Every movie rewrites history. What American Sniper did is much, much worse

[jhungary]

He probably started killing random people to raise his death count.

you do know sniper kills, unlike rhe kills we normal soldier have have to be logged and verified, right? You can kill random people to pad the count, or its just another BS spet?

 

[C130]

He probably started killing random people to raise his death count, with all the civillian killings that happened by soldiers and mercenaries they try to make it look better with such a movie, anyway that's no news from the US.

right

 

[jhungary]

I dont really care if you hate american, but what is the point of hating chris kyle? dude, thats really something new

 

[1000]

you do know sniper kills, unlike rhe kills we normal soldier have have to be logged and verified, right? You can kill random people to pad the count, or its just another BS spet?

1 tactic used by American snipers was placing an object on the ground and waiting for it to be picked up, those that picked it up and walked away with it would be shot, this was explained on a video but even the person in the vid admitted that's no way to determine an 'insurgent'.

Logging kills doesn't show who the targets were, also when they're allowed to engage at will than they don't ask permission for every 1 target.

 

[jhungary]

1 tactic used by American snipers was placing an object on the ground and waiting for it to be picked up, those that picked it up and walked away with it would be shot, this was explained on a video but even the person in the vid admitted that's no way to determine an 'insurgent'.

Logging kills doesn't show who the targets were, also when they're allowed to engage at will than they don't ask permission for every 1 target.

lol can you elabroate more on how you put down an object and then wait for someone to pick it up the obnect and shoot him.

If they do really do that, all sniper will have 300 or 600 kills. I have 6 confirm kills with the US Army, i think i know better how to confirm a kill than you do buddy

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

The movie's central moral metaphor is voiced by Kyle's father during a flashback to his childhood. There are, he explains, three types of people in the world: wolves, sheep, and sheepdogs. The evil wolves threaten the sheep. The sheep are good people, but vulnerable to harm because they're too naive to understand that evil exists. That means that it's up to the sheepdogs to protect them from harm.

The sheep are the cause of the current reign of warmongering Democrats and Republicans and unnecessary interfering of other countries. It's past time for the wolves to start herding the sheep and feed on the sheepdogs.

Agree, military guys see war movies from valour perspective, we civis always bring politics in it.

Oops, guilty.

 

[AgentOrange]

lol can you elabroate more on how you put down an object and then wait for someone to pick it up the obnect and shoot him.

If they do really do that, all sniper will have 300 or 600 kills. I have 6 confirm kills with the US Army, i think i know better how to confirm a kill than you do buddy

It's known as "baiting." Read more.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/25/world/middleeast/25abuse.html?fta=y&_r=0

 

[1000]

lol can you elabroate more on how you put down an object and then wait for someone to pick it up the obnect and shoot him.

If they do really do that, all sniper will have 300 or 600 kills. I have 6 confirm kills with the US Army, i think i know better how to confirm a kill than you do buddy

Not all snipers have a personal record to reach.

If I saw stuff there I might have picked it up, doesn't mean i'm going to kill everyone with it, what a retarded logic by those marksman.

 

[AgentOrange]

right

Do you believe Kyle's claim that he killed 30 Americans during Hurricane Katrina?

The 'American Sniper's' preposterous post-Katrina New Orleans story: Jarvis DeBerry | NOLA.com

 

[1000]

It's known as "baiting." Read more.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/25/world/middleeast/25abuse.html?fta=y&_r=0

So guess the number of civillians killed by Chris Kyle and his likes due to this baiting stuff, picking up things and walking away ( to home showing it to others ) doesn't make someone a terrorist, but once again the general retarded logic where foreign life's are worth nothing. A small part of the many warcrimes.

 

[Jungibaaz]

As a film, it was really PG childish plot, boring and repetitive, with extra gore and glorified, self-righteous violence.
The ending saved the film from being utterly disappointing, it was a dramatic end, as far as making a good film goes, minus the politics.

Nonetheless, the entire thing was predictable. I saw everything coming, called it out well in advance, I thought maybe Clint Eastwood would do a better job. But err, I guess I was wrong, only the ending was half decent.

And as for the politics. Yes, it was pretty much a filthy piece of propaganda. One thing it did do well is that it correctly portrayed PTSD and other issues these men face.

Other than the ending and that aspect. I hated it.

America Sniper is a good movie
Chris Kyle is a hero.

You should see the book, and do some research on him. Curious to see what you're opinion would be then.

 

[ozzy22]

His a hero. He protected the USA by killing people thousands of miles away that were no threat to America and was part of a war that achieved nothing but death and destruction and made the world a less safer place. Where's his parade?

Here’s an interesting comment that I found on reddit about Chris Kyle.


He said he'd like to kill anyone holding a Koran (no, this isn't out of context), and that he didn't give a flying **** about Iraqis. While he was a SEAL, him and his buddies would go to bars, get drunk, and beat the shit out of civilians. He was arrested 7-8 times (just going by the incidents he mentions in the book, there may be more) and each time charges were conveniently dropped. He casually writes this with no sense of remorse or regret conveyed.

His huge philosophical debate that is present throughout the book with his wife is laughable: He thinks your priorities in life should be God, Country, then family, whereas his wife thinks it should be God, family, then Country.

In his book he actually has the audacity to repeat the saying that SEALs are supposed to be silent professionals, when he was neither.

E: The exact quote was "I don't shoot people with Korans - I'd like to, but I don't." The other one was, talking about protecting American interests and saying he wasn't in Iraq for the Iraqis, "I don't give a flying **** about Iraqis". He was a drunk who liked to beat on civilians without repercussion.

The movie was a fluff piece - his father straight up said to Clint Eastwood and Bradley Cooper that if they made Chris look bad he'd unleash hell on them."

 

[C130]

So guess the number of civillians killed by Chris Kyle and his likes due to this baiting stuff, picking up things and walking away ( to home showing it to others ) doesn't make someone a terrorist, but once again the general retarded logic where foreign life's are worth nothing. A small part of the many warcrimes.

war is war. no right or wrong.
meanwhile a car bomb just went off in a market place killing who knows how many innocent or bad the bomber was a 12 year kid......both sides hands are drenched in blood.

we can argue politics and ethics all day.

neither side is right

 

[jhungary]

It's known as "baiting." Read more.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/25/world/middleeast/25abuse.html?fta=y&_r=0

i am aware of this tactics lol

What you probably dont know and what i just said is, normal soldier does not have the same "confirm kills" policy then the SF sniper, and i do saw normal dude pull an AK to justify shooting. Cos there are no "confirm kills" policy and there are nobody to confirm the kills. Soldier do that to justify kills.

Soldier attached to SF unit do have a confirm kills policy and a team of SF include 1 officer and 1 specialist would go out and do battle assessment and credit kills to their own party. A log would then verified with the Sniper team on duty at that AO that day.

On the other hand, baiting is a legit policy we use in Iraq and afghanistan, while placing an item of military value on the floor, we shoot whoever apporach it and took it, but the goal is not shoot to kill, but rather wounding them so we can interrogate them.

 

[ozzy22]

war is war. no right or wrong.

If that’s the case why don’t you just nuke Iraq? Keep your dumb comments to yourself.