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The deal is finally signed.

Pakistan-U.S. concludes F-16s deal

Pakistan and the United States have concluded the much-publicized deal of F-16 fighter planes, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) said on Monday.

"The ongoing negotiations regarding F-16s have culminated in the signing of letter of acceptance between the governments of Pakistan and United States of America on 30 September, 2006 at Rawalpindi," a PAF statement said.

"The package includes the supply of 18 new F-16s, upgraded used F-16s, up-gradation of the present Fleet of PAF F-16s, air to air and air to ground weaponry and other support infrastructure," the statement said.

"Subsequent to the signing of letter of acceptance, the supply of aircraft and weapons to Pakistan will take place in due course of time," it said.
Reports said that the deal is part of a 5 billion U.S. dollars arms package for Pakistan which includes F-16 fighter jets and an assortment of air and ground weaponry.

The Bush administration has received congressional approval for selling 18 new F-16 jets to Pakistan.

http://english.people.com.cn/200610/03/eng20061003_308389.html
 
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With all the same capabilities and technology as IAF - there is very little chance that the IAF would gain substantial air superiority in Pakistan.

There is no chance of the IAF attaining airsuperiority over Pak. territory with these new additions. However unless the PAF is silly enough in conflict to try and hit Indian targets within India they should do quite well.

However the problem remains that with the large gulf in land forces particulary in artillery that the PAF might be forced to conduct too much ground attack at the expense of primary role of airdefence and hence suffer high attrition.

What Pak. military needs is more self propelled artillery to free the PAF to focus more on air defence without undue concern.
 
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There is no chance of the IAF attaining airsuperiority over Pak. territory with these new additions. However unless the PAF is silly enough in conflict to try and hit Indian targets within India they should do quite well.

However the problem remains that with the large gulf in land forces particulary in artillery that the PAF might be forced to conduct too much ground attack at the expense of primary role of airdefence and hence suffer high attrition.

What Pak. military needs is more self propelled artillery to free the PAF to focus more on air defence without undue concern.

True we can prob build pl-45 sp artillery under liscense from china but I think right know the govt is more focused on the AF and Navy. Dont forget we also have alot of BM's and cruise missiles. PA's doctrine of artillery use is much different from that of the IA in which we require more mobile artillery pieces
 
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Dont forget we also have alot of BM's and cruise missiles.

Cruise missiles and Ballistic missiles are very poor substitutes for Artillery. Ballistic missiles are close to useless when armed with conventional warhead and contrary to your claim there are very few Babur's that would actually be in service as of now.

More attack helicopters might be useful but they are very expensive and would have to be imported when artillery can be produced domestically.
 
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Cruise missiles and Ballistic missiles are very poor substitutes for Artillery. Ballistic missiles are close to useless when armed with conventional warhead and contrary to your claim there are very few Babur's that would actually be in service as of now.

More attack helicopters might be useful but they are very expensive and would have to be imported when artillery can be produced domestically.


Pakistan last year said it would start mass producing the babur which it prob already has. CM are very easier to make than BM's and also alot cheaper.

Yes pakistan artillery division is in a ok state but needs to be better this can only be done with the procurement of more 110 and 155mm guns and pl-45 sp guns under liscense production
 
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aoa,
i want to know what is the version of radar is it APG-68(V)9 if so then what is the range and other speecifications??????
Allah Hafiz
 
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aoa,
i want to know what is the version of radar is it APG-68(V)9 if so then what is the range and other speecifications??????
Allah Hafiz
The radar is APG-68(V9); unfortunately I cannot find any specs - maybe someone else can.
 
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i needed to know abt the specifications can anyone help!
 
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Performance of Flight-testing of Apg-68(v9):

Performance Flight-Testing of Updated Radar Under Way for Lockheed Martin F-16; New Technology Expected to Significantly Increase Radar Performance

FORT WORTH, Texas, June 25 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The U.S. Air Force
has begun flight-testing a new version of the radar for the Lockheed Martin
F-16C/D aircraft that will significantly improve the aircraft's performance in
air-to-air and air-to-ground operations.

The F-16 is built by Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., a business area of
Lockheed Martin Corp. (NYSE: LMT).

The Northrop Grumman APG-68(V)9 radar, the latest version of the F-16C/D radar, is being flight tested at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., and thus far, is meeting or exceeding all of its performance specifications.

Changes to this new version are considered more significant than all
previous upgrades combined, both in terms of magnitude and capability. There are significant improvements in detection range, resolution, growth potential, and supportability. Furthermore, application of advanced processing
techniques enhances the radar's ability to operate in dense electromagnetic
environments and resist jamming.

"The APG-68(V)9 radar is a defining feature of the advanced Block 50/52
F-16 version," said John L. Bean, vice president of F-16 Programs. "We are
pleased with the radar's development progress to date and think the customers receiving it will thoroughly appreciate its performance and features."

The improved air-to-air capabilities and features of the V9 radar compared
to the current V7/8 production versions include:

-- 30 percent increase in detection range
-- Improvements in false alarm rate and mutual interference
-- Four versus two tracked targets in the Situation Awareness mode
(a search-while-track mode)
-- Larger search volume and improved track performance in Track While
Scan mode
-- Improved track performance in Single Target Track mode.

