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F-16 deal expires amid Pakistan-US row over finances

Will Pakistan Surely reject F-16's...? Which will be next possible procurement...???


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I dont see any desire to put sanctions on Pakistan by the US in the near future. While American troops are in Pakistan, having sanctions on both immediate neighbors would put our troops in harms way. It is far more likely that Congress will continually cut aid which achieves the same objective without the breaking of ties which would put us in a big diplomatic bind.

As for paying full $700M, it is a cost benefit analysis. Will adding 8 F-16s really add much to the capabilities of a fleet of 76? No. But at $270M it will add more than it will cost you ($33M/aircraft). At $700M ($87.5M/aircraft) it is a different story. At that point, the minor improvement in capabilities is not worth the cost. Its that simple. It is not a question of if PAF has the money or not. IF they felt it was necessary, they would have found the money.
 
I don't think PAF will buy it with full price. It's simply not worth it.
well actually it is..
For a number of reasons.

HOWEVER if we go by logical reasoning, we better move on now!
 
At this time , not looking 2 or 3 farward,we dont have any threat by india in air superiority y? Becoz inda is also in a phase of modernization so if now we will move to next gen chinese aircraft by theses 700 + 1000 million more we can bet for chinese j 31 or be better j20 then we will again superior like 80 when we early gets f 16 so time to look forward not for just passing the time.because if we just pass the tuime then time will pass ourselves
 
-" we can go elsewhere---this is not the 90's ".
What is stopping you?

At this time , not looking 2 or 3 farward,we dont have any threat by india in air superiority y? Becoz inda is also in a phase of modernization so if now we will move to next gen chinese aircraft by theses 700 + 1000 million more we can bet for chinese j 31 or be better j20 then we will again superior like 80 when we early gets f 16 so time to look forward not for just passing the time.because if we just pass the tuime then time will pass ourselves
YaY..... Welcome to PDF...
 
Hi,

F 16 mafia.
There is no mafia but love situation. In 80s when we get F-16 Pakistani pilots went crazy about the new the most latest the most lethal machine in this subcontinent and they did it very well, what exactly happen those pilot got promoted and now in senior most positions but their love of the US machine never going to die, if you ask them they will defiantly opted for F-16. Our defense policy makers including Govt should interfere to get the required long range jets to defend our borders and sea ports.
 
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2 days are left right :D :D
I don't think so

http://www.dawn.com/news/1261205/f-16-deal-expires-amid-pakistan-us-row-over-finances

F-16 deal expires amid Pakistan-US row over finances
BAQIR SAJJAD SYED — UPDATED 6 MINUTES AGO

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan seems to have failed to seal the deal for the purchase of eight F-16 fighter jets from the United States following a row over financing.

The Pakistani government was required to provide the Letter of Acceptance for purchase of the jets by May 24, but a diplomatic source revealed that the document was not issued leading to expiry of the offer. “Pakistan decided not to fully fund the case with national funds, so the terms of sale have now expired,” the source told Dawn.

Initially, the $699 million deal for eight F-16C/D Block-52 multi-role fighters (2 C and 6 D models), was to be partially financed through the US Foreign Military Financing (FMF) programme, but Congress disallowed subsidising the sale over concerns that Pakistan had not done enough to end the Haqqani network’s sanctuaries on its soil as well as fears about Islamabad’s nuclear programme, particularly tactical weapons and the intermediate range Shaheen III missile.

Pakistan, which expected to get the fighters at the subsidised rate of $270 million, was subsequently asked by the US administration to make the full payment for the eight aircraft from its national resources. This was not acceptable to Pakistani authorities, who remained adamant that the offer must come without any preconditions.

The aircraft were required by Pakistan Air Force (PAF) for counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism operations. The additional jets would have enhanced the PAF’s capacity to sustain counter-terrorism operations by increasing aircraft availability and providing training opportunities for pilots transitioning to the Block-52 version. Furthermore, the aircraft would have come with ‘all-weather, non-daylight environments and self-defence/area suppression capability’.

It was unclear why Pakistan missed the opportunity despite pressing requirement for the jets, although it had originally desired to acquire 18 F-16s.

