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Fake propaganda by PMLN media cell. President Alvi has taken notice of notice of the statement wrongly attributed to him about the alleged help extend

My Great grandfather (mothers nana), my great-father (my fathers father), my Grandmothers brother (mothers mum), my great mothers brother (my fathers mother) were all in the army. My grandfather was the first person at the age of 16 to pass the army test in order to join from his village. My family goes back generations of service in the armed forces but I am ashamed of these generals and their games to the motherland throughout the years.

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@Horse_Rider Read this if youre not blind

n 2018, Army's choice was SS,
who the fuk is Army to decide whats best for People? Last i checked this is a democratic nation not fking Military dictatortship is it ?

his snake has no reason to be in Pakistani politics.
but the Hydra of GHQ has every reason to be in politics? are you brain dead or something that you dont understand what does the constitution of Pakistan says and what does Oath says when they join the Kakul ?
 
@Horse_Rider why do you want the army to fiddle in civilian government. Their job is to protect borders and the country. The army themselves is corrupted. How many businesses does the army control? Under Fauji Foundation? From cement to land holdings? No other professional army in the world gets involved in business or in the running of civilian governments. Are you so blind you cannot see this? How many more years do you need? Another 75?
Maybe the horse ‘rider’ has relatives in the army who are engaged in non- fauji activities hence why the ‘hot poker up the backside’ reaction whenever there is any criticism of the army..
 
I used to think AQK was the bad one selling nuc tech to the highest bidder, Iranians, Iraqis, Libyans, even Indians… when he was made to take the wrap we thought it was for the country.. but now it transpires that poor AQK was made the scapegoat by Musharraf to protect his fellow corrupt army generals who were involved in peddling nuc tech… from being exposed..
Hence the virtual house arrest.
Before the nuc prog was secret,US was struggling to get info on it. Now you don’t hear anything about it because most probably Bajwa and co. have compromised it to the extent that US and India can neutralize all assets whenever they wish.. and are now more focused on China..
I wouldn’t be surprised if Bajwa handed a suitcase full of info on numbers and locations, protective measures of all assets… in his last visit to the US…
 
@Horse_Rider Read this if youre not blind


who the fuk is Army to decide whats best for People? Last i checked this is a democratic nation not fking Military dictatortship is it ?


but the Hydra of GHQ has every reason to be in politics? are you brain dead or something that you dont understand what does the constitution of Pakistan says and what does Oath says when they join the Kakul ?
@Horse_Rider waiting for you answer on this
 
@Horse_Rider waiting for you answer on this

Your answer are dumb and stupid. Where did I say that Army needs to decide for the people of Pakistan :lol: :rofl:. So if you have comprehension issues and can't ask the question properly, give me more details and I'll craft an answer for you.

Your leader IK wants the dad Bajwa sb to come hold him and protect him and change his nappies too. The military is neutral, the country is now given to civilians. Your boss who pays you trolls is having a Mad Cow disease because he lost his seat. So what else was your question? :lol: It's funny, typical "You-thia" style. If you can't ask an educated question, leave the forum and just do "you-thia, thia like the Indian classical dance :enjoy:
 
PDM/PMNL media cell @muhammadhafeezmalik @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @Horse_Rider once again sharing fake news from corrupted media houses. No mention of falling of economy, weak PKR, exports down from these A Holes.

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Mazhar Abbas

@MazharAbbasGEO


President Arif Alvi did said former army chief Gen (r) Bajwa helped 'us' in 2018 elections. Since it was not my story i did not want to add more but may the President's spokesman clarified what was out of context in the story.


MAZHAR ABBAS WAS ALSO , THERE. ARIF DENTAL -MENTAL IS A LIER, JUST LIKE IMMI-THE DIM.

Do people HONESTLY think IK was some independent politician and didn't have Daddy Bajwa create him from nothing? In 2018, Army's choice was SS, he refused because he didn't want to go against his brother. Then came IK in the picture. Option B that was never supposed to be exercised.

Also, it's useless to even remotely think IK wasn't "created". Here's Q leagues statements about this a few days ago. No matter how many "feel good" statements can be created, the reality doesn't die. IK was military's plan B. We ALL know what a Plan B is! There is a pill in the West called Plan B. It's to stop harami children from being born!

