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Failed coup will give Erdogan justification to transform nation into Islamis

Erdogan isn't an Islamist, lest we forget, he told the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to adopt secularism.

This is fear mongering at best. I know a lot of Turks have a problem with him, and rightly so, because Erdogan has done a lot of troubling things, but this article is nothing more than fear mongering.

Secularists, or Islamists, Muslims all say Allahu Akbar, but you'll never hear that from Fox News. To the average fox news reader, the only good muslim is an atheist, or a closet christian.
Erodgan is way more Islamist than you think but he is also way more smart. He knows the country he is ruling and Army he has to deal with so he is slowly and smartly bringing change.
 
In this speech did Erdogan said about Gulen " they are worst then shia " ? . Just asking nothing personal.

He says " They beat shia on this " , but I don't know in which speech he talks about it, about who, we need to listen whole speech for judging.
 
Erdogan....the $53 million dollar per year president. While his sheeple live on $30 a day.

http://en.mediamass.net/people/recep-tayyip-erdogan/highest-paid.html

Erdogan earns 10k $ for month, do the math. If you ask me it's even high price.
That cover is even fake , they just put an Erdogan photo on this, the orginal one,

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50,000 personnel now held over coup. Do they seriously think we believe that thousands of teachers were involved in this coup?

This is a purge and Turkey will become like ISIS.

Listen dude, we as Turkish posters here, try to explain the truth about our country, but personally I am exhausted about people's idiocy, why don't you do your own search? Learn some fvck before commenting or better go comment on somewhere else.

.It's revealed that Gulen's teachers have won the faculties with stolen test asnwers. They raise children with a sick mentality according to Gulen's wishes, so they have to be thrown away from children and schools. So they serve Gulen directly and help the coup indirectly.

And what 50000 personel ? Source?

Read!

In 1999, Turkish television aired footage of Gülen delivering sermons to a crowd of followers in which he revealed his aspirations for an Islamist Turkey ruled by Shari‘a (Islamic law) as well as the methods that should be used to attain that goal. In the sermons, he said:

You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here—[just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.

He continued,

When everything was closed and all doors were locked, our houses of isik [light] assumed a mission greater than that of older times. In the past, some of the duties of these houses were carried out by madrasas [Islamic schools], some by schools, some by tekkes [Islamist lodges] … These isik homes had to be the schools, had to be madrasas, [had to be] tekkes all at the same time. The permission did not come from the state, or the state's laws, or the people who govern us. The permission was given by God … who wanted His name learned and talked about, studied, and discussed in those houses, as it used to be in the mosques.[47]

In another sermon, Gülen said,

Now it is a painful spring that we live in. A nation is being born again. A nation of millions [is] being born—one that will live for long centuries, God willing … It is being born with its own culture, its own civilization. If giving birth to one person is so painful, the birth of millions cannot be pain-free. Naturally we will suffer pain. It won't be easy for a nation that has accepted atheism, has accepted materialism, a nation accustomed to running away from itself, to come back riding on its horse. It will not be easy, but it is worth all our suffering and the sacrifices.[48]

And, in yet another sermon, he declared,

The philosophy of our service is that we open a house somewhere and, with the patience of a spider, we lay our web to wait for people to get caught in the web; and we teach those who do. We don't lay the web to eat or consume them but to show them the way to their resurrection, to blow life into their dead bodies and souls, to give them a life.[49]

Many Gülen supporters and members of the Islamist media affiliated with the cemaat suggested the sermons were somehow forged[50] but the denials are unconvincing given the video footage and reports by Gülen movement defectors.

He will not read, mate. They believe what they want to believe
 
According to Hürriyet their ranks match with mid 80's, the years it was first noticed that gülen people are infiltrating the military by sending students into military schools.
The case is clear as the sky.


Turks support secularism.

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Not supporting Shariah Law doesn't necessarily mean that you support secularism. Most Muslims dont even know what true Shariah Law is.
 
Majority of Muslim want to implement Shariah from the tail , chopping,cutting and beheading..not by face of goodness, forgive and forget.
 
Read!

