fashion desinger frees a guy who molested a minor, gives him work. This is how he repays her later.

[Nityam]

The para you selected...You effectively missed out the remaining of the text:

I have already stated that, when compared with
Ronggopur, the number of prostitutes is exceedingly
small and their gains much less. They do not form
a kind of corporation as in that district, but almost
all of them openly profess themselves to be entirely of
the Muhammedan religion. The doctrine of caste is
so strictly observed that any Hindu of rank who had
a connection with a common woman would be in great
danger. It is therefore chiefly the Moslems by whom
such creatures are encouraged. Of course there are
a good many widows, or women whose husbands are
absent on service, that carry on intrigues, in which
they observe some secrecy but yet are pretty generally
known. These are however extremely careful to
confine their intrigues within the bounds of caste.
Such ladies are called Ghuskis. In the whole district
I heard of only two houses of the Hindu tribe called
Bamjani, the women of which are professed strumpets.
Most of the prostitutes are said to be purchased while
infants, from the northern parts of Dinajpur and
Ronggopur, and they are joined by very few widows
and still fewer maids of this district;


1) They profess to being Muhammedan...Next line does tell that Hindu rank is strict...Could that be the reason for professing something else?
2) So infants know they are Muslims?
3) You missed the remaining part and there are many other parts in the book which also talk about Hindu prostitution why select only this portion?
4) Religion of the maids and widows is not disclosed....

It clearly says the following.

1. Professional prostitutes are exclusively muslim women

2. Hindu widow who do this , only do it with members of their own caste (ghuski)

3. There was only two house in the entire district and they were of tribals called ramjani who did this with orphans.


Here are quotes from the rest of the book which you were asking for,

" The women who dance and sing, accompanied by music, are here usually called Bai, but in the dialect of Mithilia the set is usually called Garoch. They are more numerous than in Dinajpur, but inferior to those of Ronggopur in number, looks, and circumstances, and are all common prostitutes. They do not form a society so regular as tnose of the lust-mentioned district, and all profess to follow the doctrine of the Koran. "

 

[Dubious]

3. Sexuality, Obscenity, community women, muslims and the Hindu public in Colonial India, by Charu GUpta, page no. 273

Seriously?

 

[Nityam]

Seriously?

Charu Gupta is associate professor of history at the University of Delhi.

 

[Dubious]

It clearly says the following.

1. Professional prostitutes are exclusively muslim women

2. Hindu widow who do this , only do it with members of their own caste (ghuski)

3. There was only two house in the entire district and they were of tribals called ramjani who did this with orphans.

1) It doesnt say that
I posted word for word :
It says those who are prostitutes

Most of the prostitutes are said to be purchased while infants,

If MOST are claiming to be Muslims...That means infants know what it is to be Muslim? Or just that prostitutes know to evade from culture, law and traditions by just saying they are Muslims?

Yes, but you claimed that prostitution was part of Muslims....For which you got a warning...remember?

Charu Gupta is associate professor of history at the University of Delhi.

Yea, what can I do about it? Doesnt stop her from writing what she wishes to do so like you

 

[Nityam]

1) It doesnt say that
I posted word for word :
It says those who are prostitutes
If MOST are claiming to be Muslims...That means infants know what it is to be Muslim? Or just that prostitutes know to evade from culture, law and traditions by just saying they are Muslims?

Yes, but you claimed that prostitution was part of Muslims....For which you got a warning...remember?

As the text show, those infants were PURCHASED by muslims, brought up like muslims and then forced into prostitution.

You can play the "good muslim" , "bad muslim" game. I am not interested in just games that is so blatantly dishonest.


You issued me a warning claiming I am "trolling" while quoting history books.

That is your problem if anyone quoting history book and providing reference is "trolling". Maybe pdf deserves people like you that will "issuing warning" for quoting authentic history with authentic sources.

Those who made you a mod have to answer for that.


If it was really a "trolling" why are you shamelessly replying to that and trolling yourself ? So either I was not trolling or you too are violating forum rules and trolling.

Yea, what can I do about it? Doesnt stop her from writing what she wishes to do so like you

She is not a writer of fiction. She is a reputed professor of history from a reputed university.

 

[Dubious]

" The women who dance and sing, accompanied by music, are here usually called Bai, but in the dialect of Mithilia the set is usually called Garoch. They are more numerous than in Dinajpur, but inferior to those of Ronggopur in number, looks, and circumstances, and are all common prostitutes. They do not form a society so regular as tnose of the lust-mentioned district, and all profess to follow the doctrine of the Koran. "

Again Profess.....it comes best under hearsay...any decent historian would tell you!

 

[Nityam]

Again Profess.....it comes best under hearsay...any decent historian would tell you!

Like I said .... If I am trolling then why are you shameless enough to quote me ?

You have already issued me a warning for posting authentic history pages from original sources.

I have no intention of replying your absurd claims of "hear say" in a Book that was published over 200 years ago.

That author wrote an authentic report of all that he saw and his integrity is certainly FAR FAR above yours.

 

[Dubious]

As the text show, those infants were PURCHASED by muslims, brought up like muslims and then forced into prostitution.

Which page and paragraph does it say the name of the traders?

You can play the "good muslim" , "bad muslim" game. I am not interested in just games that is so blatantly dishonest.

