Exclusive interview with new Pakistan Air Force Chief: PAF’s Cutting Edge Grows

[RAMPAGE]

cant we Change the Air frame of JF-17 now ?? i mean for probably better payload , and reduced RCS ?

We can. Silent hornet and Eagle are examples.

cant we Change the Air frame of JF-17 now ?? i mean for probably better payload , and reduced RCS ?

We can. Silent hornet and Eagle programs are examples.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

We can. Silent hornet and Eagle are examples.

We can. Silent hornet and Eagle programs are examples.

Do we have the relevant technical data and the expertise?

I know there is some news of helping hand from Korea and Turkey, still we do not know what might be given.

 

[Zhukov]

There are next gen stuff which can fry the seeker of the missile and render it useless, don't under estimate 21st century counter measures for fighter jets, the thing is can we get those for our birds?

for example what measures are u referring to?

 

[RAMPAGE]

Do we have the relevant technical data and the expertise?

I know there is some news of helping hand from Korea and Turkey, still we do not know what might be given.

Turkey will be eager for a JV for TFX with Pakistan. The know-how gained from that project can be used to build a single engine aircraft developed from JFT.

 

[Basel]

for example what measures are u referring to?

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Conventional countermeasures to an IR missile threat include jamming systems which confuse or blind the IR missile using either IR lamps and/or IR lasers. These jamming systems transmit either a high powered IR carrier signal to blind the IR detector of the incoming IR missile or, otherwise, transmit a lower powered IR carrier signal modulated with a modulating signal to confuse the IR detector of the incoming missile.

In Closed-Loop InfraRed CounterMeasure (CLIRCM) systems, the optical subsystem of the missile sensor is remotely interrogated to determine its optical modulation frequency. Coherent laser energy that is specifically encoded in a suitable format by the countermeasure system is then directed toward the missile sensors, thereby confusing, or jamming, the missile sensors, causing the missile to be steered off course. High-power laser energy can also be used to counterattack FPA-based systems, by disabling the focal plane array.

The IR lamp and/or IR laser jamming systems are heavy, complex, consume a great deal of power, and require significant space. Real estate in airborne platforms, as well as in most other transportation is typically at a premium or may not be available. Further, systems using IR lasers include precise pointing and tracking devices, which are hard to implement and produce drag on an aircraft platform.

Owing to their extremely high cost, such countermeasure systems have enjoyed only limited use, primarily on military aircraft. The countermeasure systems are commonly integrated into the aircraft, for example, in the fuselage, wing, or nose of the aircraft, or fixed onto an outer portion of the aircraft. Depending on where the countermeasure systems are mounted to the aircraft, they can lead to an increase in drag, reducing flight performance and increasing operating costs. Also, servicing, maintenance, upgrading and testing of the systems are expensive and time consuming procedures. In addition, such procedures require grounding of each aircraft for a period of time.

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Full Article is here:
Infrared Countermeasures Systems

 

[rockstar08]

We can. Silent hornet and Eagle are examples.

We can. Silent hornet and Eagle programs are examples.

ok thanks ,but will it required a lot of Funds for R&D ??

 

[RAMPAGE]

ok thanks ,but will it required a lot of Funds for R&D ??

Sure.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Turkey will be eager for a JV for TFX with Pakistan. The know-how gained from that project can be used to build a single engine aircraft developed from JFT.

I remember there was single engine design too for the TFX.

It could be possible that PAF is looking for a similar strategy they implied with JF-17's where as China went for J-10. PAF could limit the cost because the technology for developing a multi engine TFX is already in full swing so if PAF can start to produce the single engine it could have the bargain. This would be something like F-16's and F-15 attained.

If you see the design closely the air to air refuelling mechanism is similar to F-16's.
At present 200 TFX are supposed to be made and 110 F-35's are to also be made. There is a requirement of more single engine aircraft though so it is possible that Turkey can sell or share on a Fifth gen single engine programe.

 

[mingle]

I remember there was single engine design too for the TFX.

It could be possible that PAF is looking for a similar strategy they implied with JF-17's where as China went for J-10. PAF could limit the cost because the technology for developing a multi engine TFX is already in full swing so if PAF can start to produce the single engine it could have the bargain. This would be something like F-16's and F-15 attained.

If you see the design closely the air to air refuelling mechanism is similar to F-16's.
At present 200 TFX are supposed to be made and 110 F-35's are to also be made. There is a requirement of more single engine aircraft though so it is possible that Turkey can sell or share on a Fifth gen single engine programe.

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Turkish Tfx GONNA be twin engine confugration

 

[Al-Taïr]

any news on RCS, composites & RAM.... how far can we push the capabilities of thunder with current air frame .... is PAC mature enough to try dual engine 4th or 4++ airsuperiority fighter .(just asking, i know we got no funds or need(coz of fc31) ). ?

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Turkish Tfx GONNA be twin engine confugration

Still the Single Engine configuration is similar to the Duel engine design. Tails, wings along with the cockpit can be used on a slightly smaller fuselage. Which can host a powerful single engine.