IK is a snake, he bites whoever feeds him, NS gave him KPK, Tareen gave him tons of $$, Aleem gave him a lot of land and $$ and Bajwa sb made him a child IK wasn't and raised him. IK bit everyone of them and insulted the Army and establishment with it. This snake has no reason to be in Pakistani politics.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/1021435-stop-vilifying-bajwa-elahi-tells-pti


Stop vilifying Bajwa, Elahi tells PTI​

Pervaiz Elahi reveals establishment against dissolution of assemblies, claims Gen Faiz was “strongly against” him​


By Faizan Bangash & News Desk-
December 19, 2022



Chief Minister Punjab Pervaiz Elahi meets PTI Chairman Imran Khan in this undated picture. —APP
Chief Minister Punjab Pervaiz Elahi meets PTI Chairman Imran Khan in this undated picture. —APP
LAHORE: A day after the announcement of the date for dissolution of the Punjab Assembly by Imran Khan, his ally and Punjab Chief Minister Pervaiz Elahi on Sunday bashed him over his tirade against former army chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa (retd).
In a private TV channel interview on Sunday, he said that “Gen Bajwa gave many favours to us and the PTI. These favours should not be forgotten.”

Elahi said the PTI should “not be ungrateful”, adding that the former army chief “elevated the party’s stature from nothing” and supported the government on many international matters such as negotiating procurement of funds from Pakistan’s Arab allies or the International Monetary Fund.
“The PTI should not forget the favours given to it by Gen Bajwa; he helped them, he held meetings with Mohammad bin Salman, brought money from Qatar, handled the IMF matters in Belgium; he is Imran’s benefactor too,” added Pervaiz Elahi.
“When Imran Khan was sitting together and talking against General Bajwa, it felt very bad. Now if this happens, the whole party including me will speak. We would counter propaganda against the general. We are allies and not against Imran Khan and the PTI but we should not talk against him,” the Punjab chief minister said.
He disclosed that before Imran’s address, “We (Pervaiz Elahi, Moonis Elahi and Hussain Elahi) asked him not to speak against Gen Bajwa. But he committed a big mistake.”
The Punjab CM said, “Imran did a great wrong while criticising Gen Bajwa in my presence; he is our as well as Imran’s benefactor. If someone speaks against Gen Bajwa in future, I will be the first to react. What do they think of themselves? Have they descended from the heavens above?”
Pervaiz, while bashing Punjab government spokesperson Musarrat Jamshed Cheema and her husband over their comments against Gen Bajwa, angrily told them “stay in your limits.”
“They have made it a joke. Can a person be so ungrateful? To say whatever they want… stay within your limits. No one will say [anything more now],” the chief minister warned.
“I told [PTI Chairman Imran] Khan Sahib three months ago that Bajwa Sahib is ours, yours and PTI’s benefactor, so fear God and don’t speak against him.”
He said he had “felt very bad” about the entire situation but could not raise the issue since there were too many people and he could not have time for a personal meeting with Imran. “We will not tolerate this. He is our benefactor and we don’t hear anything against them,” Pervaiz added.
Since Gen Bajwa’s retirement, Imran has increasingly turned his criticism towards the former army chief and levelled a series of allegations against him.
The Punjab chief minister termed the country’s establishment more sensible than politicians, saying that it wanted the assemblies to complete their tenure, otherwise, Elahi added, it understands the economic crisis would deepen.
Speaking to a private TV channel, he revealed that the country’s Establishment was against the dissolution of Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) assemblies and wanted the Houses to complete their tenure.
Pervaiz also complained that “Imran never made Moonis a minister” and further launched allegations against former director general of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lieutenant General (retd) Faiz Hameed, saying that “he committed injustice with us every now and then to get us arrested.”
He claimed that Gen Faiz was “strongly against” him, alleging that the ex-ISI chief had called the National Accountability Bureau chairman at the time and told him to “arrest me and Moonis” around the time of Bajwa’s extension. “He crossed all limits,” Parvez said, adding that he had then called Gen Bajwa who ‘straightened Faiz out’. “He (Gen Faiz) was not resisting and then he said that there were orders from above, from Imran Khan,” Elahi added.
“So what is this treatment? When have we never supported Imran?” the chief minister questioned, adding that the PTI had “straightened” after the PML-Q’s support for the Senate elections and made Moonis a federal minister.
He said God had “created such a situation” around the PTI and Imran that even my detractors were saying that “if you (Imran) don’t make Chaudhry Sahib [the chief minister], then your party will be over… and the PMLN will come [to power].”
PUNJAB KA DAK-KOO, AUR PODINAY KA KHALIFA, DOONO BHAI-BHAI
 