Some quarters believe that providing the Letter of Acceptance would have kept the window open for re-negotiating the financing arrangement at a later stage.

Pakistan’s Ambassador to US Jalil Abbas Jilani, talking to Dawn via phone from Washington, said “a dead-end has not been reached as yet”.

Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz said last month that Pakistan could look to buy the aircraft from some other country if the deal did not go ahead. Analysts believe Islamabad could consider Russian or Chinese fighters to meet its defence requirements.

Meanwhile, negotiations are also continuing with TUSAS Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) for the upgrade of 74 F-16 fighters currently serving in the PAF fleet. A Turkish team is due in Islamabad in July to continue discussions on the project. US consent would be required for the deal to materialise.

TAI had, under a 2009 agreement, previously upgraded 41 PAF aircraft to Block-52 standard. The last of the upgraded fighters were handed over to PAF in September 2014.

US had provided the needed parts, materials and technical data to TUSAS to upgrade the PAF jets.

Published in Dawn, May 28th, 2016
 
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan seems to have failed to seal the deal for the purchase of eight F-16 fighter jets from the United States following a row over financing.

The Pakistani government was required to provide the Letter of Acceptance for purchase of the jets by May 24, but a diplomatic source revealed that the document was not issued leading to expiry of the offer. “Pakistan decided not to fully fund the case with national funds, so the terms of sale have now expired,” the source told Dawn.

Initially, the $699 million deal for eight F-16C/D Block-52 multi-role fighters (2 C and 6 D models), was to be partially financed through the US Foreign Military Financing (FMF) programme, but Congress disallowed subsidising the sale over concerns that Pakistan had not done enough to end the Haqqani network’s sanctuaries on its soil as well as fears about Islamabad’s nuclear programme, particularly tactical weapons and the intermediate range Shaheen III missile.

Pakistan, which expected to get the fighters at the subsidised rate of $270 million, was subsequently asked by the US administration to make the full payment for the eight aircraft from its national resources. This was not acceptable to Pakistani authorities, who remained adamant that the offer must come without any preconditions.

The aircraft were required by Pakistan Air Force (PAF) for counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism operations. The additional jets would have enhanced the PAF’s capacity to sustain counter-terrorism operations by increasing aircraft availability and providing training opportunities for pilots transitioning to the Block-52 version. Furthermore, the aircraft would have come with ‘all-weather, non-daylight environments and self-defence/area suppression capability’.

It was unclear why Pakistan missed the opportunity despite pressing requirement for the jets, although it had originally desired to acquire 18 F-16s.

Some quarters believe that providing the Letter of Acceptance would have kept the window open for re-negotiating the financing arrangement at a later stage.

Pakistan’s Ambassador to US Jalil Abbas Jilani, talking to Dawn via phone from Washington, said “a dead-end has not been reached as yet”.

Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz said last month that Pakistan could look to buy the aircraft from some other country if the deal did not go ahead. Analysts believe Islamabad could consider Russian or Chinese fighters to meet its defence requirements.

Meanwhile, negotiations are also continuing with TUSAS Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) for the upgrade of 74 F-16 fighters currently serving in the PAF fleet. A Turkish team is due in Islamabad in July to continue discussions on the project. US consent would be required for the deal to materialise.

TAI had, under a 2009 agreement, previously upgraded 41 PAF aircraft to Block-52 standard. The last of the upgraded fighters were handed over to PAF in September 2014.

US had provided the needed parts, materials and technical data to TUSAS to upgrade the PAF jets.

Published in Dawn, May 28th, 2016
 
Seem trust deficit is increasing day by day. " Do more" mantra is now hate song in Pakistan establishment. Pak argument : lost 70,000 citizen of Pakistan and lost billions of dollar of investment......." do more " ....
 
Seem trust deficit is increasing day by day. " Do more" mantra is now hate song in Pakistan establishment. Pak argument : lost 70,000 citizen of Pakistan and lost billions of dollar of investment......." do more " ....
Pakistan has done enough and lost precious lives and money in the bargain. Better a honest foe than a devious friend.
 

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