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Failed coup will give Erdogan justification to transform nation into Islamis

50,000 personnel now held over coup. Do they seriously think we believe that thousands of teachers were involved in this coup?

This is a purge and Turkey will become like ISIS.
 
Among the questions being asked are why coup plotters didn’t execute the most basic steps in seizing power, like securing Erdogan and other top officials.
Coup plotters, were going to start their operation in 03:00 am. They tried to seize general staff early in the night, gunfire broke out, police came immediately but denied access to compound. Police surrounded the compound and coup plotters had to start their operation prematurely. MIT was observing unusual movement within the military, all day long. They immediately warned president and president left the hotel.....after 15 minutes of his departure, coup plotters raided the hotel.

Nor did coup plotters effectively take control of TV, radio and internet outlets. The government TRT station and CNN Turk were for a time occupied by alleged coup plotters, who quickly retreated as the putsch fell apart.
Coup beginning prematurely and most the army didn't joined to coup plotters, they were short on man....considering the wast amount of TV channels...it was very hard for them to secure all TV channels.

Any reasonably organized coup attempt – and Turkey has a significant history of successful military coups over the years - would have made cutting off such communication a top priority, according to both advocates and deniers of the “staged coup” theory.
True, but in the previous coups, coups done by the whole military, not by a small faction. None of the force commanders and general staff joined with the coup plotters.

Coup plotters first tried to take control of the military then take control of the country and they had to do it prematurely.

Coup plotters also failed to secure most airports and other transportation hubs,
Coup beginning prematurely and most the army didn't joined to coup plotters, they were short on man.

didn’t occupy or attack Erdogan’s $600 million presidential palace,
Erdoğan was not in his palace. Although it got bombed (you can search for the footage) and a small number of coup plotters tried to raid the compound whom got killed by the presidential guards.

And failed to intercept his plane before, during or after he flew from one of the country’s busiest and most accessible airports back to Istanbul.
They faked his plane as a commercial plane. (Story is not very clear on this one. I think it would unfold in the upcoming days)

This despite the supposed active participation of top generals in Turkey’s Air Force, which maintains a fleet of F-16 aircraft easily capable of tracking, intercepting or – if it came to it – shooting down Erdogan’s plane.
%90 of the top generals of air force didn't involved in the coup.

CSAR helicopters raided a wedding ceremony of a high rank general in Istanbul which was attended by many generals. CSAR commandos kidnapped them.

attacking the mostly empty parliament building in Ankara,
Parliament building was not empty it was full of law-makers, you can search for footage in the YouTube.
occupying Ataturk International Airport but conveniently leaving in time for Erdogan to land his plane there
They didn't left but police and thousands of civilians raided the positions of coup plotters and wrestled back the control of the airport. Again there is lots of footage in the YouTube.

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This was the most dangerous thing that Turkey ever faced in it's history by far. Most of you are unaware but the coup had not been made by the Turkish Armed Forces but a faction within the military.

If the coup had been successful......I mean, the top general whom organized the coup were going to appoint himself as the general staff.....wonder who will be the president ? Fethullah Gülen.....and you would be looking to Islamic Republic of Turkey...Sunni version of Iran. So, be careful about what you wish for.
 
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This is a purge and Turkey will become like ISIS.


Having been to Turkey myself, I seriously doubt that. Turks are very proud of their secular credentials. They however will ferociously defend their nation from threats if it comes to that. When mingling with Turks, you always get this sense because of their love and pride for their state. In general Turks are more nationalistic than Islamic.
 
Everyone condemned the coup.

But after coup what this madman is doing in his country is truly shameful.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36842073

What Dean and Teachers did to get such punishment?Also,what about judges?did these people also took part in coup?Also,24 TV and radio station got closed?Pakistanis were protesting when India authority raided newspaper which fueled in the riot.I wonder where they've lost their voices now.
 
Everyone condemned the coup.

But after coup what this madman is doing in his country is truly shameful.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36842073

What Dean and Teachers did to get such punishment?Also,what about judges?did these people also took part in coup?Also,24 TV and radio station got closed?Pakistanis were protesting when India authority raided newspaper which fueled in the riot.I wonder where they've lost their voices now.
If you know nothing then talk nothing. Okay?
 
If you know nothing then talk nothing. Okay?

well,world wants to know what Erdogan knows...

