F-16 Justification---WHY?---ISPR

[MastanKhan]

Do you know better then whole institution?

Hi,

In my old age---I am getting a little slow---.

This same institution allowed a christian military to invade a muslim nation (afg ).

From that invasion---the re-invasion of iraq re-started---.

These same super stars that you think that they are---they wanted to make a vietnam of the US in afg---because the US kept the pakistani 650 mil dollars for the F16's---.

These same generals had no clue what happened to the vietnamese---about 4 million died obliterated---.

These same superstarts had no clue if the christian invaders found out how easy it was to kill the muslims---there would be no stopping---.

These superstars had no idea of what happens when the lion starts to feed on humans---.

If these so called warriors had any brains---they could have gone in and killed OBL in afg and handed over his dead body to the americans---and prevented a christian military to land in a muslim nation---.

 

[doorstar]

goddam janitor is at it again, playing at being a master tactician

They could have decimated as many as they could

first of all learn the meanings of the words you use

Decimated: killed 10% of an American client state's 10 or so aircraft (which comes to one plane, Pakistan killed at-least 2 the following day after preparing justification grounds for it and consulting a friend), then what? take on the sanctions followed by NATO bombardments?

what is the difference between letting go a 90% and 100%

anyways your adopted country had effectively forbidden Pakistan from retaliating because "india was defending itself by doing anti-terror strikes"

-Paf ROE should be to start shooting Iaf planes if they cross loc

try it again to see if they have changed the ROE. a few days back a Pakistani drone was flying somewhere along the border or LOC, 2 sukhoi came to intercept, they saw 2 f-16 coming and guess what sukhois did?

 

[raja786]

I must say ISPR is unnecessarily prolonging the issue. At the end you hope there is some purpose to it other than a coverup.

The image of missiles from Mig is not recent news. The downed Mig was with Pak all this time. They could have countered the Indian narrative on the first few days.

DGP might try to sound righteous now but there is lots of gaps in his narrative due his own contradictions on type of aircraft used and number of pilots captured.

This desperation from DGP ISPR makes me believe on that day Paf indeed lost an aircraft. There is sufficient video evidence of more than one parachute coming down that explicitly means that more than one aircraft went down in that battle.

Lessons learnt from the skirmish:
-Nukes mean f**k all. Iaf will cross LOC again if required.

-Paf ROE should be to start shooting Iaf planes if they cross loc

- Once bombed Pak will retaliate and Iaf/IA should be ready and not lower their guard.

So now ISPR should hire you and aske you what to say and how to deal with situation. You guys seem desperate to me to my understanding. DG is trooling India and you guys can't take it why. And yes let them Monkies come and try there luck. For next 20 years they will not think coming close to the border.

 

[Mace]

So now ISPR should hire you and aske you what to say and how to deal with situation. You guys seem desperate to me to my understanding. DG is trooling India and you guys can't take it why. And yes let them Monkies come and try there luck. For next 20 years they will not think coming close to the border.

Wow, looks like you have grown hair finally in the right places after feb. Didn't have anything to say since 2008??

India is in election mode. Balakot bombing enough for Modi to get back. DGP can cry/troll/sulk all he wants.

Lets have a chat about Iaf at border after another major incident like Pulwama. By the way if pressure piling tactics by India on Pak gets the results there will be no big incident like Pulwama again.

 

[LeGenD]

@MastanKhan

We live in the information age - not in the 1950s.

 

[Vortex]

Hi,

In my old age---I am getting a little slow---.

This same institution allowed a christian military to invade a muslim nation (afg ).

From that invasion---the re-invasion of iraq re-started---.

These same super stars that you think that they are---they wanted to make a vietnam of the US in afg---because the US kept the pakistani 650 mil dollars for the F16's---.

These same generals had no clue what happened to the vietnamese---about 4 million died obliterated---.

These same superstarts had no clue if the christian invaders found out how easy it was to kill the muslims---there would be no stopping---.

These superstars had no idea of what happens when the lion starts to feed on humans---.

If these so called warriors had any brains---they could have gone in and killed OBL in afg and handed over his dead body to the americans---and prevented a christian military to land in a muslim nation---.

MastanKhan I understand what you mean but we are not ready to do what you expect. We have so much internal weaknesses. Even if we have killed and handed over OBL, be sure USA would have found/fabricated another excuse to invade Afghanistan and killed so many people.

The planet Earth is a ring where East and West are fighting a boxing match and we Muslims are caught in the middle.

Be patient, sabr Ka phal mitha hota hay.
Maybe we will see it during our life, maybe next generations will see it.

Look at the Jewish people it took them 5000 years to become what they are today. They have gone through painful events but look how their patience worked.
Yes they know and we know too what will their fate at the end but still look how they worked.

 

[raja786]

Wow, looks like you have grown hair finally in the right places after feb. Didn't have anything to say since 2008??

India is in election mode. Balakot bombing enough for Modi to get back. DGP can cry/troll/sulk all he wants.

