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[nahtanbob]

Same as they allowed drone strikes...your posts are like that of a 15 year old. How old are you? I bet you think modi has a PhD in being a chia wala

it is not like the drone strikes were happening in Islamabad or Rawalpindi. they were happening in remote village where foreign or pakistani journalists cannot investigate

Why would Pakistan go along with a drama that showed itself as harborer of OBL ?
This is more like being caught with your pants down

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Why would Pakistan go along with a drama that showed itself as harborer of OBL ?
This is more like being caught with your pants down

Obama himself literally said that it was done with Pakistans cooperation:

Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

Osama Bin Laden Dead

President Obama addresses the Nation to announce that the United States has killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda.

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

Case closed, stop your drama

 

[nahtanbob]

Not just PDF but Seymour Hersh too, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who has enjoyed unparalleled access to Washington DC's power corridors for decades. Do you really think an operation of that timing (with a crashed helicopter and being blown up) can occur in Abbottabad without anybody interfering?!

Seymour M. Hersh · The Killing of Osama bin Laden

Would bin Laden, target of a massive international manhunt, really decide that a resort town forty miles from Islamabad...

www.lrb.co.uk

Is Serymour Hersh an ISI agent or PDF troll too now?

Mr Hersh never disputed OBL was killed in Pakistan.

He claimed the US government was concealing certain details of the raid (Surprise surprise)

if you believe what Hersh says Pakistan would be directly sheltering OBL.

Seymour Hersh Gets A Big Correction From The Guardian

Seymour Hersh Gets A Big Correction From The Guardian

www.huffpost.com

 

[crankthatskunk]

Not just PDF but Seymour Hersh too, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who has enjoyed unparalleled access to Washington DC's power corridors for decades. Do you really think an operation of that timing (with a crashed helicopter and being blown up) can occur in Abbottabad without anybody interfering?!

Seymour M. Hersh · The Killing of Osama bin Laden

Would bin Laden, target of a massive international manhunt, really decide that a resort town forty miles from Islamabad...

www.lrb.co.uk

Is Serymour Hersh an ISI agent or PDF troll too now?

Long long time ago, after the incident, certain "somebody" sent an email to Hersh, still waiting for the response and answers to the questions asked. The capacity of the helicopters used have gave away the game of Americans. Nobody on earth can overcome those capacity issues according to the story sold to the world.
OBL saga is among the biggest lie told to mankind. Kiyani gave away a lot for not much in bargain.
Obama got what he wanted, the election victory.

History is a lie. Written by the victors.

 

[nahtanbob]

Obama himself literally said that it was done with Pakistans cooperation:

Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

Osama Bin Laden Dead

President Obama addresses the Nation to announce that the United States has killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda.

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

Case closed, stop your drama

you do not need US Navy Seals to kill OBL.
Assuming no one was protecting him 20 fat Pakistani policemen with their firearms would suffice

 

[nahtanbob]

Long long time ago, after the incident, certain "somebody" sent an email to Hersh, still waiting for the response and answers to the questions asked. The capacity of the helicopters used have gave away the game of Americans. Nobody on earth can overcome those capacity issues according to the story sold to the world.
OBL saga is among the biggest lie told to mankind. Kiyani gave away a lot for not much in bargain.
Obama got what he wanted, the election victory.

History is a lie. Written by the victors.

When has the Pakistan ever given up anything of importance ?

Pakistan hands suspect in USS Cole bombing

Pakistan hands suspect in USS Cole bombing

A Yemeni microbiology student wanted in connection with the bombing of the USS Cole was...

www.chron.com

Pakistan Reports Arrest of a Suspect in '98 Embassy Bombings

Pakistan Reports Arrest of a Suspect in '98 Embassy Bombings (Published 2004)

Pakistani officials announce arrest of Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, who is among 22 people on FBI's most-wanted-terrorists list; he was indicted for murder in connection with 1998 bombings of American Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya; American officials say he is one of seven...

www.nytimes.com

Inside the Mission to Catch Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

Inside the Mission to Catch Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

How the FBI, CIA, and Pakistani intelligence worked together -- or didn't -- in the global hunt for the mastermind behind September 11, 2001.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Flash_Ninja]

you do not need US Navy Seals to kill OBL.
Assuming no one was protecting him 20 fat Pakistani policemen with their firearms would suffice

He's the most wanted man for america, not for Pakistan. Obviously they would send their best soldiers if they needed to take him out.

