehow missed bin Ladens mansion just down the street from their training facility, who receive their information from the same intelligence services that consider the Taliban a strategic asset, not an enemy.
It is obvious why Pakistan feels it needs nuclear weapons only through their power can they hope to stave off an attack by the much more economically and military powerful Indians. They will never give them up. But the risk posed by leaving the ultimate weapon in such obviously unreliable hands cannot be overstated. For the sake of the worlds safety, we must hope that the United States keeps a close eye on where these weapons are stored, and is prepared to do whats necessary to prevent them from ever falling into the wrong hands even if that involves the rapid, surgical use of some of Americas own stockpile of nuclear warheads to destroy the bunkers where Pakistan keeps theirs.
Matt Gurney: Pakistan can’t be trusted with nuclear weapons | Full Comment | National Post
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Matt Gurney May 2, 2011 – 10:47 AM ET | Last Updated: May 2, 2011 2:45 PM ET
AFP / Getty Images
It will be a long time before every detail of the death of Osama bin Laden at the hands of U.S. special forces is known. Indeed, in the short term, much of the information that does come out must be taken with a grain of salt, as both the United States military, government and the Pakistani leadership have reasons to hide or misrepresent the facts of what was obviously a highly sensitive mission. But what we do know doesn’t look good on our so-called Pakistani allies: bin Laden wasn’t hiding in some dank cave, but was in fact living in a newly built mansion in an affluent Pakistani city, apparently within a 10 minute walk — a mere thousand yards — of a Pakistani military academy where the best of Pakistan’s officers are trained. And that’s not even to mention the three whole regiments of army troops that were also based in the city.
No one should doubt that there are honourable elements within the Pakistani government and security forces, who recognize the threat posed by Islamic radicalism and the benefits of aligning their country with the West. But there should be equally little doubt that however large those elements may be, they do not have full control of their country and its military forces. The government of Pakistan is divided up into competing factions, with their own agendas and plots against each other. This breeds instability and the risk of rapid shifts in the balance of power within Pakistan.
The military has typically been considered the most reliable, pro-Western element of the Pakistani power structure, in contrast with the thoroughly Islamist and pro-Taliban intelligence services and the weak civilian government trapped between them. But now we discover that the world’s most wanted man, the leading terrorist of our time, was living practically within shouting distance of a major Pakistani military facility in a heavily garrisoned city. That leaves us with two equally unpalatable possibilities: the military is either not as aligned with the West as we had assumed, or is simply incompetent.
Neither option is good. In recent years, major activity has been observed at many of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons facilities, as the country is believed to be both enlarging and modernizing its stockpile of nuclear warheads. Estimates as to the size of the Pakistani arsenal have now at least doubled to somewhere between one and two hundred bombs, and the bombs themselves are, thanks to modernization, becoming smaller and more powerful at the same time. It is likely that Pakistani nuclear weapons are now capable of achieving yields that would be measured in the hundreds of kilotons — many times more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in 1945, and certainly capable of hollowing out any major city.
Pakistan has repeatedly tried to reassure the world that its arsenal is safe and secure, and a 2008 U.S. Congressional report noted that the weapons are stored in secure underground facilities, unassembled, and separate from their launchers. But while that might sound comforting, the fact remains that the security of these weapons rests in the hands of those who somehow missed bin Laden’s mansion just down the street from their training facility, who receive their information from the same intelligence services that consider the Taliban a strategic asset, not an enemy.
It is obvious why Pakistan feels it needs nuclear weapons — only through their power can they hope to stave off an attack by the much more economically and military powerful Indians. They will never give them up. But the risk posed by leaving the ultimate weapon in such obviously unreliable hands cannot be overstated. For the sake of the world’s safety, we must hope that the United States keeps a close eye on where these weapons are stored, and is prepared to do what’s necessary to prevent them from ever falling into the wrong hands — even if that involves the rapid, surgical use of some of America’s own stockpile of nuclear warheads to destroy the bunkers where Pakistan keeps theirs.
