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By Kamran Yousaf
Published: February 27, 2018

ISLAMABAD:

Just days after the United States successfully managed to win the support of Financial Action Task Force (FATF) against Pakistan, a senior aide of the Trump Administration travelled to Islamabad on Monday for crucial talks.
Lisa Curtis, the senior director for South Asia and Central Asia at the National Security Council of the US met Foreign Secretary Tehmina Janjua at the foreign office. The visit remained low key as the foreign office spokesperson simply issued a tweet saying that Curtis met the foreign secretary.

Even the usual statement suggesting that the two sides discussed issues of mutual interests and bilateral ties was missing. This all suggested a new low in ties between the two countries and frustration on part of Pakistan for being placed on the global terror financing watch-list after the US moved a motion with the FATF.

US trying to ’embarrass’ Pakistan with terror financing list: minister

Little details were available as to what exactly had transpired during the discussions but some sources suggested the foreign secretary did raise the FATF issue and insisted that US move was ‘unjust’.

The inclusion of Pakistan in the ‘grey-list’ is seen as part of broader US strategy to pressurize Islamabad to do more in the fight against certain militant groups.

Discussions were candid and frank as Curtis – prior to joining the Trump administration – has authored a policy paper along with former ambassador to the US Hussain Haqqani suggesting a new approach towards Pakistan.

The new approach envisaged tough measures including seeking Pakistan’s international isolation if it continued to use militant groups as proxies to advance its strategic objectives.

The recent US move at the FATF appeared to be in line with that policy as Pakistan was even abandoned by its closest allies – China and Saudi Arabia.

A senior official while requesting anonymity confirmed that Pakistan would indeed be placed on ‘grey list’ from June. The challenge now is to avoid getting blacklisted, something that will have far more serious repercussions, the official admitted.

He said the FATF would now share a plan of action that Pakistan had to implement in order to address what it says ‘strategic deficiencies’ to curb terror financing.

Pakistan yet to receive list of actions to stay off FATF terror finance list

The official nevertheless insisted that the move was politically motivated and aimed at undermining Pakistan’s economic progress.

It is believed that FATF wants Pakistan to move decisively against certain groups including Hafiz Saeed’s charities as well as the Haqqani Network.

Pakistan has already amended the Anti-Terrorism Act allowing authorities greater powers to move against groups that are designated as terrorists by the UN Security Council under its resolution 1267.

The move that came just days before the FATF meeting in Paris made little impact on the final outcome of intergovernmental body’s meeting that sets global standards against the illicit finance.

Pakistan felt it was hard done by as the FATF placed it on the ‘grey list’ without the final assessment of a ‘mutual evaluation,’ which was “an unprecedented move,” lamented the official.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1645694/1-fatf-move-unjust-trump-aide-told/
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If Pakistanis have become so pussy that they can't even reply in some counter measures against this and just going defensive waiting to get humiliated....I am ashamed to be a Pakistani....

We are allowing them transit through our Territory (ground + air) and they are targeting our economy? in name of terror?...Send warning to them. ENOUGH. SPEAK NOW.
 
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If Pakistanis have become so pussy that they can't even reply in some counter measures against this and just going defensive waiting to get humiliated....I am ashamed to be a Pakistani....

We are allowing them transit through our Territory (ground + air) and they are targeting our economy? in name of terror?...Send warning to them. ENOUGH. SPEAK NOW

People at charge are defiantly pussies otherwise the could have at least asked to cut down the size of her embassies to normal.
 
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Similarities b/w Pakistanis and Turks

1. Both have strong formidable armies.
2. Both have great Geo-strategic locations.
3. Both are facing threat to get destabilize from neighbors
4. Both are US allies, hence on target of US ( I think Whenever Americans try to harm any country, they make them their ally especially if country is Muslim majority and then create problems for their "Ally" )

Difference b/w Turks and Pakistanis....