You are being dishonest quoting only para which interest you about district that interest you from books that are based on hearsay! 1 of your chosen author (R. F. Burton) is even known to dress up as anyone to get away with anything and lie so how can we accept his account?

You issued me a warning claiming I am "trolling" while quoting history books.

I issued you the warning for showing "parts of a continuous account" based on hearsay and presenting it as fact!

That is your problem if anyone quoting history book and providing reference is "trolling". Maybe pdf deserves people like you that will "issuing warning" for quoting authentic history with authentic sources.

And we hit personal!

Read the forum rules...You will be warned for trolling!

Do you know the meaning of authentic?! 1 known deceiving liar is not authentic but questionable historian!

If it was really a "trolling" why are you shamelessly replying to that and trolling yourself ? So either I was not trolling or you too are violating forum rules and trolling.

This is called reasoning if you are adamant to trolling I have no problem banning you..would you prefer that?

She is not a writer of fiction. She is a reputed professor of history from a reputed university.

I rather a proper historian than those who are biased

As the text show, those infants were PURCHASED by muslims, brought up like muslims and then forced into prostitution.

The text doesnt show religion of the purchaser...Did you just imagine it or do I take this as trolling?

4. Challenging the rule of law, colonialism, Criminology and Human rights in India, page 31

This basically isn't even a "history book" nor "reference" for history!

 

[Nityam]

Which page and paragraph does it say the name of the traders?

You are being dishonest quoting only para which interest you about district that interest you from books that are based on hearsay! 1 of your chosen author (R. F. Burton) is even known to dress up as anyone to get away with anything and lie so how can we accept his account?

I issued you the warning for showing "parts of a continuous account" based on hearsay and presenting it as fact!

R.F. Burton does not need a "character certificate" from a hypocrite like you.

Since I have been warned for "Trolling" , I have no intention of replying to you and continue this "trolling".

I can only post "part of continuous account", otherwise I will have to post the whole book. Only a fool would make a comment like that.

Maybe you need a English dictionary to understand what is "hear say". For those educated enough to understand quoting first hand account and experiences is not "hear say".

And we hit personal!

Read the forum rules...You will be warned for trolling!

Nothing personal. You made your judgement call and I have made my judgement call.

You have to define "Trolling", since I only replied to a poster who was commenting on the muslim murderer who was also a child molester and quoting history. In repose I quoted more history, but with evidence and authentic sources.

If that is trolling, then you are certainly not worthy to be a mod of any kind since you are clearly ruled by emotion and not logic.

Do you know the meaning of authentic?! 1 known deceiving liar is not authentic but questionable historian!

First hand account is what is called authentic. But maybe among paksitani mods drunk on power and complex, has a new meaning and definition. But I am certainly not interested in knowing that.

This is called reasoning if you are adamant to trolling I have no problem banning you..would you prefer that?

I have no problem in getting banned. That would be the forums loss.

I rather a proper historian than those who are biased

Yes, the world of historians are begging for a character certificate from a pakistani forum moderator.

 

[Dubious]

R.F. Burton does not need a "character certificate" from a hypocrite like you.

No he didnt get one from me...Its on the internet...Kindly do read who you are raising to a worthy position!

Even then I did browse his book and showed you that you were "selectively quoting" which can be counted as trolling!

Since I have been warned for "Trolling" , I have no intention of replying to you and continue this "trolling".

Have a good day! I have other reports to deal with!

 

[Nityam]

No he didnt get one from me...Its on the internet...Kindly do read who you are raising to a worthy position!

Even then I did browse his book and showed you that you were "selectively quoting" which can be counted as trolling!

Have a good day! I have other reports to deal with!

Selective quoting is my privileged to highlight what I wanted to say.

Who are you to decide how much of a book I must quote ?

 

[Dubious]

Who are you to decide how much of a book I must quote ?

The mod of the forum

 

[Nilu Pule]

Typical sick Indian mentality. At least once in your life time try to resolves your social problems and these problems are nothing to do with religion

Don't shoot the messenger. If you can't accept the truth. Its your fault

 

[Dubious]

Then act like a mod. Not like a boy who has a chip on his shoulder.

I am...I didnt ban you but issued you a warning. I didnt ban you but I reasoned with you to see if you were trolling or not. THAT is what we mods do! MOST would just ban you...but you got the flow!

 

[Dubious]

You were unreasonable with me, not reasoning with me.

I was questioning you as to why these sources, why said section from the whole explanation and you still managed to make a story that the purchasers are Muslims...As a mod I can ask you to clarify what you write or I can issue you a warning and a ban...My choice based on your response...You can whine all you want! If you dont like it you can find another forum

In any case, you have already issued me a warning for posting uncomfortable truths from history. Its a good way to keep the folks ignorant and live in a fools paradise.

And you still want to whine about you not giving the full text? You still are lying that the purchasers are Muslims...I asked you to provide me the page number to the source!

Whenever trying to pass something as "HISTORY" try to give references if you want to be taken seriously otherwise your post will either be rendered a troll post or deleted for being off topic and if repeated issued a warning! Read the forum rules and happy posting!

You were unreasonable with me, not reasoning with me.

In any case, you have already issued me a warning for posting uncomfortable truths from history. Its a good way to keep the folks ignorant and live in a fools paradise.

Oh I also included @Horus in the warning so that he (being 1 of the admin) can also take notice of the situation...If you wish to appeal...You can open a whining thread on GHQ!