Expanding Pakistan's ties with nations

[darkinsky]

To be brief, there is a lot of strategic value to be gained by partnership with Israel. Especially in Defence, science, technology, and elsewhere. Israelis have cooperated with us in the past. Even provided critical spare parts for F-16s. They are similar to Pakistan in the sense they have fought multiple wars with enemies numerically superior to them, and multiple times larger than them. Israel is advance in defense technology, missile shield system, radars, tanks, naval, small arms, etc...

if we work hard we can make every thing of our own,plus china already gets the most of what israel is capable of so we dont need them

what israel is doing is bad for humanity and we need world to be a better place, we dont want a kashmir any place in the world do we??

mossad with spread its network if we accept israel or develop diplomatic relations

other countries you mentioned, well turkey is more important than armenia so no,also only armenia can provide cell number of kim kerdeshan, greece?? it has already dwindling econmy, but can draw som,e experience on tourism

on bulgharia, i dont even know what country it is except the name of country

 

[RayKalm]

Deno, my dear, wasn't trade perfectly fine for whichever country Turkey choose?

 

[A1Kaid]

Ex-Pakistan president wants Israel ties | The Jewish Chronicle

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Pakistan-Israel in landmark talks

From 2005

Deno, my dear, wasn't trade perfectly fine for whichever country Turkey choose?

Mate, don't worry about that. Pakistan needs to focus on building key partnerships with multiple nations.

With Armenia especially as someone mentioned before by improving relations with Armenia we can enhance relations with Russia. Not to mention we can cooperate with them in the energy sector. We have no reason not to recognize Armenia. We have no issue with them whatsoever.

Pakistan's foreign policy should be independent.

 

[EjazR]

I would have thought India should have been on top of the list. You solve more than half your problems if you have good ties with India.

 

[A1Kaid]

I would have thought India should have been on top of the list. You solve more than half your problems if you have good ties with India.

You can select "other" for that.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

I would have thought India should have been on top of the list. You solve more than half your problems if you have good ties with India.

The OP has started thread to counter Turkeys deepening ties with India.

Its like if Turkey can think for its own benefit, why does Pakistan has to stand alone talking of Brotherhood thing.

And I see nothing wrong in it. Every nation should think of benefitting its own people through trade, commerce and industries.

If all nations think about development, worlds problems would be not be solved but atleast wars can be avoided.

 

[HZR2011]

hmmm majority goes to Israel.... because they have good tech and are better in science???

Is Israel much advanced than Turkey in civilian and defense tech??

 

[A1Kaid]

hmmm majority goes to Israel.... because they have good tech and are better in science???

Is Israel much advanced than Turkey in civilian and defense tech??

Yes, Israeli technology is largely influenced by US technology and their own independent research and development.

 

[HZR2011]

Well,but Pakistan can't engage or have good relationship with Israel as it will be like betraying palestine and Islamic world

 

[Kompromat]

Lets discuss a critical part of Pakistan's foreign policy, that is establishing multilateral ties with various nations.

Expanding ties is indeed a great thought , but it needs to be backed up by a vibrant economy and a stable govt. We have neither !

Pakistan should seek to explore common interest and ties with Israel, Greece, Armenia, Bulgaria, Greek Cyprus, Georgia, Russia (already in progress), and many other countries. Pakistan has no problem with these nations and.

With Armenia, Pakistan can work with Armenia on a major energy deal. Armenia has gas it can sell to Pakistan.

Armenia is not the only country with gas reserves , its totally illogical to get a pipe all the way from Armenia when we can get it from next door, Iran & Central Asia.

With Greece, long historical reasons to establish stronger ties with this nation. Pakistan can cooperate on Defence, nuclear energy, agriculture, education, and more with Greece. Possibly, even hold Naval exercises in the Aegean sea.

Greece is bankrupt , why would we need to have Naval exercises with them ? They have active hostilities with our all weathered friend and brotherly nation Turkey. Pakistani expats are treated as animals in Greece, they have nothing to offer to us.

With Israel, Israel has for a long time wanted to establish ties with Pakistan. Both nations can cooperate on agriculture, technology, defense, anti-terrorism and other fields.

Israel has long wanted to screw us up too , and they are actively working on it. Until Palestine is given freedom , no support for Israel. Its a rouge state.