1. Turks never accept having passive defensive mindset unlike Pakistanis
2. Turks have strong civil leadership
3. Turks eliminate threat before it gets worse unlike Pakistanis.
4. Turks keep US on back foot regarding latter deficiencies unlike Pakistanis who never go on offensive
5. Turks blasted US openly for hosting Gulen, putting US on back foot....Pakistanis allowed Hussain Haqqani to join anti Pakistan lobbies and never objected....SHAME SHAME SHAME. We can't even make Gulen out of haqqani

Sometimes, I think our ruling government/leadership (military + civilians) should nuke themselves....No nuclear country has been so humiliated from Americans except probably North Korea...The difference was with all its lacking, North Korea doesn't show ant weakness at all to US...My respect to them

People at charge are defiantly pussies otherwise the could have at least asked to cut down the size of her embassies to normal.

Sir...If a common man like me can read/see the pussyness of our military/civilians....Imagine what Americans and probably Indians would be thinking...We are going to get screwed, if this behavior of them continues....

U just don't know how hard for me to control my anger on this.

@Taimoor Khan @Menace2Society @tps77 @xyxmt @Khanate
 
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Similarities b/w Pakistanis and Turks

1. Both have strong formidable armies.
2. Both have great Geo-strategic locations.
3. Both are facing threat to get destabilize from neighbors
4. Both are US allies, hence on target of US ( I think Whenever Americans try to harm any country, they make them their ally especially if country is Muslim majority and then create problems for their "Ally" )

Difference b/w Turks and Pakistanis....

1. Turks never accept having passive defensive mindset unlike Pakistanis
2. Turks have strong civil leadership
3. Turks eliminate threat before it gets worse unlike Pakistanis.
4. Turks keep US on back foot regarding latter deficiencies unlike Pakistanis who never go on offensive
5. Turks blasted US openly for hosting Gulen, putting US on back foot....Pakistanis allowed Hussain Haqqani to join anti Pakistan lobbies and never objected....SHAME SHAME SHAME. We can't even make Gulen out of haqqani

Sometimes, I think our ruling government/leadership (military + civilians) should nuke themselves....No nuclear country has been so humiliated from Americans except probably North Korea...The difference was with all its lacking, North Korea doesn't show ant weakness at all to US...My respect to them



Sir...If a common man like me can read/see the pussyness of our military/civilians....Imagine what Americans and probably Indians would be thinking...We are going to get screwed, if this behavior of them continues....

U just don't know how hard for me to control my anger on this.

@Taimoor Khan @Menace2Society @tps77 @xyxmt @Khanate
There Civilian leadership is not Ch@#A like ours tho our mill leadership not excellent but they are better.
 
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People at charge are defiantly pussies otherwise the could have at least asked to cut down the size of her embassies to normal.

If you say 'pussies' it is an understatement. Under the present circumstances it's outright treason not to kick out the indo-US dogs from Pakistan.
 
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Similarities b/w Pakistanis and Turks

1. Both have strong formidable armies.
2. Both have great Geo-strategic locations.
3. Both are facing threat to get destabilize from neighbors
4. Both are US allies, hence on target of US ( I think Whenever Americans try to harm any country, they make them their ally especially if country is Muslim majority and then create problems for their "Ally" )

Difference b/w Turks and Pakistanis....

1. Turks never accept having passive defensive mindset unlike Pakistanis
2. Turks have strong civil leadership
3. Turks eliminate threat before it gets worse unlike Pakistanis.
4. Turks keep US on back foot regarding latter deficiencies unlike Pakistanis who never go on offensive
5. Turks blasted US openly for hosting Gulen, putting US on back foot....Pakistanis allowed Hussain Haqqani to join anti Pakistan lobbies and never objected....SHAME SHAME SHAME. We can't even make Gulen out of haqqani


Good points regarding similarities and differences...Pakistan need to show some spine, some assertiveness if not aggressiveness...big power respects assertiveness, self esteem, self belief, strong stance and all things associated with it...and USA is known to bully you if you show weakness, diplomacy bordering on duplicity.

Turks are stronger people, they were never subjugated, never were under western influence or slavery, part of Pakistan were under the Raj...yes Pakhtuns, tribals, Balochs were never subjugated are fiercest fighters...we need these people at the top...I guess.

Sir...If a common man like me can read/see the pussyness of our military/civilians....Imagine what Americans and probably Indians would be thinking...We are going to get screwed, if this behavior of them continues....

U just don't know how hard for me to control my anger on this.


