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Failed coup will give Erdogan justification to transform nation into Islamis

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In 1999, Turkish television aired footage of Gülen delivering sermons to a crowd of followers in which he revealed his aspirations for an Islamist Turkey ruled by Shari‘a (Islamic law) as well as the methods that should be used to attain that goal. In the sermons, he said:

You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here—[just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.

He continued,

When everything was closed and all doors were locked, our houses of isik [light] assumed a mission greater than that of older times. In the past, some of the duties of these houses were carried out by madrasas [Islamic schools], some by schools, some by tekkes [Islamist lodges] … These isik homes had to be the schools, had to be madrasas, [had to be] tekkes all at the same time. The permission did not come from the state, or the state's laws, or the people who govern us. The permission was given by God … who wanted His name learned and talked about, studied, and discussed in those houses, as it used to be in the mosques.[47]

In another sermon, Gülen said,

Now it is a painful spring that we live in. A nation is being born again. A nation of millions [is] being born—one that will live for long centuries, God willing … It is being born with its own culture, its own civilization. If giving birth to one person is so painful, the birth of millions cannot be pain-free. Naturally we will suffer pain. It won't be easy for a nation that has accepted atheism, has accepted materialism, a nation accustomed to running away from itself, to come back riding on its horse. It will not be easy, but it is worth all our suffering and the sacrifices.[48]

And, in yet another sermon, he declared,

The philosophy of our service is that we open a house somewhere and, with the patience of a spider, we lay our web to wait for people to get caught in the web; and we teach those who do. We don't lay the web to eat or consume them but to show them the way to their resurrection, to blow life into their dead bodies and souls, to give them a life.[49]

Many Gülen supporters and members of the Islamist media affiliated with the cemaat suggested the sermons were somehow forged[50] but the denials are unconvincing given the video footage and reports by Gülen movement defectors.
After reading Gullen sermon , seems very much inspired from Romi....
 
Romi? You mean Rumi? If yes then i have to disagree, the only thing i have seen in his speech is his greed for power.
Gulen wants to become our Khomeini...he is 10000000000000000000000 worse than Erdogan. The two arent comparable
 
You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here—[just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.
Thank god, they acted prematurely.....if you look at the Gülenists generals most of them are Tuğgeneral.....a few more years and we would have gülenist force commanders.

You know, there was a purge among police officers and judges prior to coup.....they must have felt like that they are in danger and activating the coup is the only way......

This is like a horror movie.....indoctrinating children...to use them after 40 years....Gülen's 40-50 years old plan, his massive efforts crushed on it's head in one night...he might not live long with this frustration.
 
Why are these guys pondering over 'secularism'?

Turkey is no longer held at gunpoint; it's people are free to align towards anything they believe in.

Secularism was forcefully enforced on Turkey by the West.
 
Thank god, they acted prematurely.....if you look at the Gülenists generals most of them are Tuğgeneral.....a few more years and we would have gülenist force commanders.
According to Hürriyet their ranks match with mid 80's, the years it was first noticed that gülen people are infiltrating the military by sending students into military schools.
The case is clear as the sky.

Why are these guys pondering over 'secularism'?

Turkey is no longer held at gunpoint; it's people are free to align towards anything they believe in.

Secularism was forcefully enforced on Turkey by the West.
Turks support secularism.

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Some of the African countries Islam is inexistent or a very small minority of Muslims...They can't be pro charia..

Isn't Shariah a Saudi invention? I have never recalled Algerian Islamic court ante 1830 talking about having people beheaded or amputated for crimes, even during the 132 years under colonialism..
 
Some of the African countries Islam is inexistent or a very small minority of Muslims...They can't be pro charia..
Read the foot note, in some countries only the muslim minority has been asked, would be strange if 42% of Russia supported sharia.
 
This is now so obviously a staged coup so that Erdogan can consolidate power. Look at all the purges. There's no way all those people were involved in a coup. He's just cleaning house on the way to becoming a theocracy like iran. Where is my proof ? My proof is .... I'm real smart. Hey, isn't Erdogan a muslim brotherhood dude ? BURQAS' FOR EVERYONE !!!!:ph34r:
 
This is now so obviously a staged coup so that Erdogan can consolidate power. Look at all the purges. There's no way all those people were involved in a coup. He's just cleaning house on the way to becoming a theocracy like iran. Where is my proof ? My proof is .... I'm real smart. Hey, isn't Erdogan a muslim brotherhood dude ? BURQAS' FOR EVERYONE !!!!:ph34r:
So, do you have any guess that when Turkey will turn into theocracy ?

Actually US backed Gülen scum would turn Turkey into Sunni version of Iran....
 

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