Matt Gurney: Pakistan can’t be trusted with nuclear weapons | Full Comment | National Post
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Matt Gurney: Pakistan cant be trusted with nuclear weapons
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Matt Gurney May 2, 2011 10:47 AM ET | Last Updated: May 2, 2011 2:45 PM ET
AFP / Getty Images
It will be a long time before every detail of the death of Osama bin Laden at the hands of U.S. special forces is known. Indeed, in the short term, much of the information that does come out must be taken with a grain of salt, as both the United States military, government and the Pakistani leadership have reasons to hide or misrepresent the facts of what was obviously a highly sensitive mission. But what we do know doesnt look good on our so-called Pakistani allies: bin Laden wasnt hiding in some dank cave, but was in fact living in a newly built mansion in an affluent Pakistani city, apparently within a 10 minute walk a mere thousand yards of a Pakistani military academy where the best of Pakistans officers are trained. And thats not even to mention the three whole regiments of army troops that were also based in the city.
No one should doubt that there are honourable elements within the Pakistani government and security forces, who recognize the threat posed by Islamic radicalism and the benefits of aligning their country with the West. But there should be equally little doubt that however large those elements may be, they do not have full control of their country and its military forces. The government of Pakistan is divided up into competing factions, with their own agendas and plots against each other. This breeds instability and the risk of rapid shifts in the balance of power within Pakistan.
The military has typically been considered the most reliable, pro-Western element of the Pakistani power structure, in contrast with the thoroughly Islamist and pro-Taliban intelligence services and the weak civilian government trapped between them. But now we discover that the worlds most wanted man, the leading terrorist of our time, was living practically within shouting distance of a major Pakistani military facility in a heavily garrisoned city. That leaves us with two equally unpalatable possibilities: the military is either not as aligned with the West as we had assumed, or is simply incompetent.
Neither option is good. In recent years, major activity has been observed at many of Pakistans nuclear weapons facilities, as the country is believed to be both enlarging and modernizing its stockpile of nuclear warheads. Estimates as to the size of the Pakistani arsenal have now at least doubled to somewhere between one and two hundred bombs, and the bombs themselves are, thanks to modernization, becoming smaller and more powerful at the same time. It is likely that Pakistani nuclear weapons are now capable of achieving yields that would be measured in the hundreds of kilotons many times more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in 1945, and certainly capable of hollowing out any major city.
Pakistan has repeatedly tried to reassure the world that its arsenal is safe and secure, and a 2008 U.S. Congressional report noted that the weapons are stored in secure underground facilities, unassembled, and separate from their launchers. But while that might sound comforting, the fact remains that the security of these weapons rests in the hands of those who somehow missed bin Ladens mansion just down the street from their training facility, who receive their information from the same intelligence services that consider the Taliban a strategic asset, not an enemy.
It is obvious why Pakistan feels it needs nuclear weapons only through their power can they hope to stave off an attack by the much more economically and military powerful Indians. They will never give them up. But the risk posed by leaving the ultimate weapon in such obviously unreliable hands cannot be overstated. For the sake of the worlds safety, we must hope that the United States keeps a close eye on where these weapons are stored, and is prepared to do whats necessary to prevent them from ever falling into the wrong hands even if that involves the rapid, surgical use of some of Americas own stockpile of nuclear warheads to destroy the bunkers where Pakistan keeps theirs.
Matt Gurney: Pakistan can’t be trusted with nuclear weapons | Full Comment | National Post
logically and practically this turning LOC into IB is the only solution available to both india and Pakistan.
whole talk about upholding morals and ideology is a thing of past. time has changed, world has moved on and redrawing of borders is out of fashion.
but the only problem in doing so for Pakistan is WATER! apparently india is blatantly violating the Indus water treaty. what guarantees would be there that india would not turn Pakistan into a water scarce country when LOC becomes IB ?
ofcourse indians would deny this violation issue but facts remain the facts that the rivers of Pakistan are dying due to indian violations. one does not need to have technical data to see this. mere natural vision is enough to see this phenomenon.