Air-to-ground improvements include:

-- Two-foot resolution in new Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) mode
-- Increased detection range in Sea Surveillance mode
-- Improved target detection and map quality in Ground Moving Target
Indication mode.


The new radar takes advantage of current commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) technology, both hardware and software, which provides a 5X increase in processing speed and 10X increase in memory compared to the current APG-68 production radar. In addition to the new and expanded radar capabilities, the capacity of the new processors provides large growth potential.

This technology is expected to provide a 50 percent increase in radar
reliability to nearly 400 hours mean time between failure. Use of COTS also
resolves existing issues with availability and cost of repair parts, commonly
referred to as Diminishing Manufacturing Sources.

The radar features an inertial measurement unit (IMU) on the radar
antenna, as required for the SAR capability. The IMU also improves dynamic
tracking performance and provides an "auto-boresight" capability. The latter
improves antenna pointing accuracy in general and eliminates the need for
time-consuming mechanical boresighting maintenance.

"The improved capabilities of the (V)9 radar will greatly enhance the
mission effectiveness of the F-16," said Major Jim Dutton, (V)9 radar project
pilot with the 416th Flight Test Squadron at Edwards Air Force Base.

Northrop Grumman is under contract to Lockheed Martin Aeronautics to
develop and produce the V9 radar. Development testing of the radar began in
July 2001 on Northrop Grumman's flying test bed, a modified BAC1-11, at its
facilities in Baltimore, Md. This testing will continue through 2003 to
include some staged improvements.

F-16 APG-68(V)9 radar integration testing, being conducted at Edwards AFB by the F-16 Combined Test Force, began in December 2001 and will continue for several customers through 2003. Initial F-16 flight testing is being
performed on a modified Block 50 F-16C belonging to Greece.

As of the end of May, 18 flights and 29 flight hours of radar testing have
been accomplished on the F-16. SAR testing on the BAC1-11 is going well, and SAR integration and requirements verification testing will be conducted on an F-16 starting in July and completing this fall.

The first production V9 radar, delivered in April 2002, will be installed
in the first Greece Block 52+ F-16, which is scheduled to deliver in October
2002.

The F-16, the world's most sought-after fighter, is the choice of
22 countries. More than 4,000 aircraft have been delivered, hundreds more are on order for the United States and six other countries, and production is
expected to continue beyond 2010. Major upgrades for all F-16 versions are
being incorporated to keep the fleet modern and fully supportable over the
aircraft's long service life.

The F-16 is playing a major role as the durable and versatile "workhorse"
in allied peacekeeping operations in the Balkans and Iraq. The F-16 is a key
player in Operation Noble Eagle, homeland air defense of the United States,
and is participating in Operation Enduring Freedom in the war on terrorism in
Afghanistan.

Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., headquartered in Fort Worth, Texas, is a
leader in the design, development, systems integration, production, and
support of advanced military aircraft and related technologies. Its customers
include the military services of the United States and allied countries
throughout the world. Products include the F-16, F-22, F-35 JSF, F-117, C-5, C-27J, C-130, P-3, and U-2.

Lockheed Martin Corp., headquartered in Bethesda, Md., is a global
enterprise principally engaged in the research, design, development,
manufacture, and integration of advanced technology systems, products, and
services. Employing about 125,000 people worldwide, Lockheed Martin had 2001
sales of $24 billion.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-25-2002/0001753646&EDATE=
 
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Northrop to build radar systems for F-16s

WASHINGTON: November 16, 2006: Northrop Grumman Corp. has won a $100 million deal to provide 54 fire control radar systems for F-16 fighter jets the US government is selling to Pakistan, the US Air Force said on Wednesday.

It said Northrop would supply the AN/APG-68 radar systems for the Lockheed Martin Corp.-built F-16s by May 2010.

Pakistan and United States last month signed a letter of acceptance for the weapons deal, which includes 18 new F-16s and an unspecified number of second-hand aircraft.
 
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does anyon eone know what digital radio frequency memory is?
 
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I wonder how good the AN/APG-68(V)9 radar is, is it any good comparing with the AESA radar advantages? Its been sometime, since i have studied the radar systems, though for sure it gives some advantages to our new F-16s when comparing with the older APG-68 radars.

The AN/APG-68 is an advanced pulse-Doppler radar with increased range, more modes and better resolution compared to the APG-66 radar. The F-16C/D Block 25 were the first Fighting Falcon aircraft to be equipped with the advanced APG-68.

The AN/APG-68(V)9 is the latest development of the APG-68 radar family featuring 33% improvement in air-to-air detection range, reduced ownership costs and synthetic aperture radar (SAR) mode. SAR enables high-resolution ground mapping for 24-hour, all-weather precision strike capability.
 
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i wanted to know when will we receive our f-16s? i heard that second hand f-16 would be landing in pakistan in 7-8 months is that so? and when will we recieve new f-16s?
 
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