Mazhar Abbas
@MazharAbbasGEO


President Arif Alvi did said former army chief Gen (r) Bajwa helped 'us' in 2018 elections. Since it was not my story i did not want to add more but may the President's spokesman clarified what was out of context in the story.


MAZHAR ABBAS WAS ALSO , THERE. ARIF DENTAL -MENTAL IS A LIER, JUST LIKE IMMI-THE DIM.


PUNJAB KA DAK-KOO, AUR PODINAY KA KHALIFA, DOONO BHAI-BHAI
Mazhar Abbas is correct and I have first hand witnesses on how PTI election workers were allowed into polling stations in Karachi by the Army while all others were thrown out.

However, the president is a decent man albeit out of his depth with the current situation. His statement isn’t really protecting PTi as it is the establishment,

PTI did not have the numbers nor the knowledge of how elections are manipulated by thuggery by PML(N) in Punjab so it needed the Army’s help to win.
 
Do people HONESTLY think IK was some independent politician and didn't have Daddy Bajwa create him from nothing? In 2018, Army's choice was SS, he refused because he didn't want to go against his brother. Then came IK in the picture. Option B that was never supposed to be exercised.

Also, it's useless to even remotely think IK wasn't "created". Here's Q leagues statements about this a few days ago. No matter how many "feel good" statements can be created, the reality doesn't die. IK was military's plan B. We ALL know what a Plan B is! There is a pill in the West called Plan B. It's to stop harami children from being born!

IK is a snake, he bites whoever feeds him, NS gave him KPK, Tareen gave him tons of $$, Aleem gave him a lot of land and $$ and Bajwa sb made him a child IK wasn't and raised him. IK bit everyone of them and insulted the Army and establishment with it. This snake has no reason to be in Pakistani politics.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/1021435-stop-vilifying-bajwa-elahi-tells-pti


Stop vilifying Bajwa, Elahi tells PTI​

Pervaiz Elahi reveals establishment against dissolution of assemblies, claims Gen Faiz was “strongly against” him​


By Faizan Bangash & News Desk-
December 19, 2022



Chief Minister Punjab Pervaiz Elahi meets PTI Chairman Imran Khan in this undated picture. —APP
Chief Minister Punjab Pervaiz Elahi meets PTI Chairman Imran Khan in this undated picture. —APP
LAHORE: A day after the announcement of the date for dissolution of the Punjab Assembly by Imran Khan, his ally and Punjab Chief Minister Pervaiz Elahi on Sunday bashed him over his tirade against former army chief Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa (retd).
In a private TV channel interview on Sunday, he said that “Gen Bajwa gave many favours to us and the PTI. These favours should not be forgotten.”

