Ex-chief of army, Gen VK Singh, no longer has security or bullet-proof car

[acetophenol]

while he was in the front fighting enemies and terrorists,there was no one around him with bullet proof cars and securityguards and "z+" security.surely he can handle himself.

Lets add more security to our politicians because,we all know humpty dumpty,when they fall they break and ain't not come back!

 

[Markus]

Hardly, it is common practice for such officials to be given a certain period of extened cover after leaving officers and this period varies from office to office ie PMs are given 5 years of SPG cover after leaving office COAS seem to get 6 months (May-November)after this period an assessment is made whether to extend this cover based on threat perceptions to the particular individual. This is common practice. It seems the IA came to the conclusion that VK's didn't warrant extension- this is their prerogative.

Try and keep your objectivity and don't let your political affiliations/persuasions/bias cloud your judgement. Not everything is a Congress/GoI conspiracy sir.

The article clearly states the threat perception was measured by the Home Ministry and not the army. There is no fixed tenure to give protection after retirement, it all depends on threat perception. If you think otherwise, then you may need to prove it. Its very evident this govt. has a bias against the general and they will not hesitate to make him vulnerable.

Everybody has a right to express their opinion, if you have a problem with that, you are advised to keep it to yourself.

India today needs individuals who can stand up question each govt. move since its our money that they use to run the country and the citizens have every right to know. The government already has lot of pet dogs (many of them are present on this forum itself), please don't try to get your self enrolled in that department, sir!

 

[Markus]

Dude its not just COngress.....Our entire political system has been hijacked by corrupt elements dont fool yourself. Its just two sides of the same coin. General Singh is fuking up the "money pot" for both parties. Have you forgotten Defence Minister Fernadez under BJP?

They are clearly doing this to malign the great general. How come you never hear no action against General Kapoor and his scandals involving T90's? You don;t hear a stinking peep from our govt and the media? He ordered sub standard tanks rights before he left office. Why did they even allow to push such a dal so fast. Nothing rarely goes fast in our weapons procurement. What about Adarsh housing scandal? This involves a range of military personnel. Wake up. You don;t even hear a peep about the Swiss banks and our money which is slowly being pushed to other banks quietly. Of course when it comes out you wont find out anything.

I really doubt the sincerity of some of you posters on this forum. Some of you Indians are blindly patriotic, dumb, or you truly see the BS going on. Some of you posters I particularly feel are working for the Govt of India to push disinformation in internet forums like this. I have never seen a govt so defensive about an anti corruption movement unless they are trying to protect vested interests. Think about it Kiran Bedi is an outstanding ex police official. None of us can malign her in anyway at all. Yet, she is proudly walking firm with Anna.

I have told you before Rape is becoming ridiculous in India and so is the trafficking of sex slaves. I pointed out how archaic the laws are. Nobody even acknowledged it. Instead, they toed an interesting media/govt line, how we have lower rapes than Western nations. When we want to compare we only focus on aspects that portray us in a positive light. At least ppl are getting pissed off. My grandparents and parents generation didn;t see the amount of rape crimes we see today. We blame pubs and clubs but we need to blame our society. The only effective way to deal with rape is death. Stop defending against the death penalty. Those arguements fall on deaf hears. Criminals dont care if they hurt or kill us so why should we. Our greatest leaders in INdian history used capital punishment, so should we.

I never said its only the Congress and I am no BJP supporter.

Congress is doing it against VK SIngh, BJP did it against Admiral Bhagwat.

But its very evident that Congress is playing games with someone's security.

 

[trinity]

Aiming for "BEST"??shouldn't be aiming pairty.
What does that mean and regarding what ???Is that "we" inclusive of native Indians or exclusive of them.
You yourself have put question mark by putting "IF TRULY" you are interested.No doubt you may have better access to education and high tech ,you may mingle more with rest of the world ,but does that mean we need to outsource our R&D to you guys or formentation of our foreign policy should be outsourced to NRIs. No definitely not since we ourselves only are in position to judge better the outcome of our policies, drafts and bear their positive or negative outcomes .