i personally would never trust indians, but than what other option does Pakistan have ?
but there are no winners in war, and we Pakistani's have not really been feeling safe (hint: abbotabad operation) even after spending more than 500 billion a year
why not spend that money on schools, roads, job creation, dams etc after achieving peace with india ?
whole talk about upholding morals and ideology is a thing of past. time has changed, world has moved on and redrawing of borders is out of fashion.
but the only problem in doing so for Pakistan is WATER! apparently india is blatantly violating the Indus water treaty. what guarantees would be there that india would not turn Pakistan into a water scarce country when LOC becomes IB ?
ofcourse indians would deny this violation issue but facts remain the facts that the rivers of Pakistan are dying due to indian violations. one does not need to have technical data to see this. mere natural vision is enough to see this phenomenon.
i personally would never trust indians, but than what other option does Pakistan have ?
but there are no winners in war, and we Pakistani's have not really been feeling safe (hint: abbotabad operation) even after spending more than 500 billion a year
why not spend that money on schools, roads, job creation, dams etc after achieving peace with india ?
Matt Gurney: Pakistan cant be trusted with nuclear weapons
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Matt Gurney May 2, 2011 10:47 AM ET | Last Updated: May 2, 2011 2:45 PM ET
AFP / Getty Images
It will be a long time before every detail of the death of Osama bin Laden at the hands of U.S. special forces is known. Indeed, in the short term, much of the information that does come out must be taken with a grain of salt, as both the United States military, government and the Pakistani leadership have reasons to hide or misrepresent the facts of what was obviously a highly sensitive mission. But what we do know doesnt look good on our so-called Pakistani allies: bin Laden wasnt hiding in some dank cave, but was in fact living in a newly built mansion in an affluent Pakistani city, apparently within a 10 minute walk a mere thousand yards of a Pakistani military academy where the best of Pakistans officers are trained. And thats not even to mention the three whole regiments of army troops that were also based in the city.
No one should doubt that there are honourable elements within the Pakistani government and security forces, who recognize the threat posed by Islamic radicalism and the benefits of aligning their country with the West. But there should be equally little doubt that however large those elements may be, they do not have full control of their country and its military forces. The government of Pakistan is divided up into competing factions, with their own agendas and plots against each other. This breeds instability and the risk of rapid shifts in the balance of power within Pakistan.
The military has typically been considered the most reliable, pro-Western element of the Pakistani power structure, in contrast with the thoroughly Islamist and pro-Taliban intelligence services and the weak civilian government trapped between them. But now we discover that the worlds most wanted man, the leading terrorist of our time, was living practically within shouting distance of a major Pakistani military facility in a heavily garrisoned city. That leaves us with two equally unpalatable possibilities: the military is either not as aligned with the West as we had assumed, or is simply incompetent.
Neither option is good. In recent years, major activity has been observed at many of Pakistans nuclear weapons facilities, as the country is believed to be both enlarging and modernizing its stockpile of nuclear warheads. Estimates as to the size of the Pakistani arsenal have now at least doubled to somewhere between one and two hundred bombs, and the bombs themselves are, thanks to modernization, becoming smaller and more powerful at the same time. It is likely that Pakistani nuclear weapons are now capable of achieving yields that would be measured in the hundreds of kilotons many times more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in 1945, and certainly capable of hollowing out any major city.
Pakistan has repeatedly tried to reassure the world that its arsenal is safe and secure, and a 2008 U.S. Congressional report noted that the weapons are stored in secure underground facilities, unassembled, and separate from their launchers. But while that might sound comforting, the fact remains that the security of these weapons rests in the hands of those who somehow missed bin Ladens mansion just down the street from their training facility, who receive their information from the same intelligence services that consider the Taliban a strategic asset, not an enemy.