Elahi said the PTI should “not be ungrateful”, adding that the former army chief “elevated the party’s stature from nothing” and supported the government on many international matters such as negotiating procurement of funds from Pakistan’s Arab allies or the International Monetary Fund.
“The PTI should not forget the favours given to it by Gen Bajwa; he helped them, he held meetings with Mohammad bin Salman, brought money from Qatar, handled the IMF matters in Belgium; he is Imran’s benefactor too,” added Pervaiz Elahi.
“When Imran Khan was sitting together and talking against General Bajwa, it felt very bad. Now if this happens, the whole party including me will speak. We would counter propaganda against the general. We are allies and not against Imran Khan and the PTI but we should not talk against him,” the Punjab chief minister said.
He disclosed that before Imran’s address, “We (Pervaiz Elahi, Moonis Elahi and Hussain Elahi) asked him not to speak against Gen Bajwa. But he committed a big mistake.”
The Punjab CM said, “Imran did a great wrong while criticising Gen Bajwa in my presence; he is our as well as Imran’s benefactor. If someone speaks against Gen Bajwa in future, I will be the first to react. What do they think of themselves? Have they descended from the heavens above?”
Pervaiz, while bashing Punjab government spokesperson Musarrat Jamshed Cheema and her husband over their comments against Gen Bajwa, angrily told them “stay in your limits.”
“They have made it a joke. Can a person be so ungrateful? To say whatever they want… stay within your limits. No one will say [anything more now],” the chief minister warned.
“I told [PTI Chairman Imran] Khan Sahib three months ago that Bajwa Sahib is ours, yours and PTI’s benefactor, so fear God and don’t speak against him.”
He said he had “felt very bad” about the entire situation but could not raise the issue since there were too many people and he could not have time for a personal meeting with Imran. “We will not tolerate this. He is our benefactor and we don’t hear anything against them,” Pervaiz added.
Since Gen Bajwa’s retirement, Imran has increasingly turned his criticism towards the former army chief and levelled a series of allegations against him.
The Punjab chief minister termed the country’s establishment more sensible than politicians, saying that it wanted the assemblies to complete their tenure, otherwise, Elahi added, it understands the economic crisis would deepen.
Speaking to a private TV channel, he revealed that the country’s Establishment was against the dissolution of Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) assemblies and wanted the Houses to complete their tenure.
Pervaiz also complained that “Imran never made Moonis a minister” and further launched allegations against former director general of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Lieutenant General (retd) Faiz Hameed, saying that “he committed injustice with us every now and then to get us arrested.”
He claimed that Gen Faiz was “strongly against” him, alleging that the ex-ISI chief had called the National Accountability Bureau chairman at the time and told him to “arrest me and Moonis” around the time of Bajwa’s extension. “He crossed all limits,” Parvez said, adding that he had then called Gen Bajwa who ‘straightened Faiz out’. “He (Gen Faiz) was not resisting and then he said that there were orders from above, from Imran Khan,” Elahi added.
“So what is this treatment? When have we never supported Imran?” the chief minister questioned, adding that the PTI had “straightened” after the PML-Q’s support for the Senate elections and made Moonis a federal minister.
He said God had “created such a situation” around the PTI and Imran that even my detractors were saying that “if you (Imran) don’t make Chaudhry Sahib [the chief minister], then your party will be over… and the PMLN will come [to power].”
Stop believing Q league lies. The biggest mistake Imran Khan made was trusting these lotay.
 
Mazhar Abbas is correct and I have first hand witnesses on how PTI election workers were allowed into polling stations in Karachi by the Army while all others were thrown out.
really? which polling station. nothing like that happened in my locality. only party that was being properly monitored was MQM due to its history.
 
really? which polling station. nothing like that happened in my locality. only party that was being properly monitored was MQM due to its history.
Exactly, in 2013 elections MQM thugs were allowed to walk away with ballot boxes from man polling stations under Army's protection and in front of the whole world. Whereas the only difference in 2018 was that they were not allowed to do that again and PTI won fair and square.
 
Mazhar Abbas is correct and I have first hand witnesses on how PTI election workers were allowed into polling stations in Karachi by the Army while all others were thrown out.

However, the president is a decent man albeit out of his depth with the current situation. His statement isn’t really protecting PTi as it is the establishment,

PTI did not have the numbers nor the knowledge of how elections are manipulated by thuggery by PML(N) in Punjab so it needed the Army’s help to win.
Here is intellectual dishonesty ...Mazar Abbas said it was a friendly private gathering and we were asking questions to Mr. Alvi, it was not some press conference or formal meeting. All were in a relaxed mood and he also quoted many other points, which the media intentionally ignored.
 
Here is intellectual dishonesty ...Mazar Abbas said it was a friendly private gathering and we were asking questions to Mr. Alvi, it was not some press conference or formal meeting. All were in a relaxed mood and he also quoted many other points, which the media intentionally ignored.
That is the media and not whether or not the military supported PTI in 2018 and whether the president admitted to it or not
 

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