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Dear Sir, from where did you got all these information. Its high to check the legitimately of your source.
India don't have the will and the capability for reverse engineering like our eastern counterpart.
Do you really consider other fighters except mirage 2000 as junk ?? IS THAT ILLUSION OR YOUR SOURCE VIEW

which big a$$ tanker if I am correct you are referring to Su30 MKI which is a Air Superiority Fighter which never hides itself not did these types of planes intend to do like F-15. They are not meant to sneak trough and close the gap to fire its BVR. They come with the shear fire power and very powerful radars which is the main power and have very high range and lotering time so decide the time and the place, direction for the fight. They might wait till the PAF fighter plane which were scrambled burns out their fuel. Any way I don't ant to come in details but they do have the capability to pose the threat to the AWACs itself. Just give it a thought and you can refer and discuss with your source briefly.

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Bhai why are you are firing the Speculations like AK47. Talk only the confirmed deals and news and if not do point as its your own view


You can use wikipedia for all the information for this, though not the best source but sure give you some idea. You can also visit the tejas news and development thread in PDF.
i Can only say that tejas is only that much indigenous like Grippen is Swedish.


You can use wikipedia for all the information for this, though not the best source but sure give you some idea. You can also visit the tejas news and development thread in PDF.
i Can only say that tejas is as much indigenous like Grippen is Swedish.


1. American GE F414 engine KAVERI ENGINE DON'T HAVE THRUST REQUIRED

2. Israeli Elta EL/M-2032 multi-mode radar ANTENNA IS INDIGENOUS WITH ISRAELI BACKEND WORK ON AESA UTTAM

3. Israeli Elbit-furnished DASH helmet-mounted display and sight (HMDS) DON'T WANT TO EXPORT NOR DO WE HAVE AND COMPANY WITH THIS SPECIALTY

4. French Sextant multi-function displays (MFDs) INDIGENOUS PROVIDED BY SAMTEL

5. British Martin-Baker zero-zero ejection seat INDIGENOUS WORK AND DEVELOPMENT

6. Israeli Rafael laser Litening Targeting Pods BEST IN THE BUISSNESS

7. Russian GSh-23 cannon VERY RELIABLE TO DEVELOP INHOUSE IS UNECONOMICAL

8. Russian/Israeli missiles WORKING ON ASTRA


Should i mention two dozen more villayti components.BHAI MERE YOU FORGOT TO INCLUDE THE TYRES.
WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT THE PARTS SHOULD BE FROM INDIAN COMPANY. WHEN YOU MANUFACTURE A PLANE THERE ARE SO MANY PARTS WHICH IS SUPPLIED BY VENDORS NOW WHETHER IT IS AN INDIAN OR A FOREIGNER DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. IF SUPPLIED BY INDIAN FIRM YOU CALLED IT INDIGENOUS WHETHER IT JUST IMPORT FROM SOME OTHER COUNTRY CAN BRAND ITS NAME OR THE FOREIGNER COMPANY WHICH SET UP ITS PLANT IN INDIA AND MANUFACTURE IN INDIA E.G GENERAL ELECTRIC INDIGENOUS. IN THE PRESENT WORLD ITS ONLY WHICH ECONOMICALLY VIABLE.
ONLY THING WHY IT IS CONCERNED IS

1. COUNTY WANT TO SAVE ITS FORIEGN CURRENCY
2. WHATS TO DEVELOP ITS LOCAL COMPANY
3. FEAR OF SANCTIONS AND POLITICS
what does "bhia" mean? I'm British not indian. i very much know im right . and also in the uk we don't use ak-47's we use m16's
 
what does "bhia" mean? I'm British not indian. i very much know im right . and also in the uk we don't use ak-47's we use m16's
Bhai means brother bhia was typing mistake I am actually using text only browser
 
that big fat f-35 which beat record of tejas in making
bvr the tejas is dead. but a dog fight is an other story. it will give it a good fight and ay beat it. but the typhoon will have any thing you can throw at it even your su30-mki's. you choose the rafale over the typhoon due to the rafale lower unit price.
 
Air warfare between two adversaries includes various factors not only fighter planes. Its the AWACS, Data accusation and processing speed and efficiency, enemy location and its information about their radars, frequency range, SAM factor and high level of planning that matter also. Its not just a plane you purchase and wins all the war. Each airforce develops their own tactics and form their own doctrine developed in years for a specific enemy. The plans are studied and analyzed in hypothetical war by the experts for years and this is a continuation process. Any new plane induction needs these doctrine to be updated and reviewed that can takes years.

Air fight between two planes will involved other planes, ground radars, sam, and awacs too and very less chances they are not that should also be taken into consider before before coming to any conclusion or result. Long range BVR does not guarantee your victory or dominance and why people here thinking that planes are going to fly head to head to each other and not from sides or from back. The official RCS of the fighter plane is from the front and without weapon load and what about from sides and with external weapons and drop tank. If the Awaacs are excluded and DOGFIGHT a pair of fighter plane are put together than the 360 degree coverage offbore sight, high maneuvor lock-on after launch missile like Python 5 would be real threat not any over rated BVR. BVR is much suited for big airsuperiority fighter like su30 mki which can fire the barage of BVR's from long distance taking advantage of its long range and powerful radar and would not confort into any dogfight.
 
