Ex Commanding-in-Chief of the Indian Central Air Command, SBP Sinha on Youtube

[nomi007]

don't worry few years and they will claim full victory of that day and indians will believe the Bollywood and scrap . they are changing story little by little .

movie is under production
i think ajay will play role of abi nandu

 

[TsAr]

Please don't embarrass every Indian by coming out with such utter rubbish. Nobody talked about fake currency except the fake currency printed by a foreign power, and circulated through Bangladeshi fishermen on fishing boats touching at Kakinada and at Machilipatnam, and some through Murshidabad.

As far as the illusions of the 56" idiot are concerned, and your own cooked up figures, go and look up the records. It was expected by our Hard Work trumps Harvard genius that some significant percentage of the currency wouldn't be handed in to the Reserve Bank, and that would prove to be fake currency. Instead, almost all the amounts calculated to be in circulation came back. There was nothing like that additional amount that you have claimed; only the stupidest and thickest-skinned Sanghis think this to be authentic, rather than face-saving fairy tales put out by the Parivar.

Regime change will certainly bring out many facts full of surprises. There is a saying to which I invite your attention: Be careful what you pray for; you may get it.

Mighty Joe is still in the game....good to hear from you sir....

 

[TOPGUN]

Haha they just cant get over defeat and now got their media racist clowns and bollwood fairy tales playing out what a pathetic nation !!

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

good that they keep fooling themselves and remain delusional by ignoring the facts.

this same delusional attitude and overconfidence cost them Feb 27, 2019 debacle and will cost them again as their think tanks, are yet not ready to learn from their mistakes.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Good to have you back ..

Thank you, Sir. I came back because of @fatman17's thoroughly enticing post on 1965; the man is really a class act. This enfuriating post caught my attention, and I'm afraid I simply lost my temper.

Mighty Joe is still in the game....good to hear from you sir....

Thank you, chief.

Did you read that crap? Nearly blew a gasket.

 

[anathema]

So the IAF can see any PAF aircraft taking off and still it only had just four aircraft on CAP (2XSU-30-- 2X MK2)
The PAF hasn't learned to launch it's BVR missiles......but somehow managed to shoot down the MiG-21.
Abhinandan was shot down over India but drifted into Pakistan....I guess his bereaved MiG also decided to join him.
Do these characters even watch what they say or post.

You know a pathetic post when you see one ! Air engagements will always favor to the one who holds the surprise element. Examples to point - A) IAF raid on Balakot B) Mass PAF raids on IAF airfields in 1965 war.
Op Swift retort was neither surprise nor a strategic achievement. The fact that 4 A/C's were on station at that time is enough to dispute that.The entire excercise was done to placate public perception. With regards to only 4a/c were on CAP duties during Op retort - its actually very easy to understand. PAF gamed the system. They had their A/c's frequently up and as such saturated the on-station times that IAF fighters would have had. This tactic will be done by any professional airforce in the opening engagement but does not work if the engagement proceeds. With regards to Abhi - he crossed LOC in pursuit of bandit and was brought down. It goes without saying that he brought down an F16. However this particular truth will come out later - just the way Kargil came out years later.

 

[Nilgiri]

Please don't embarrass every Indian by coming out with such utter rubbish. Nobody talked about fake currency except the fake currency printed by a foreign power, and circulated through Bangladeshi fishermen on fishing boats touching at Kakinada and at Machilipatnam, and some through Murshidabad.

As far as the illusions of the 56" idiot are concerned, and your own cooked up figures, go and look up the records. It was expected by our Hard Work trumps Harvard genius that some significant percentage of the currency wouldn't be handed in to the Reserve Bank, and that would prove to be fake currency. Instead, almost all the amounts calculated to be in circulation came back. There was nothing like that additional amount that you have claimed; only the stupidest and thickest-skinned Sanghis think this to be authentic, rather than face-saving fairy tales put out by the Parivar.

Regime change will certainly bring out many facts full of surprises. There is a saying to which I invite your attention: Be careful what you pray for; you may get it.

