Fantasy frontiers :Indian, Pakistani and Chinese border disputes

[NeutralCitizen]

Kashmir is the Core Issue.

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hey CD if we end support to the Tibetan exiles and kick them out of India and send them back to China with the Lama would guys in return end support for Pakistan militarily and diplomatically?

They would maintain relations with Pakistan unless India gives China something Similar to Gwadar, remember now China has Strategic interest in Pakistan, Gwadar Port to bypass Malacca straits. however if India expels the Lama and the Tibetans, they could be a deal for India gives up Aksai for China giving up Tawang.

 

[Alchemy]

It is quite sad that you do not know the difference b/w ethnicity and religion! The comment should have been better placed with the following words "if Pakistan says Kashmir is Muslim majority region and hence belongs to them then the same holds good for the eastern side of Durand line which should be ceded to Pakistan by Afghanistan as they too are all Muslims".

But 1 problem at a time, we need to sort our our own issues before we start interfering in to matters that do not concern us.

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No. Simply because China considers Pakistan an asset against India, if there ever is need then I am sure China can exploit Pakistan against India.

Seriously ??? Is this the best your country can do . come on mate , have an independent policy else who knows China might just do that use and abandon you just like what Uncle sam is currently doing to you and done in the past !

Dont let other countries use you as an asset . only then you will be valued for what you are.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

Seriously ??? Is this the best your country can do . come on mate , have an independent policy else who knows China might just do that use and abandon you just like what Uncle sam is currently doing to you and done in the past !

Dont let other countries use you as an asset . only then you will be valued for what you are.

Didn't Pakistan vote for the UN resolution China was against.

 

[indianspetsnaz]

^^^ we won't expel Lama and Tibetan exiles for a status quo agreement both sides should accept that anyway irregardless of Pakistan or Tibet on the other hand China uses Pakistan as a smoke screen for India and we have the Tibetans which act as a somewhat thorn in China's side i doubt that China would take away one of its largest defense export markets and Gwadar is strategic for the string of pearls strategy on the other hand peace with China would mean our only threat would be Pakistan and China is a much bigger threat than Pakistan.

we need someone like Vajpayee to normalize relations with China perhaps his pupil Narendra Modi could do that.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

^^^ we won't expel Lama and Tibetan exiles for a status quo agreement both sides should accept that anyway irregardless of Pakistan or Tibet on the other hand China uses Pakistan as a smoke screen for India and we have the Tibetans which act as a somewhat thorn in China's side i doubt that China would take away one of its largest defense export markets and Gwadar is strategic for the string of pearls strategy on the other hand peace with China would mean our only threat would be Pakistan and China is a much bigger threat than Pakistan.

we need someone like Vajpayee to normalize relations with China perhaps his pupil Narendra Modi could do that.

Who knows the USA got rid of Pakistan and moved to India it could happen the Same way with China, J-20 sold to India ? China-India become growth Engines while Pakistan just ends up like another North Korea ?

 

[Omar1984]

So one can see India and Pakistan are on same side of issue as both recognise the borders drawn by British imperialist.

While China and Afghanistan are on same side as both refuse to recognise the Mcmohan line and Durand lines drawn by Britishers.

So if pakistan supports the claims made by China against India, it has to accept that durand line is also false (thereby giving pastoon dominated areas to Afghanistan), isn't it a complicated situation for Pakistan.

First of all comparing Afghanistan to China is the joke of the century.

Secondly, Pakistan also doesn't recognize the Durrand Line. We want this:

Thirdly, the Durrand Line like the Radcliffe Line dividing India and Pakistan is International Borders. Line of Control is not International Borders. Kashmir dispute can not be compared to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, there are no UN resolutions on Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and the international community recognize Khyber Pakhtunkhwa as part of Pakistan even Afghanistan didn't go to UN and declare Khyber Pakhtunkhwa as disputed and they wont because Pakistan can make their lives a living hell.

Good Luck with China

 

[NeutralCitizen]

BTW how much of a chance does Narendra Modi have at becoming PM ?

 

[beggingwalker]

BTW how much of a chance does Narendra Modi have at becoming PM ?

He is not decided as candidate for Pm till now but there are assumptions

 

[indianspetsnaz]

Who knows the USA got rid of Pakistan and moved to India it could happen the Same way with China, J-20 sold to India ? China-India become growth Engines while Pakistan just ends up like another North Korea ?

thats right anything can happen at one point Israel USA and Iran were all strategic allies then the 79 revolution made that nothing but history

 

[Omar1984]

Also if Pakistan says Kashmir is Muslim majority region and hence belongs to them then the same holds good for the eastern side of Durand line which should be ceded to Afghanistan for it is Pastoon majority area.

In that case Indian part of Punjab should also be part of Pakistan because Punjabis are the largest ethnic group in Pakistan.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

First of all comparing Afghanistan to China is the joke of the century.

Secondly, Pakistan also doesn't recognize the Durrand Line. We want this



Thirdly, the Durrand Line like the Radcliffe Line dividing India and Pakistan is International Borders. Line of Control is not International Borders. Kashmir dispute can not be compared to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, there are no UN resolutions on Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and the international community recognize Khyber Pakhtunkhwa as part of Pakistan even Afghanistan didn't go to UN and declare Khyber Pakhtunkhwa as disputed and they wont because Pakistan can make their lives a living hell.

Good Luck with China

Afghanistan Pakistan Union likely.

 

[indianspetsnaz]

BTW how much of a chance does Narendra Modi have at becoming PM ?

the pseudo-secularists and Muslims would even go nuts over him even being mentioned as a potential PM but with the Congress led UPA now having trouble with the public finding out about their corrupt scams the BJP has higher chances of winning in 2014 and since Modi's development of Gujarat is acclaimed and praised throughout India many may change their mind over having him as pm.

 

[NeutralCitizen]

thats right anything can happen at one point Israel USA and Iran were all strategic allies then the 79 revolution made that nothing but history

Key is trade and if you get Modi in power it seems. who knows Relations change overtime. India-China Trade $100 billion soon.

 

[beggingwalker]

In that case Indian part of Punjab should also be part of Pakistan because Punjabis are the largest ethnic group in Pakistan.

it seems that you are not happy that you got your part happily

 

[NeutralCitizen]

the pseudo-secularists and Muslims would even go nuts over him even being mentioned as a potential PM but with the Congress led UPA now having trouble with the public finding out about their corrupt scams the BJP has higher chances of winning in 2014 and since Modi's development of Gujarat is acclaimed and praised throughout India many may change their mind over having him as pm.

I was reading this it seems he has a good chance at becoming the PM and if he does it would Change South Asia and China-Relations.

Narendra Modi among BJP's PM candidates: Nitin Gadkari - Times Of India