Air warfare between two adversaries includes various factors not only fighter planes. Its the AWACS, Data accusation and processing speed and efficiency, enemy location and its information about their radars, frequency range, SAM factor and high level of planning that matter also. Its not just a plane you purchase and wins all the war. Each airforce develops their own tactics and form their own doctrine developed in years for a specific enemy. The plans are studied and analyzed in hypothetical war by the experts for years and this is a continuation process. Any new plane induction needs these doctrine to be updated and reviewed that can takes years.

Air fight between two planes will involved other planes, ground radars, sam, and awacs too and very less chances they are not that should also be taken into consider before before coming to any conclusion or result. Long range BVR does not guarantee your victory or dominance and why people here thinking that planes are going to fly head to head to each other and not from sides or from back. The official RCS of the fighter plane is from the front and without weapon load and what about from sides and with external weapons and drop tank. If the Awaacs are excluded and DOGFIGHT a pair of fighter plane are put together than the 360 degree coverage offbore sight, high maneuvor lock-on after launch missile like Python 5 would be real threat not any over rated BVR. BVR is much suited for big airsuperiority fighter like su30 mki which can fire the barage of BVR's from long distance taking advantage of its long range and powerful radar and would not confort into any dogfight.

long powerful radars can be picked up by anything that includes awacs other jet's or troops on the ground. this is the problem, your radar is powerful but not stealthy.

plus the size of the mki is huge.so that does not help.as it increase its RS. a hq-7 sam will take of if (from a Pakistani perspective) or if low enough manpads. even a mirage with a r-darter missile. obviously f16 with a120-c5 missile. also a jf17 with pl-12.

the situation is also vice versa on your accord.

also has the mirage 2000 got the mica missile yet? if so any pictures
 
you still don't have f-35 and sufficient number of typhoon..and about future who knows
we have 4 f35 but i the us for training other raf pilots coming to the uk 2018. they typhoon is still being procured so thats obvious the number are going to be low.
 
Air warfare between two adversaries includes various factors not only fighter planes. Its the AWACS, Data accusation and processing speed and efficiency, enemy location and its information about their radars, frequency range, SAM factor and high level of planning that matter also. Its not just a plane you purchase and wins all the war. Each airforce develops their own tactics and form their own doctrine developed in years for a specific enemy. The plans are studied and analyzed in hypothetical war by the experts for years and this is a continuation process. Any new plane induction needs these doctrine to be updated and reviewed that can takes years.

Air fight between two planes will involved other planes, ground radars, sam, and awacs too and very less chances they are not that should also be taken into consider before before coming to any conclusion or result. Long range BVR does not guarantee your victory or dominance and why people here thinking that planes are going to fly head to head to each other and not from sides or from back. The official RCS of the fighter plane is from the front and without weapon load and what about from sides and with external weapons and drop tank. If the Awaacs are excluded and DOGFIGHT a pair of fighter plane are put together than the 360 degree coverage offbore sight, high maneuvor lock-on after launch missile like Python 5 would be real threat not any over rated BVR. BVR is much suited for big airsuperiority fighter like su30 mki which can fire the barage of BVR's from long distance taking advantage of its long range and powerful radar and would not confort into any dogfight.
long powerful radars can be picked up by anything that includes awacs other jet's or troops on the ground. this is the problem, your radar is powerful but not stealthy.

plus the size of the mki is huge.so that does not help.as it increase its RS. a hq-7 sam will take of if (from a Pakistani perspective) or if low enough manpads. even a mirage with a r-darter missile. obviously f16 with a120-c5 missile. also a jf17 with pl-12.

the situation is also vice versa on your accord.

also has the mirage 2000 got the mica missile yet? if so any pictures

MKI is an Air Superiority Fighter so no need for low RCS, check F-15 it fights open with shear firing power and there is no need to sneak near the enemy target to get its shot hope you got that point. It can also work as the command center but providing the radar input via secure data link to other supportive fighter plane say Mig29SMT which will keep their radar off and only turn on passive inputs and try to close the gap between the enemy plane. Now you are naming AIM 120c5 and PL12 which the F16 or JF17 would try to target the MKI which will maintain its safe distance. The powerful radar can also used to reduce the enemy radar coverage ESW warfare: I had excluded the AWAAC which will be available in Indian side too.

Ok another way suppose 20 MKI files toward say Lahore, the Paf will have to scramble its say 20 F-16. But MKI don't attack but wait till F-16 burns its fuel due to its massive fuel capacity. F-16 have to eventually land in its bases for refuelling and you know very well its more advantageous to distroy the enemy fighter plane on the ground than in air. MKI purpose is fulfilled because than the work of Jaguar and mig27 will start which are dedicated ground attack fighter and first will be used for SEAD and DEAD operation to target SAM Sites. Optionally MKI can used Brahmos thats why Brahmos NG which MKI can carry 3 in nos. Paf have to take risk to attack Indian air bases due very strong SAM network.