While I agree laozi pulled a real bad analysis out of the kiester....

would like to hear your comments on:

https://scroll.in/latest/951792/ind...9-but-its-far-from-a-recession-says-imf-chief

Just a day before the Union Budget, Georgieva said the country witnessed an abrupt slowdown in 2019 due to measures like demonetisation and Goods and Service Tax. “It appears that the main reason for this slowdown was the non-banking financial institutions experiencing turbulence,” Georgieva said. “For example, coming with the unified tax system [GST], and the demonetisation that took place. These are steps that over time are beneficial, but of course, they might be somewhat disruptive over the short term.”

Haha apparently similar sentiment from same woman earlier, when she was with the World Bank:

https://www.livemint.com/Politics/d...s-demonetisation-says-economy-will-see-p.html

The tax compliance analysis seems to depend on who you talk to and which set of numbers you pick as with everything and anything regarding India these days

 

[YeBeWarned]

Thank you, Sir. I came back because of @fatman17's thoroughly enticing post on 1965; the man is really a class act. This enfuriating post caught my attention, and I'm afraid I simply lost my temper.

Yes it was indeed a very well written article .

 

[Joe Shearer]

While I agree laozi pulled a real bad analysis out of the kiester....

would like to hear your comments on:

https://scroll.in/latest/951792/ind...9-but-its-far-from-a-recession-says-imf-chief

Just a day before the Union Budget, Georgieva said the country witnessed an abrupt slowdown in 2019 due to measures like demonetisation and Goods and Service Tax. “It appears that the main reason for this slowdown was the non-banking financial institutions experiencing turbulence,” Georgieva said. “For example, coming with the unified tax system [GST], and the demonetisation that took place. These are steps that over time are beneficial, but of course, they might be somewhat disruptive over the short term.”

Haha apparently similar sentiment from same woman earlier, when she was with the World Bank:

https://www.livemint.com/Politics/d...s-demonetisation-says-economy-will-see-p.html

The tax compliance analysis seems to depend on who you talk to and which set of numbers you pick as with everything and anything regarding India these days

So far, except for Subbu's innovative Economic Survey, nothing comforting has emerged from these proceedings, and last year was a disaster (Subbu may have been ISB faculty immediately before, but I trust you know that he was a familiar fixture at our IIMC Alumni Association meetings, so he is claimed as our own).

Whether it is just happenstance or manifest design, this regime has had a fairly rough time of it, and short of pleading that it isn't QUITE so bad, as seems to be the approach right here, there is precious little to be said about the management skills of our heroes (actually, your heroes). One came across the phrase 'facing a bowl of soup with a fork in hand', and one was struck by the vividness of the depiction.

As for that lady's hailing demonetisation, she is off her rocker. She needs to come down and see for herself the havoc that was wreaked among the poorer, cash-dependent classes, who still haven't recovered.

 

[Nilgiri]

So far, except for Subbu's innovative Economic Survey, nothing comforting has emerged from these proceedings, and last year was a disaster (Subbu may have been ISB faculty immediately before, but I trust you know that he was a familiar fixture at our IIMC Alumni Association meetings, so he is claimed as our own).

Whether it is just happenstance or manifest design, this regime has had a fairly rough time of it, and short of pleading that it isn't QUITE so bad, as seems to be the approach right here, there is precious little to be said about the management skills of our heroes (actually, your heroes). One came across the phrase 'facing a bowl of soup with a fork in hand', and one was struck by the vividness of the depiction.

As for that lady's hailing demonetisation, she is off her rocker. She needs to come down and see for herself the havoc that was wreaked among the poorer, cash-dependent classes, who still haven't recovered.

But how to sift through a current set of problems (or benefits for that matter) perceptible on the ground and neatly package them as the result of sig (X1, X2, X3....Xn) in some precise way to actions of (A1, A2, A3...An)?

Lot of the NBFC problems have their largest genesis in the UPA administration and its addiction to hot money + pushing this through for lending at all levels (instead of doing the wiser thing and instituting reforms and/or improving business parameters so such money can flow into cold capital)....combined with its over reliance on demand side gross subsidy transfer.