 

[Trango Towers]

it is not like the drone strikes were happening in Islamabad or Rawalpindi. they were happening in remote village where foreign or pakistani journalists cannot investigate

Why would Pakistan go along with a drama that showed itself as harborer of OBL ?
This is more like being caught with your pants down

You know please go and educate yourself instead of asking elementary question. I am bored of your immature posts

 

[Meengla]

Obama himself literally said that it was done with Pakistans cooperation:

Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we’ve done. But it’s important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

Yup. When Obama announced the Bin Laden death he publicly acknowledged Pakistan's help. It's a different matter that Pakistani media industry didn't cash in on that. An opportunity lost. The Obama video and Rumsfeld's forceful defense that Pakistan couldn't have known about OBL presence should have been MILKED in the media war.

Here they are. Do your part. Spread them. Pin them. Feature them. Just do your part!!

 

[nahtanbob]

Yup. When Obama announced the Bin Laden death he publicly acknowledged Pakistan's help. It's a different matter that Pakistani media industry didn't cash in on that. An opportunity lost. The Obama video and Rumsfeld's forceful defense that Pakistan couldn't have known about OBL presence should have been MILKED in the media war.

Here they are. Do your part. Spread them. Pin them. Feature them. Just do your part!!

@Meengla
politicians say things all the time. Sometimes you follow what people for what they do not what they say.

with due respect you do not need a Navy Seal team with their full gear to kill OBL and handful of his associates. a bunch of out of shape Pakistani policemen is what it takes to kill him.

 

[Nasr]

He is correct, Osama grave would have been made a shrine, given even Imran called him a martyr. Good thing they buried him in sea.

Garbage in garbage out. Panetta is one in a long list of idiots and liars in Washington DC.

 

[R Wing]

Long long time ago, after the incident, certain "somebody" sent an email to Hersh, still waiting for the response and answers to the questions asked. The capacity of the helicopters used have gave away the game of Americans. Nobody on earth can overcome those capacity issues according to the story sold to the world.
OBL saga is among the biggest lie told to mankind. Kiyani gave away a lot for not much in bargain.
Obama got what he wanted, the election victory.

History is a lie. Written by the victors.

Agreed

 

[R Wing]

Mr Hersh never disputed OBL was killed in Pakistan.

He claimed the US government was concealing certain details of the raid (Surprise surprise)

if you believe what Hersh says Pakistan would be directly sheltering OBL.

Seymour Hersh Gets A Big Correction From The Guardian

Seymour Hersh Gets A Big Correction From The Guardian

www.huffpost.com

Actually, he said he was a "prisoner" of sorts.

I don't believe what anyone says --- I'm just providing an alternative version of events since you seemed so sure to know the truth in your previous post.

 

[nahtanbob]

Actually, he said he was a "prisoner" of sorts.

I don't believe what anyone says --- I'm just providing an alternative version of events since you seemed so sure to know the truth in your previous post.

I know this for sure:
OBL was living in Pakistan under the protection of some Pakistanis for a long time (5+ years). All the news report about living in Afghanistan, caves and tribal borderlands was bullshit. The CIA or some American agency found out his location. US military killed him in a special forces raid

I do not know of any reason why Pakistani army generals would go along with US raid on OBL

 

[CodeforFood]

@Meengla
politicians say things all the time. Sometimes you follow what people for what they do not what they say.

with due respect you do not need a Navy Seal team with their full gear to kill OBL and handful of his associates. a bunch of out of shape Pakistani policemen is what it takes to kill him.

I believe this is a simplistic view. There are a lot of political and religious dynamics within the population that will invoke a response leading towards chaos in the country if "20 so called fat policemen" would have done the action vs a super well exercised foreign individuals who will fly away and who no one can lay their hands on once the deed is done.

I think that OBL was no longer of use in the regional play for either local parties and global party (as the power dynamics have moved on to others), so it was a good time to put the feather in the cap and move on.

For me there are a lot of things that makes less sense (about this operation) due to the veiled facts that may never come out, due to security reasons.