Hope you understand my points which I have to complete in few words.
 
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Air warfare between two adversaries includes various factors not only fighter planes. Its the AWACS, Data accusation and processing speed and efficiency, enemy location and its information about their radars, frequency range, SAM factor and high level of planning that matter also. Its not just a plane you purchase and wins all the war. Each airforce develops their own tactics and form their own doctrine developed in years for a specific enemy. The plans are studied and analyzed in hypothetical war by the experts for years and this is a continuation process. Any new plane induction needs these doctrine to be updated and reviewed that can takes years.

Air fight between two planes will involved other planes, ground radars, sam, and awacs too and very less chances they are not that should also be taken into consider before before coming to any conclusion or result. Long range BVR does not guarantee your victory or dominance and why people here thinking that planes are going to fly head to head to each other and not from sides or from back. The official RCS of the fighter plane is from the front and without weapon load and what about from sides and with external weapons and drop tank. If the Awaacs are excluded and DOGFIGHT a pair of fighter plane are put together than the 360 degree coverage offbore sight, high maneuvor lock-on after launch missile like Python 5 would be real threat not any over rated BVR. BVR is much suited for big airsuperiority fighter like su30 mki which can fire the barage of BVR's from long distance taking advantage of its long range and powerful radar and would not confort into any dogfight.


MKI is an Air Superiority Fighter so no need for low RCS, check F-15 it fights open with shear power power and there is no need to sneak near the enemy target to get its shot hope you got that point. It can also work as the command center but providing the radar input via secure data link to other supportive fighter plane say Mig29SMT which will keep their radar off and only turn on passive inputs and try to close the gap between the enemy plane. Now you are naming AIM 120c5 and PL12 which the F16 or JF17 would try to target the MKI which will maintain its safe distance. The powerful radar can also used to reduce the enemy radar coverage ESW warfare.

Ok another way suppose 20 MKI files toward say Lahore, the Paf will have to scramble its say 20 F-16. But MKI don't attack but wait till F-16 burns due to its massive fuel capacity. F-16 have to eventually land for refuelling and you know very well its more advantageous to distroy the enemy fighter plane on the ground than in air. MKI purpose is fulfilled because than the work of Jaguar and mig27 will start which are dedicated ground attack fighter and first will be used for SEAD and DEAD operation to target SAM Sites. Optionally MKI can used Brahmos thats why Brahmos NG which MKI can carry 3 in nos. Paf have to take risk to attack Indian air bases due very strong SAM network.

Hope you understand my points which I have to complete in few words.


the f16's range is good and even better with cft's from what i know paf choose the f16 so that they can go deep in to india and destroy thrombay (indian nuclear facility) lahore is not to far from the indian border so the su30 will most probably encounter paf resistance. note paf is not all aboout the f16 the mirage 5 rose3 is built for deep night interceptions.

so does iaf have mica missiles for mk2's?
 
i will accept that jf 17 is hit when i see tejas flying in the air.
 
Now you are talking like PAKISTANI fan than why don't claim yourself pakistani.
Any link PAF had CFT in their F-16.
And please explain how they will reach Trombay bypassing AWAAC, Green Pine radar, Capable SAM coverage and protected with high nos of fighter in IAF disposal without bieng hurt.

Mirrage 5/3 for deep strike mission are you serious. They are interceptor and what does mica have to do in ground attack you can chose Nachang Q5

the f16's range is good and even better with cft's from what i know paf choose the f16 so that they can go deep in to india and destroy thrombay (indian nuclear facility) lahore is not to far from the indian border so the su30 will most probably encounter paf resistance. note paf is not all aboout the f16 the mirage 5 rose3 is built for deep night interceptions.

so does iaf have mica missiles for mk2's?
Now you are talking like PAKISTANI fan than why don't claim yourself pakistani.
Any link PAF had CFT in their F-16.
And please explain how they will reach Trombay bypassing AWAAC, Green Pine radar, Capable SAM coverage and protected with high nos of fighter in IAF disposal without bieng hurt.

Mirrage 5/3 for deep strike mission are you serious. They are interceptor and what does mica have to do in ground attack you can chose Nachang Q5
 
AMRAAMS, JDAMS, CFTs, JHMCS.....all present and serving.

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WE GOT 16 TEJAS FOR EVALUATION.. NOT READY LIKE F-35 FOR ITS PURPOSES
Iaf takes 32 years just to assemble components(like engine, radar, MFD, HMD, radar, seats) in tejas airframe.. and till yet it only induct 16 for evaluation..

AMRAAMS, JDAMS, CFTs, JHMCS.....all present and serving.

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Sir, did F-16s have midair refuelling capability or buddy-to-buddy refuelling capability??
 
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