"Wrecked among the poor, cash dependent classes".....explain to me how that happens (esp this far downstream in time) if ~ 99% of the money was returned? If the corrupted sector of a hard disk amounts to just 1%, how would turning it off and on make a huge difference in its larger operation once the RPMs are whirring and the OS is loaded again? Again...(it is my opinion) the larger NBFC distress comes from actual structural leveraging stasis (by bad conduits on how this credit was made available and where it was deployed without proper referencing) and its cascade with time that is only now starting to bottom out. Demonetisation needs a proper larger time scale to monitor what the tax compliance numbers result in.

The recent economic survey was quite good read. From the previous one before, was this little tid bit from (previous) Subbu about what I am going on about tax compliance:

https://www.financialexpress.com/bu...on-impact-narendra-modi-arun-jaitley/1034096/

This needs term 2 data...and also to gauge w.r.t the coming higher-expansionary cycle (i.e the more crucial overall tax revenue size) given the bottoming-out cycle has the multi-variable related slow-down at play when talking about its tax revenue decline (while ITRs+compliance increased).

 

[Windjammer]

You know a pathetic post when you see one ! Air engagements will always favor to the one who holds the surprise element. Examples to point - A) IAF raid on Balakot B) Mass PAF raids on IAF airfields in 1965 war.
Op Swift retort was neither surprise nor a strategic achievement. The fact that 4 A/C's were on station at that time is enough to dispute that.The entire excercise was done to placate public perception. With regards to only 4a/c were on CAP duties during Op retort - its actually very easy to understand. PAF gamed the system. They had their A/c's frequently up and as such saturated the on-station times that IAF fighters would have had. This tactic will be done by any professional airforce in the opening engagement but does not work if the engagement proceeds. With regards to Abhi - he crossed LOC in pursuit of bandit and was brought down. It goes without saying that he brought down an F16. However this particular truth will come out later - just the way Kargil came out years later.

Your favorite guest, Christian Fair said that when someone is trying hard with complications, it only means they are either covering up or hiding something but then if some people had brains, they would be dangerous.
Firstly what surprised the IAF achieved in regards to Balakot, their biggest surprise was that the Indian authorities were able to count a nice round figure of 350 militants killed across the border within 24 hours yet it took them Eight months to conclude that their own chopper was shot down by Indian defenses.... which happened in their front yard.....And don't go into hiding again once you find the truth of the second jet that went down....even the Americans tried to tell you indirectly ....as regards to Abhi, the poor chap is being made a scapegoat, firstly he had no clue of his position and to this day he hasn't been allowed to tell his own story.
And yes your own Netas tell us that Pakistan still holds 5 Kargil peaks....maybe they are also on ISI payroll.

 

[blain2]

Suppose they killed 350 people in their airstrikes yet not one family came out on the streets about their loved ones? Not one family went out to the bombed out site to find their loved ones? Not one funeral prayer was held anywhere in Pakistan by the loved ones of 350 families (or should I go with 500 families?)! After every drone strike in the FATA, there were these funeral prayers even for the militants (because Muslim families don't give a damn about governments and their games) yet the earth swallowed these 350-500 as per the Indian narrative and their loved ones had no bother.

To top that, the GoP hid these massive casualties because we are to believe it was scared of India. I keep on saying this repeatedly, had the Indian strikes done the damage, an Indian brigade HQ command along with possibly many members of the Indian regional command, who happened to be there perchance, would have been killed in response. There is absolutely no reason why Pakistan would have held back and not pressed home its attack. The PAF aircraft locked, targeted and without any pressure, executed the strike on the designated target sparing Indian lives as they were instructed to do simply because there was no blood shed on the Pakistan side.

If we are to buy the logic that the amazing IAF thwarted Pakistani strikes, why would Pakistan not try again and just stop after the first "failed" attempt? Why would we not hit back after a week? Why would Pakistan not use other platforms to inflict damage on India if the IAF was so superior in the air? This exact same calculus plays out across the LoC to ensure that the score is evened and deterrence is maintained and Pakistan is always good for it (those Indians who serve on the other side know this to be the case). Yet suddenly Pakistan had cold-feet because of the 52 inch chaati wala? Lol!

I mean once you start peeling back the layers of the Indian claims, it becomes very clear that it is purely an exercise to pacify public sentiment in India.

The same goes for the silly F-16 claim. Using that very same logic, Pakistan has a pretty solid claim and ELINT for the IAF Su-30MKI kill.