It is obvious why Pakistan feels it needs nuclear weapons only through their power can they hope to stave off an attack by the much more economically and military powerful Indians. They will never give them up. But the risk posed by leaving the ultimate weapon in such obviously unreliable hands cannot be overstated. For the sake of the worlds safety, we must hope that the United States keeps a close eye on where these weapons are stored, and is prepared to do whats necessary to prevent them from ever falling into the wrong hands even if that involves the rapid, surgical use of some of Americas own stockpile of nuclear warheads to destroy the bunkers where Pakistan keeps theirs.
Matt Gurney: Pakistan can’t be trusted with nuclear weapons | Full Comment | National Post
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Matt Gurney May 2, 2011 10:47 AM ET | Last Updated: May 2, 2011 2:45 PM ET
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It will be a long time before every detail of the death of Osama bin Laden at the hands of U.S. special forces is known. Indeed, in the short term, much of the information that does come out must be taken with a grain of salt, as both the United States military, government and the Pakistani leadership have reasons to hide or misrepresent the facts of what was obviously a highly sensitive mission. But what we do know doesnt look good on our so-called Pakistani allies: bin Laden wasnt hiding in some dank cave, but was in fact living in a newly built mansion in an affluent Pakistani city, apparently within a 10 minute walk a mere thousand yards of a Pakistani military academy where the best of Pakistans officers are trained. And thats not even to mention the three whole regiments of army troops that were also based in the city.
No one should doubt that there are honourable elements within the Pakistani government and security forces, who recognize the threat posed by Islamic radicalism and the benefits of aligning their country with the West. But there should be equally little doubt that however large those elements may be, they do not have full control of their country and its military forces. The government of Pakistan is divided up into competing factions, with their own agendas and plots against each other. This breeds instability and the risk of rapid shifts in the balance of power within Pakistan.
The military has typically been considered the most reliable, pro-Western element of the Pakistani power structure, in contrast with the thoroughly Islamist and pro-Taliban intelligence services and the weak civilian government trapped between them. But now we discover that the worlds most wanted man, the leading terrorist of our time, was living practically within shouting distance of a major Pakistani military facility in a heavily garrisoned city. That leaves us with two equally unpalatable possibilities: the military is either not as aligned with the West as we had assumed, or is simply incompetent.
Neither option is good. In recent years, major activity has been observed at many of Pakistans nuclear weapons facilities, as the country is believed to be both enlarging and modernizing its stockpile of nuclear warheads. Estimates as to the size of the Pakistani arsenal have now at least doubled to somewhere between one and two hundred bombs, and the bombs themselves are, thanks to modernization, becoming smaller and more powerful at the same time. It is likely that Pakistani nuclear weapons are now capable of achieving yields that would be measured in the hundreds of kilotons many times more powerful than the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in 1945, and certainly capable of hollowing out any major city.
Pakistan has repeatedly tried to reassure the world that its arsenal is safe and secure, and a 2008 U.S. Congressional report noted that the weapons are stored in secure underground facilities, unassembled, and separate from their launchers. But while that might sound comforting, the fact remains that the security of these weapons rests in the hands of those who somehow missed bin Ladens mansion just down the street from their training facility, who receive their information from the same intelligence services that consider the Taliban a strategic asset, not an enemy.
It is obvious why Pakistan feels it needs nuclear weapons only through their power can they hope to stave off an attack by the much more economically and military powerful Indians. They will never give them up. But the risk posed by leaving the ultimate weapon in such obviously unreliable hands cannot be overstated. For the sake of the worlds safety, we must hope that the United States keeps a close eye on where these weapons are stored, and is prepared to do whats necessary to prevent them from ever falling into the wrong hands even if that involves the rapid, surgical use of some of Americas own stockpile of nuclear warheads to destroy the bunkers where Pakistan keeps theirs.
Matt Gurney: Pakistan can’t be trusted with nuclear weapons | Full Comment | National Post
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Lol ..... they r not slaves..... but people give them alms...
On the other hand 2 million kids die of starvation every year in india...
lol..please do...I'd love to show you the mirror with even more no of problems in Pakistan...
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