Only country i think we should be engaging more vigorously is Russia & South Korea , Indonesia , Malaysia and Australia.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Expanding ties is indeed a great thought , but it needs to be backed up by a vibrant economy and a stable govt. We have neither !




Armenia is not the only country with gas reserves , its totally illogical to get a pipe all the way from Armenia when we can get it from next door, Iran & Central Asia.


Greece is bankrupt , why would we need to have Naval exercises with them ? They have active hostilities with our all weathered friend and brotherly nation Turkey. Pakistani expats are treated as animals in Greece, they have nothing to offer to us.



Israel has long wanted to screw us up too , and they are actively working on it. Until Palestine is given freedom , no support for Israel. Its a rouge state.


Only country i think we should be engaging more vigorously is Russia & South Korea , Indonesia , Malaysia and Australia.

I am getting tired of Pakistan sacrificing its interest for the sake of all these countries and they don't gives a rat's *** about Pakistan. Turkey can deal with our archenemy India and yet we are expected to not deal with countries they call enemies , Why ?

And don't even get me started on Palestinians. When was the last time a Palestinian ever gave two hoots for Pakistan,

Please people wake up and put Pakistan's Interest first. Develop and grow Pakistan and do somthing for Pakistani people before worrying about Turkey, Palestine, Iran , Saudi Arabia. All these countries are fine and they do not need our help.

I know some people who need our help and they are PAKISTANI PEOPLE.

Thank You for supporting PAKISTAN.

 

[Dr. NooB NinjA]

^^^ That sure is a valid and good point..!!
And foreign policies of any nation shuold be in its best interest and should never be guided by any other nations interest(be it a friend or a foe)..
An independent foreign policy is the need of the hour for Pakistan...
Also India should be on top of that list; Pakistan-India ties if get better and stronger, half of the problems Pakistan is facing will vanish in thin air..!!

 

[Last Hope]

None on the list.

Israel? Never. It is a part of Israel's agenda to break down Pakistan, like they tried with India twice, in 1980s and 1998, to attack on Kahuta labs or destroy the nukes. They both failed altogether. Let's not forget the words of David Ben Gurion.

On topic, I say we must expand our ties with Russia, Turkey, Japan, Indonesia, other small countries which were once a part of USSR, they would be perfect for exports. Pakistan should also increase the ties with Malaysia, after all the number of Pakistani students going to Malaysia is increasing, so is the tourism from Pakistan. They have a lot to offer us.

 

[Baby Leone]

I am getting tired of Pakistan sacrificing its interest for the sake of all these countries and they don't gives a rat's *** about Pakistan. Turkey can deal with our archenemy India and yet we are expected to not deal with countries they call enemies , Why ?

And don't even get me started on Palestinians. When was the last time a Palestinian ever gave two hoots for Pakistan,

Please people wake up and put Pakistan's Interest first. Develop and grow Pakistan and do somthing for Pakistani people before worrying about Turkey, Palestine, Iran , Saudi Arabia. All these countries are fine and they do not need our help.

I know some people who need our help and they are PAKISTANI PEOPLE.

Thank You for supporting PAKISTAN.

Agreed am also fed up with the kind of muslim brotherhood we have in today's world......
we helped every single country in their need (although its a good thing as a muslims to help everyone not only muslims) but we shold make ourself strong first.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Lets discuss a critical part of Pakistan's foreign policy, that is establishing multilateral ties with various nations.

Pakistan should seek to explore common interest and ties with Israel, Greece, Armenia, Bulgaria, Greek Cyprus, Georgia, Russia (already in progress), and many other countries. Pakistan has no problem with these nations and.

With Armenia, Pakistan can work with Armenia on a major energy deal. Armenia has gas it can sell to Pakistan.

With Greece, long historical reasons to establish stronger ties with this nation. Pakistan can cooperate on Defence, nuclear energy, agriculture, education, and more with Greece. Possibly, even hold Naval exercises in the Aegean sea.

With Israel, Israel has for a long time wanted to establish ties with Pakistan. Both nations can cooperate on agriculture, technology, defense, anti-terrorism and other fields.

How did you leave out Germany and Brazil ?
Germany will basically rule EU / Europe to a large extent.
Brazil represents south american block.