All I am trying to say aim to be the best not just catch up to the rest. Its a pretty simple statement. As for the others points, I was referring to all Indians. Its doesn;t matter if you are in India or outside, we are all one. Do you know other countries do a great deal to give their own blood dual citizenship? Look at Israel and how any Israeli or Jew wherever has an allegiance to Israel first and foremost, no matter what country they stay in. They do that because Israel carefully cultivates and strengthens the bonds. Look at the mandatory defence training for all youngsters. I put "if truly" because not every person may feel the need to help and thus wont be of much help. No one is asking you outsource R&D, govt policy, etc. YOur words not mine. The point is take everything and anything into consideration, so own own govt can formulate better comprehensive policies. Wrong again, India whevever will feel the outcomes if it is negative or positive. We all have family, bonds, interests, property, wealth, etc. in India. It may be different generations down the road, but not at this point. The future depends on how well India grasps this and what it does to encourage this bond.

 

[Arav_Rana]

Mate, pls tell me, what exactly is the definition of a Govt. in ur mind?? do u think people in the GOI have come from mars?? NO, we have elected them to rule us, if u are not liking there conduct than no one else but u are responsible for the mess, if u don't like what they are doing than there is a simple thing u can do - Don't re-elect them. But what will Violent protests do?? does it serve any purpose??NO, it will only ruin the image of the country which u & i love in front of the world who look upto India as the next emerging powerhouse. Pls understand Govt. is not an organisation of few people but a system of which 120 crore people are very much part of it, if u are not part of it than think again as to why u defend GOI's decisions when some member of other nationality accuses it of something.

As for Lokpal, no i m not afraid, but can u give a written guarantee that 10 people will not do what 800 people were doing in ur opinion.

For rape convict u are again asking for the same treatment which i questioned in my earlier post.

Don't take me wrong but this is the most easiest & most abused statement - "Our whole system is corrupt", as i said before, u r very much part of this SYSTEM & if u think that it has gone corrupt than i ask u have u ever done anything to change it even .000000000000001%?? Accusation is the easiest part while reform/change/correction is the most difficult one.

Do we expect anything extra from any government ? Look at any state or center government. Can you say that this government is working up to it's level ? 1 old guy Anna with many people kept fast for 9 days and no government body came to talk to him. On other hand side center government ministers jumped to protect nation son in law. You said public elected them, Does public have any option. IN earlier days people used to say that MMS is good leader, now see he is one of most corrupt leader. Politicians re core corrupt. They are using government system to protect them self and hide their corruption. AAP party is trying to better.
You said violent protesters . Well What if the violent was not started by real protesters but was triggered by some outside element. Btw have you been in this protest ? You just saw news and you claimed this. Few days back i already said that NSUI members were involved and they triggered violence. They went in front and many people from this wings were also came, They fight with police and asked protesters to go violence. But most interesting thing was Police beat every one including children, women, old but they didn't touch these NSUI leader. Means these leder that time were on front but police didn't beat them. Media said that they met protester but in reality they met to NSUI leader only and said to media looks we have met the protesters but they are not listening. [ Off topic- Congress spend 40 crore on DU election ].
Look at police statement about their own constable death. How many times they changed their statement on this. When a police force is playing with his own policeman death, can you expect the safety of people from such people. ?
Our HM refused to met them and call them moist. And said that he don't have time. But yeah he has time to give stupid comments. Our PM - " Theek hai "...
1 dialogue we were shouting while protest was " desh ka yova jag gaya, rahul gandhi kahan gaya "
Protest should happens. This ll help public to know. And bro whatever you see in media, don't trust them blindly.

About Lokpal Bill - We can find a sol'n to stop this problem. BTW only 10 people ll not control this system. And this system ll help to deal with a lot of corruption. Politicians should fear from public and law. They should know that they are not above law.

About Rape- Death sentence is important. You said that rapist ll kill women. Well May be rapist ll not commit crime in fear of death sentence. How can you say that rapist is 100% sure that he really wanna rape at his life cost ? Some psychos are there but this ll stop the crime.
Off topic and don't take it personally bro but tell me what we ll do with a guy who fucked your a$$ ?


Our whole system is corrupt. Yeah we all know but in weekend we can do something better. Join any moment that is trying to do better Asking other the % of good work ll not help. What do you think about these protesters ? Join some day and you ll see most of them are like us only. They are students, job workers etc.

 

[Koovie]

1. You cant give him security for ever. He is a ex soldier. Security for officers involved in highly controversial ops like Bluestar is something different though.

2. The government does not like him, why? Because he tried to interfere in political affairs. And this was wrong. He has nothing to do in this field.

 

[Lyrical Mockery]

I don't think any politics by the congress party is involved.

 

[Contract Killer]

And that Bugg*r Robert has Zplus security.

It happens only in India.