In 1999, Turkish television aired footage of Gülen delivering sermons to a crowd of followers in which he revealed his aspirations for an Islamist Turkey ruled by Shari‘a (Islamic law) as well as the methods that should be used to attain that goal. In the sermons, he said:

You must move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers … until the conditions are ripe, they [the followers] must continue like this. If they do something prematurely, the world will crush our heads, and Muslims will suffer everywhere, like in the tragedies in Algeria, like in 1982 [in] Syria … like in the yearly disasters and tragedies in Egypt. The time is not yet right. You must wait for the time when you are complete and conditions are ripe, until we can shoulder the entire world and carry it … You must wait until such time as you have gotten all the state power, until you have brought to your side all the power of the constitutional institutions in Turkey … Until that time, any step taken would be too early—like breaking an egg without waiting the full forty days for it to hatch. It would be like killing the chick inside. The work to be done is [in] confronting the world. Now, I have expressed my feelings and thoughts to you all—in confidence … trusting your loyalty and secrecy. I know that when you leave here—[just] as you discard your empty juice boxes, you must discard the thoughts and the feelings that I expressed here.

He continued,

When everything was closed and all doors were locked, our houses of isik [light] assumed a mission greater than that of older times. In the past, some of the duties of these houses were carried out by madrasas [Islamic schools], some by schools, some by tekkes [Islamist lodges] … These isik homes had to be the schools, had to be madrasas, [had to be] tekkes all at the same time. The permission did not come from the state, or the state's laws, or the people who govern us. The permission was given by God … who wanted His name learned and talked about, studied, and discussed in those houses, as it used to be in the mosques.[47]

In another sermon, Gülen said,

Now it is a painful spring that we live in. A nation is being born again. A nation of millions [is] being born—one that will live for long centuries, God willing … It is being born with its own culture, its own civilization. If giving birth to one person is so painful, the birth of millions cannot be pain-free. Naturally we will suffer pain. It won't be easy for a nation that has accepted atheism, has accepted materialism, a nation accustomed to running away from itself, to come back riding on its horse. It will not be easy, but it is worth all our suffering and the sacrifices.[48]

And, in yet another sermon, he declared,

The philosophy of our service is that we open a house somewhere and, with the patience of a spider, we lay our web to wait for people to get caught in the web; and we teach those who do. We don't lay the web to eat or consume them but to show them the way to their resurrection, to blow life into their dead bodies and souls, to give them a life.[49]

Many Gülen supporters and members of the Islamist media affiliated with the cemaat suggested the sermons were somehow forged[50] but the denials are unconvincing given the video footage and reports by Gülen movement defectors.


Nowhere I supported Gulen or the coup.

But a sane person can't support what followed the coup.

meanwhile...

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/21/europe/turkey-coup-emergency/

just as others predicted.
 
Post-coup attempt, Erdogan announces new Cabinet.

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None of the ministers, members of AKP or the opposition parties has been touched.

But foreigners keeps coming with these memes. :disagree:
 
They'll be blowing themselves up soon. ERDOGAN AKBAR !!!

It is actually the other way around. The opponents of Erdogan are licking the dust right now.
And Erdogan is enjoying complete authority.
 
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The opponents of Erdogan are kicking the dust right now.
Whom ?

Don't make up stuff. State of emergency doesn't widens President's authority but government's authority. To get rid of the gülenist traitors this is a must.
 
Erdogan's appeal to Islamists in wake of failed coup spurs fears for Turkey's future
Published July 18, 2016
FoxNews.com

Shouts of “Allahu Akbar” and sermons blaring from speakers continue to echo throughout the cosmopolitan districts of Istanbul in the wake of Friday’s failed military coup, creating a “surreal” scene and stoking fears a nation that remained proudly secular for the last century could be hurtling down the path to full-blown Islamic rule.

As the coup attempt unfolded, President Recep Tayip Erdogan rallied his supporters to the streets and squares of major cities. Long Erdogan’s base, the nation’s most fervent Muslims had steadily been moving from smaller cities and rural villages into the secular intellectual bastions of Istanbul and Ankara. His urgent call amid the coup attempt brought into sharp relief the cultural clash that defines Turkey’s past, and likely, some fear, its future.