With the Trump, the pussygraber at the white house we can't be spineless, need to be worth the salt. Pussyness will embolden the 'grabber at the white house.
 
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Why we even entertained her as she is the real bitch and along with our former ambassador who laid down the Trump policy. She been bitching against us from the days of Bush and got bolder and bolder our time. Last years of Obama administration just watch her tirade against us on the you tube. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know her agenda against us. What a shameless lot we got at home.
 
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Similarities b/w Pakistanis and Turks

1. Both have strong formidable armies.
2. Both have great Geo-strategic locations.
3. Both are facing threat to get destabilize from neighbors
4. Both are US allies, hence on target of US ( I think Whenever Americans try to harm any country, they make them their ally especially if country is Muslim majority and then create problems for their "Ally" )

Difference b/w Turks and Pakistanis....

1. Turks never accept having passive defensive mindset unlike Pakistanis
2. Turks have strong civil leadership
3. Turks eliminate threat before it gets worse unlike Pakistanis.
4. Turks keep US on back foot regarding latter deficiencies unlike Pakistanis who never go on offensive
5. Turks blasted US openly for hosting Gulen, putting US on back foot....Pakistanis allowed Hussain Haqqani to join anti Pakistan lobbies and never objected....SHAME SHAME SHAME. We can't even make Gulen out of haqqani

Sometimes, I think our ruling government/leadership (military + civilians) should nuke themselves....No nuclear country has been so humiliated from Americans except probably North Korea...The difference was with all its lacking, North Korea doesn't show ant weakness at all to US...My respect to them



Sir...If a common man like me can read/see the pussyness of our military/civilians....Imagine what Americans and probably Indians would be thinking...We are going to get screwed, if this behavior of them continues....

U just don't know how hard for me to control my anger on this.

@Taimoor Khan @Menace2Society @tps77 @xyxmt @Khanate


Its the mind set.

Problem with Pakistan is, that we are ruled by libturd elite , who not only believe but sell this narrative that Pakistan is America ally and we cant do anything without the yanks. This mindset is unfortunately prevalent in high ups among the armed forces as well. You will find many, among the civil and military high ups who got liabilities with America in personal capacity.

I remember long time ago, I was watching this discussion on TV with this ex ISI chief, Javed Ashraf Qazi in the panel, and how he was justifying Pakistani support to yanks in this war of terror, citing our short comings. And now, this d|ckhead name is on ECL for corruption charges. When the deep state itself has been under the influence of such individuals with this mindset, we should expect worse to happen.

Pakistan cannot move forward unless it is firmly under the hold of ultra nationalist right wing leadership, both in civilian and military. The libturds cannot bring glory to Pakistan, only embarrassment.

This woman, Lisa Curtis, she needs to be publically flogged for her inbred hatred for Pakistan, let alone allowed her dirty foot inside the country. Who allowed her the audience?
 
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f uck this bitch should be blacklisted from ever entering pakistan not sure if she gets much attention though seen some of her anti-pak articles and gives me hope she's been called out her bias even by non-pakistanis lol also love how her pakistan discussion video has 0 views on youtube :rofl:
 
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Lisa Curtis nuff said and the fact that we are entertaining her, MY God the Pakistani government and incharge including the establishment has hit new low. I hope one day they are all hanged and this starts with noora and goes all the way down. Every corrupt traitor needs to be hanged.
 
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Nawaz Sharif cannot be blamed for this at all. Infact govt. cant be blamed much, its the ME that is at fault here. They are scared to be aggressive but keep on giving leverage and they are going to keep taking more and more from Pakistan
 
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Unjust person cannot complain anyone to be unjust with him.What goes round comes around.
 
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Lisa Curtis nuff said and the fact that we are entertaining her, MY God the Pakistani government and incharge including the establishment has hit new low. I hope one day they are all hanged and this starts with noora and goes all the way down. Every corrupt traitor needs to be hanged.

Pakistan is entertaining Lisa Curtis, Trump, and US because it has no choice.
 
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Pakistan is entertaining Lisa Curtis, Trump, and US because it has no choice.

As a sovereign nation, Pakistan always has a choice to do whatever serves its national interests.
 
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