For entire world,it looks like systematic cleansing of opposition.And its not what I'm saying,its what newspaper belongs to Turkey's allies are saying.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/fallout-continues-turkey-1.3686836

didn't know 21000 teachers took part in coup.Also sacking all deans??

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/turkey-bans-islamic-funerals-dead-8451940

vendetta??Even worse enemies deserve proper burial,doesn't it?

People are condemning what we're seeing.we've seen coup around the world.But this kind of reaction can be pretty easily categorized.
 
well,world wants to know what Erdogan knows...

For entire world,it looks like systematic cleansing of opposition.And its not what I'm saying,its what newspaper belongs to Turkey's allies are saying.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/fallout-continues-turkey-1.3686836

didn't know 21000 teachers took part in coup.Also sacking all deans??

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/turkey-bans-islamic-funerals-dead-8451940

vendetta??Even worse enemies deserve proper burial,doesn't it?

People are condemning what we're seeing.we've seen coup around the world.But this kind of reaction can be pretty easily categorized.
Its easy to categorize because you dont know the details. Im not patient enough to explain it again to hysteric foreigners like you. Here is my reply: we are doing what is necessary, and we dont give a shit what you think. Keep your nose out of it
 
Those who make comparisons btw Sisi Coup and Gulenist coup must know some realities.....


-Firts, both of two men sold their country, serve for emperyalists interests so both oh them trators....:

in Egypt innocent people had been punished and a democratically elected legitimate government had been toppled....

in Turkey, trators ant guilty persons have been punishing since they illegaly attemped to topple an democratically elected governmen...

in Egypt, no respect to human rights, no democracy....there is a junk justice and law system, severly tendentiousness and only protect supporters of military junta....still thousands people missing without any judge..

inTurkey, all democratic rules still works and everyone has legaly opportunity of advocate theirself....no any sencor on oppositon media institutions besides ones directly involved in booldy coup attempt...
 
Its easy to categorize because you dont know the details. Im not patient enough to explain it again to hysteric foreigners like you. Here is my reply: we are doing what is necessary, and we dont give a shit what you think. Keep your nose out of it


Only if Turkey practiced what they preach..

They poked their noses everywhere,and time bite them on their @rs3 this time.And whole world is laughing now.

And every "Dictator" uses,but for others,he is " the same justification to cover their sins.Erdogan may be lord to you guys,but for rest of the world,he is "The thinnest skinned president".
 
Everyone condemned the coup.

But after coup what this madman is doing in his country is truly shameful.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36842073

What Dean and Teachers did to get such punishment?Also,what about judges?did these people also took part in coup?Also,24 TV and radio station got closed?Pakistanis were protesting when India authority raided newspaper which fueled in the riot.I wonder where they've lost their voices now.
Read!

In 1999, Turkish television aired footage of Gülen delivering sermons to a crowd of followers in which he revealed his aspirations for an Islamist Turkey ruled by Shari‘a (Islamic law) as well as the methods that should be used to attain that goal. In the sermons, he said:

You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here—[just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.

He continued,

When everything was closed and all doors were locked, our houses of isik [light] assumed a mission greater than that of older times. In the past, some of the duties of these houses were carried out by madrasas [Islamic schools], some by schools, some by tekkes [Islamist lodges] … These isik homes had to be the schools, had to be madrasas, [had to be] tekkes all at the same time. The permission did not come from the state, or the state's laws, or the people who govern us. The permission was given by God … who wanted His name learned and talked about, studied, and discussed in those houses, as it used to be in the mosques.[47]

In another sermon, Gülen said,

Now it is a painful spring that we live in. A nation is being born again. A nation of millions [is] being born—one that will live for long centuries, God willing … It is being born with its own culture, its own civilization. If giving birth to one person is so painful, the birth of millions cannot be pain-free. Naturally we will suffer pain. It won't be easy for a nation that has accepted atheism, has accepted materialism, a nation accustomed to running away from itself, to come back riding on its horse. It will not be easy, but it is worth all our suffering and the sacrifices.[48]

And, in yet another sermon, he declared,

The philosophy of our service is that we open a house somewhere and, with the patience of a spider, we lay our web to wait for people to get caught in the web; and we teach those who do. We don't lay the web to eat or consume them but to show them the way to their resurrection, to blow life into their dead bodies and souls, to give them a life.[49]

Many Gülen supporters and members of the Islamist media affiliated with the cemaat suggested the sermons were somehow forged[50] but the denials are unconvincing given the video footage and reports by Gülen movement defectors.
 

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