Lets have a chat about Iaf at border after another major incident like Pulwama. By the way if pressure piling tactics by India on Pak gets the results there will be no big incident like Pulwama again.

So wining elections is the main concern of Indian State, I hope Modi wins. And it seems Pakistan wants Modi to win, OR shall I say Allah wills it.
People like you only see front of the picture but there is also other angel to it. Just one of our ISPR instrument put the whole Indian machinery to shame.
I don't see India achieving any results from this misadventure, plz do enlighten me.
Since 2008 I have been busy in life and only came back to enjoy the party.

 

[Mace]

So wining elections is the main concern of Indian State, I hope Modi wins. And it seems Pakistan wants Modi to win, OR shall I say Allah wills it.
People like you only see front of the picture but there is also other angel to it. Just one of our ISPR instrument put the whole Indian machinery to shame.
I don't see India achieving any results from this misadventure, plz do enlighten me.
Since 2008 I have been busy in life and only came back to enjoy the party.

I will explain to you in simpler words. India is in election mode. DGP's tweets are just a waste of time and useless. Pak has served its purpose intentionally or unintentionally. Pulwama was the trigger, not Balakot.

I suggest DGP take a long vacation and come back after Indian elections are over when everyone will be in the mood to thank his fantastic tweets.

 

[raja786]

Hi,

In my old age---I am getting a little slow---.

This same institution allowed a christian military to invade a muslim nation (afg ).

From that invasion---the re-invasion of iraq re-started---.

These same super stars that you think that they are---they wanted to make a vietnam of the US in afg---because the US kept the pakistani 650 mil dollars for the F16's---.

These same generals had no clue what happened to the vietnamese---about 4 million died obliterated---.

These same superstarts had no clue if the christian invaders found out how easy it was to kill the muslims---there would be no stopping---.

These superstars had no idea of what happens when the lion starts to feed on humans---.

If these so called warriors had any brains---they could have gone in and killed OBL in afg and handed over his dead body to the americans---and prevented a christian military to land in a muslim nation---.

Don't forget USSR, to be honest I don't wana dig up history lesson, it's not the first time and won't be the last time when innocent Muslim blood will spill. To achieve great goals one has to sacrifice. Muslim history is full of sacrifice . Now give 10 years to these same people you will see the rise of this nation.
What you said in your post is not relevant anymore. Even if we have handed OBL Yanks had full plan to come. It wasn't Afghanistan they wanted. In few more weeks you will see why the yanks were here. Let them leave.
There are many things to understand and put them togather you will see the whole picture. I am not going to do that. Just for chill munch on this WE ARE SUPPERPOWER MAKING COUNTRY. We make and break things.

I will explain to you in simpler words. India is in election mode. DGP's tweets are just a waste of time and useless. Pak has served its purpose intentionally or unintentionally. Pulwama was the trigger, not Balakot.

I suggest DGP take a long vacation and come back after Indian elections are over when everyone will be in the mood to thank his fantastic tweets.

You need to wake up before it's too late. You think Pakistan had anything to do with Pulwama, not in million years. What would we achieve by killing 40 Indian personal. We give moral support to Kashmiri struggle. And very soon we will give another moral support to someone els.
I'll personally aske DG to take leave.

 

[MastanKhan]

MastanKhan I understand what you mean but we are not ready to do what you expect. We have so much internal weaknesses. Even if we have killed and handed over OBL, be sure USA would have found/fabricated another excuse to invade Afghanistan and killed so many people.

The planet Earth is a ring where East and West are fighting a boxing match and we Muslims are caught in the middle.

Be patient, sabr Ka phal mitha hota hay.
Maybe we will see it during our life, maybe next generations will see it.

Look at the Jewish people it took them 5000 years to become what they are today. They have gone through painful events but look how their patience worked.
Yes they know and we know too what will their fate at the end but still look how they worked.

Don't forget USSR, to be honest I don't wana dig up history lesson, it's not the first time and won't be the last time when innocent Muslim blood will spill. To achieve great goals one has to sacrifice. Muslim history is full of sacrifice . Now give 10 years to these same people you will see the rise of this nation.
What you said in your post is not relevant anymore. Even if we have handed OBL Yanks had full plan to come. It wasn't Afghanistan they wanted. In few more weeks you will see why the yanks were here. Let them leave.
There are many things to understand and put them togather you will see the whole picture. I am not going to do that. Just for chill munch on this WE ARE SUPPERPOWER MAKING COUNTRY. We make and break things.


You need to wake up before it's too late. You think Pakistan had anything to do with Pulwama, not in million years. What would we achieve by killing 40 Indian personal. We give moral support to Kashmiri struggle. And very soon we will give another moral support to someone els.
I'll personally aske DG to take leave.

Hi,

You muslim kids shock me so often that i get astounded at what I read---.

The mercies and help of Allah starts when you have done your job right---.

It is the obligation of a believer to act to the fullest---to do the job right to the maximum and then expect the results---.

So many of you have responded---even if we had killed OBL---the US military would have still come in---.