There are countless pictures of an Indian fighter, its wreckage, its pilot all over Pakistan yet not one photo of the F-16B or its "2" pilots, since its B as we are reminded, is with anyone. The ISI maybe good, but it's not that good to muzzle everything and everyone all over Pakistan and hide all content on social media. We are told it crashed in AK. The entire AK population was alert after the Balakot incident. Yet nobody saw the PAF jet crash.

On top of that, not one person from this so called mob, that thrashed and killed the PAF pilot, was found and arrested. The locals are smart, they ask questions like "recite the kalma" or will ask the pilots to speak in the regional vernacular (Punjabi, Pashtu, Urdu etc.) yet we are told by the Indian side the mob just pounced upon the pilots and killed them in anger. Our pilots wear their name tags (with their muslim names) and their flying wings on their coveralls. The flying wing CLEARLY has the "chaand/sitara" emblazoned on it. Yet the crowd was blind to all this and just killed them because that is the narrative that seems to sooth the Indian mind.

The explanations keep getting more and more humorous.

It is silly and counter productive to have this back and forth but the idiocy of the claims also finds no limits.
At the end of the day, Indians can believe what they must. However they have nothing to show for either the strike doing any serious damage or the supposed shooting down of the PAF aircraft.

I am not even saying that it is not possible for the IAF to conduct strikes and inflict damage, as it has been done in the past wars. I expect Pakistan to take damage in the future as these are acts of wars and the same goes for India. But what happened in Feb. of last year, things did not go the way of the IAF.

 

[Windjammer]

There's no end to Indian idiocy from all the way from the top.
While the IAF tried to carry out strikes in the middle of the night, PAF was bold and daring by going for Indian targets in broad daylight with the entire IAF and Indian defenses wide awake and alert after previous day adventure....this was most embarrassing on its own accord, yet the then IAF Archief in a desperate effort to hide the humiliation went on to ridicule himself further by claiming you execute according to your capability...claiming that while IAF has night strike capability, the PAF lacks this.....even PAF's most ardent critic will enlighten him how the PAF had been conducting day and night strikes for several years in the WOT....but it's Indian psyche that if you can't beat them then humiliate them.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

A good read for Paks to understand the psyche of their arch enemies: "Crude Understanding of Disbelief" by Harun Yahya

 

[anathema]

Your favorite guest, Christian Fair said that when someone is trying hard with complications, it only means they are either covering up or hiding something but then if some people had brains, they would be dangerous.

Christian - who ? Is she a defence personal ? Shes a nobody ! If you want to keep on quoting random goras - be my guest.

Firstly what surprised the IAF achieved in regards to Balakot, their biggest surprise was that the Indian authorities were able to count a nice round figure of 350 militants killed across the border within 24 hours yet it took them

Strategically IAF crossed nuclear rubbicon ! The entire Pakistani narrative that 'Humarein pass bum hain' - went for a toss. Now there is a space of conventional conflict and this suits Indian interests fine. This is the biggest take away for the policy guys and its implication is not lost on Pakistani establishment.
With regards to 350 Militants killed - your guess is as good as mine. But then airspace closure for more than 6 months (Indian air space was absolutely open for civilians) and taking 45 days to take foregin inspectors to a dummy site speaks for itself.

Eight months to conclude that their own chopper was shot down by Indian defenses.... which happened in their front yard.....

Incorrect. It came out within a couple of days that it was a case of fraticide. You see we have pesky reporters who do their job darn fine. So Indian public knew. Officially IAF concluded court of inquiry after the stipulated period.

....as regards to Abhi, the poor chap is being made a scapegoat, firstly he had no clue of his position and to this day he hasn't been allowed to tell his own story.

You see our armed forces are not corporations ! They are not in it for plots and plum retirement postings. So unlike Pakistani armed forces - we are not in the business of parading operational pilots for questions. But having said that i am sure an interview will come out soon.

And yes your own Netas tell us that Pakistan still holds 5 Kargil peaks....maybe they are also on ISI payroll.

Kargil peaks ..pffff. Keep them. For me - bombing the retreating NLI (ooopps mujahidin) served the purpose.