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President Recep Tayip Erdogan's critics fear he is taking the nation toward Islamist rule. (The Associated Press)

“There was a truck with enormous speakers parked next to the main Ataturk statue, blaring first a sermon by an imam, during which everyone stood quietly with their hands held out,” said Paul Loomis, an American expatriate who was in Istanbul’s Taksim Square Saturday night. “Then the soundtrack switched to a `Recep Tayyip Erdogan’ chant set to a beat, and the crowd went wild.

“Religious fervor and support of Erdogan seemed to have fused into one,” he mused, calling the scene “surreal.”

The rhetoric of Erdogan, who has been prime minister or president of Turkey since 2003, has been increasingly religious in recent years and accompanied by crackdowns on the judiciary, the press and critics. In the wake of the failed coup, in which more than 250 people were killed, his government has detained nearly 6,000 military and judicial officials.

Critics who support the secular tradition begun in 1923 when Mustafa Kemal, the leader better known as Ataturk, founded Turkey from the ruins of the Ottoman Empire, fear the failed coup will give Erdogan all the justification he needs to transform the nation into an Islamist state.

Indeed, the presence of Koran-quoting, pro-Erdogan crowds in Taksim Square was seen by some as a symbolic step back from the freedoms and traditions that have long made Turkey an anomaly among Muslim nations. The Square includes Gezi Park, which in 2013 became a symbol of resistance to Erdogan’s growing authoritarianism as thousands took to the streets in protest of the government.

Other signs that Erdogan’s opposition had been turned included a mosque in Istanbul’s opposition stronghold Besiktas district, which was one of several relaying the president’s call on the faithful to “take to the streets to protect our country from the threat it is facing.”

For some, the impact of the sudden religious fervor was immediate. Selin Nurlu, who has lived in Istanbul, working for an executive search firm since completing her studies in London three years ago, said she made a conscious decision to dress more modestly in the hours following the coup attempt.

“I was going to wear what I would normally wear on Saturday when I was going to leave the house, which is a relatively short black dress,” said the 26-year-old. “But I decided not to at the end because I have no idea how people are going to react now. So, instead, I decided to put on my jeans despite the boiling weather.”

On social media, reports emerged of people attacking those drinking out in the streets in Istanbul’s traditionally secular district of Kadikoy. And even before the weekend’s events, there were signs that brazen mobs were already enforcing strict Islamist rule. A record shop launching a Radiohead album release in one of Istanbul’s hip neighborhoods, Cihangir, was attacked last month during Ramadan over rumors wine was being served during the holy month.

With city squares now filled with Islamist supporters of Erdogan, many who witnessed the 2013 uprising in which those same spaces were occupied by people calling for freedom are fearful.

“I don’t understand,” Duygu Cagdas, 32, said. “We have over 250 people killed, soldiers beaten in the streets, a parliament targeted by our own country’s jets, and yet we are taking to the streets to celebrate.”

Turkey’s Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said yesterday that “complete control around the country has been achieved” by the government, and cast the call to occupy city squares as the “people’s watch for democracy.”

“We will go on with our business and daily lives,” Yildirim said, “but we will not leave the squares at night. We will continue this watch for democracy.”



Iran 2.0 ? Can you say, 'Burqa' ?:ph34r:

Donald Trump? Can we say, "Bankruptcy" or is it to soon?
 
Sermons blaring from speakers continue to echo throughout the cosmopolitan districts of Istanbul in the wake of Friday’s failed military coup, creating a “surreal” scene and stoking fears a nation that remained proudly secular for the last century could be hurtling down the path to full-blown Islamic rule.

It's called "Sela" and it's nothing new.
- 1703, Edirne revolt, Sela has been given for 5 weeks.
- 1730, During the Patrona revolt, Sela has been given for days in Istanbul
- 14 December 1914, Jihad has been declared by the Ottoman Caliph and sela has been given for 24 hours all across the empire
- 1974, sela has been given continuously during the invasion of Cyprus.

Sela means "Your state is under attack, go outside and give the state a hand."

Again with the biased western media.
 

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