These are all excuses---and you people are full of them---.

The truth is---that pak military generals did not order the death of OBL---they did not go in and execute him---they never tried hard enough---.

What you people don't want to accept---is that the Pak generals fckd up big time---. They had no experience in dealing with the US---they had no experience in talking with the US---they had no experience in understanding what the US was saying---. And I am not even getting the politicians involved---they are the biggest nincompoops---.

These generals are the reason why we had sanctions in the first place---. These generals are the reason why our money for the F16's got stuck in the US---. These generals are the reason that the average pakistani hates the americans for putting sanctions on pakistan---because these generals lied to the pakistanis for all these years about the reasons for sanctions---. You got me riled up---.

@MastanKhan

We live in the information age - not in the 1950s.

Hi,

You have no information---only information you get is what is fed to you---.

And this information age technology was created by us---people of my age group---and we understand it better than you what is being fed to you---.


So---don't strut around like a peacock---.

 

[LeGenD]

Hi,

You have no information---only information you get is what is fed to you---.

And this information age technology was created by us---people of my age group---and we understand it better than you what is being fed to you---.


So---don't strut around like a peacock---.

Ufff itna ghusa...

What is the point of keeping people in the dark? Falsehood prevails under the shadow of secrecy.

And what kind of society it would be in which falsehood is prevalent? This kind of society risk turning into a delusional and paranoid pariah where the corrupt and powerful ESCAPE ACCOUNTABILITY and INTROSPECTION is not in the character of its people. This kind of society will never be productive in the long-term.

One of the things I like about the US (where you live) is how much they tend to disclose to the public from time-to-time. Keeping the public informed is the point.

National Guard = Civilians
Military Industrial Complex = Civilians
Universities = Civilians

Go figure.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Hi,

Pak military won the skirmish fair and square in battle---. There is no need for the ISPR to go out on a limb to justify every wrong that there is---.

The americans never told anyone if they had lost any aircraft during the 1st gulf war---.

Indians are masters at deceit---. They praise you of your successes---and if it was me---I would be wondering---where the next strike is going to come from---.

Since when did the indians become so magnanimous to admit to their defeat on the public forum---.

Nadeen F Paracha has summed up the Indian mndset very well

https://twitter.com/x/status/1114198952340000769

National Guard = Civilians
Military Industrial Complex = Civilians
Universities = Civilians

Go figure.

beg to disagree
the US society breaths and talks military.their retired officers get lucrative jobs back in the defence industrial complex.military drives the public opinion. its the most militarized society on the planet

but this is all irrelevant so lets take it for another time.

 

[Mentee]

@MastanKhan
A barber changed his cast and moved the area now he is big Malik, after 20 years all his kids believe they are maliks but one day his old neighbour appears and tells everyone that This Malik is a barber from his village with video proof. Thats what happend on 27th February. And now that same old neighbour telling the whole world this is not supper power but a billion chootiyas on Earth. And world is believing the neighbour.

Are you referring to Rehman Malik aka Mana Nai.

Why is it that the skilled stratum in the subcontinent has always been looked down upon and the dumb good for nothing bastards get titles of nobility conferred upon them - - - - - -?

Rehman Malik could be a corrupt to core scum but someone near to me witnessed how some big guns , "the realest, the baddest and the rarest breed of high birth", would sit and behave infront of this nai of an interior minster like a poodle.

 

[Riz]

Hi,

The ISPR is just getting embroiled in a useless justification of no F16's shot down or no F16's involved in the skirmish---.

It was not very intelligent of the ISPR to give details of what aircraft were used on Feb 27th and how they operated and what tactics were used---.

This information was related to operational intelligence---and there was no reason for it to be released to the public on a public forum and to the enemy---.

We have weapons system---we used our weapons systems---we destroyed enemy aircraft---and that was it---.

Nothing more should have been stated---no further information was needed.

The ISPR Gen Ghafoor---disclosed secret information on public forum---told the enemy publicly what we used---what our capabilities are---and how we used them---and the tactics involved---it seemed like if he was teaching a high school students class on how a game of cricket.

I am am literally astounded at the belligerent leak of highly secret tactical & operational information in such a callous manner---.

Secondly---the Sqdrn Leader leaks out the information of the aircraft that he shot down to his family and friends---.

It looks like Pakistan's national operational security means nothing---everyone who gets the opportunity is racing to be the first to release this information openly---without thinking of the consequences---.

Further---I do not see any reason at all---why the DG ISPR would take it upon himself to keep releasing the information on the no F16 usage or no F16's shot down---.

The enemy has moved forward to get better and potent weapons systems and our ISPR is entangled in justifying what we did or what we did not do---.

@Khafee @Irfan Baloch @Mentee

Actually we are only humiliating modi, as u know he is using terms ghus kar marain gay.. For his election win.. he is in big mess since FP revealed regarding pak F-16

 

[jzeebravo]

You take RD-93 out of the equation and Pakistan might have shared the footage of shooting down the RUSSIAN jets.