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Europe’s Terror Blowback: From Charlie Hebdo to Manchester Bombing

For London & manchest, such things are Not simply terrorist activities, but a way of expressing dissatisfaction with the demands of the oppressed group

Europe should think more how to make people live peacefully together in a complicated society or world

The old west way,if you don't obey,I will bring you democracy,maybe it is not a good way in today's world

We are angry with what the terrorist have done in Europe,but can we understand their angry of millions lost,home destruction in Iraq/Libya etc which have been done to them by USA/UK/France
 
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For London & manchest, such things are Not simply terrorist activities, but a way of expressing dissatisfaction with the demands of the oppressed group

Europe should think more how to make people live peacefully together in a complicated society or world

The old west way,if you don't obey,I will bring you democracy,maybe it is not a good way in today's world

We are angry with what the terrorist have done in Europe,but can we understand their angry of millions lost,home destruction in Iraq/Libya etc which have been done to them by USA/UK/France
Europe should think more how to make people live peacefully together? Europe should kick all of these people out, The kind of people that starts beheading people, blowing things up among civilians, crashing into civilians with cars and chasing pedestrians with knives when they feel that they are oppressed, doesn't have the right to even be treated like a human at all. Also, you can spare us this Iraq/Libya invasion nonsense, This is just a lame excuse.
 
Europe should think more how to make people live peacefully together? Europe should kick all of these people out, The kind of people that starts beheading people, blowing things up among civilians, crashing into civilians with cars and chasing pedestrians with knives when they feel that they are oppressed, doesn't have the right to even be treated like a human at all. Also, you can spare us this Iraq/Libya invasion nonsense, This is just a lame excuse.
But European always say such things to China government ,when Chinese civilians got chopped and beheaded on the streets of China by some so-called "oppressed" group.
 
Press TV is more credible than BBC (source) and other English fake news media outlets.


Libyans say UK caused Manchester bombing

Date of publication: 29 05 2017, 16:06

Tripoli, Libya. In a rare interview the son of the Lockerbie 747 bomber has warned that Britain faces an unprecedented wave of terror attacks from Libya, as he claimed the UK brought the Manchester attack on itself.

Pan Am Flight 103 was a regularly scheduled Pan Am transatlantic flight from Frankfurt to Detroit via London and New York. On 21 December 1988, the aircraft operating the transatlantic leg of the route, was destroyed by a bomb, killing all 243 passengers and 16 crew, in what became known as the Lockerbie bombing.

In 1999, Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi handed over the two men for trial. In 2001, Libyan intelligence officer Abdelbaset al-Megrahi was jailed for life after being found guilty of 270 counts of murder in connection with the bombing. In August 2009, he was released by the Scottish government on compassionate grounds after being diagnosed with prostate cancer. He died in May 2012, the only person to be convicted for the attack.

The son of the bomber Khaled al-Megrahi said his country had become a rich recruiting ground for terrorists and that there was “only a sea” between them and Europe.

The comments came after a week after Salman Abedi, 22, carried out a suicide attack at a pop concert at Manchester Arena, leaving 22 dead and dozens injured.

The son of Libyan parents who were granted refuge from Gaddafi in the UK in the early 1990s, he is thought to have come back to Britain from Libya just days before the massacre.

Speaking from his home in the Libyan capital Tripoli, Mr Megrahi said: “It was Manchester but tomorrow it will be some other place. “The militants will kill each other here and then come to each city in the west. “A lot of Libyans are hungry, have no money and no justice. If the West continues its stance you will see a lot of the militants coming to the UK.” Megrahi forecasted.

Britain joined a coalition of countries bombing Libya in support of the opposition in the wake of the 2011 Arab Spring uprising. A British parliamentary report last year found that the military intervention, ordered by former Prime Minister David Cameron, relied on flawed intelligence and hastened the North African country’s political and economic collapse.

Mr Megrahi urged the West to resume air strikes on the militants to curb the country’s growing extremist networks. “The West knows what’s happening in Libya but they only want to watch and see. You make Libya like this. You will see a lot of terrorists in the UK and everywhere.” Megrahi concluded.
Source: https://en.news-front.info/2017/05/29/libyans-say-uk-caused-manchester-bombing/
All news sources are biased including Press TV and RT. But I do agree with you I would not trust the BBC or CNN.
 
That's going to be slightly problematic: she resides in an urn. Nevertheless, her credibility is undisputedly better than both PressTV and the Beeb. But you're just going to have to take my word for it.

Your word is not a proof.

What exactly was your 'proof' again, that supports this claim?
:smart:

Watch video I linked. It shows that English state founded propaganda bullhorn BBC has no credibility at all.
BTW have you ever heard about “sir” Jimmy Savile from BBC.

For London & manchest, such things are Not simply terrorist activities, but a way of expressing dissatisfaction with the demands of the oppressed group

Europe should think more how to make people live peacefully together in a complicated society or world

The old west way,if you don't obey,I will bring you democracy,maybe it is not a good way in today's world

We are angry with what the terrorist have done in Europe,but can we understand their angry of millions lost,home destruction in Iraq/Libya etc which have been done to them by USA/UK/France

English propaganda is crying because a few English people died in London but they don’t care about millions of people killed by England and USA in Iraq, Afganistan and many other countries. England and USA are even using depleted uranium in Afganistan to contaminate this country (source). England is root cause of terrorism.

But please remember that there are many good countries in Europe like Poland or Russia.

But European always say such things to China government ,when Chinese civilians got chopped and beheaded on the streets of China by some so-called "oppressed" group.

Not Europeans but some media in some countries in Europe like English state founded propaganda bullhorn BBC. There is already great thread about how BBC and other thugs defend terrorists attacks against China:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/western-medias-terror-defense.478514/

It's important to condemn all terrorists attacks. But pathological liars from BBC and some other mainstream media from England and USA condemn terrorists attacks against England but defend terrorists attacks against China and Russia.
 
I just want to post this nice video here, In which Fareed Zakaria explains the root cause of our problems: Money wh0re leaders that can be bought and sold with money.
 
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Your word is not a proof.
Neither is yours. But are you questioning my dead mom now?

Watch video I linked. It shows that English state founded propaganda bullhorn BBC has no credibility at all.
One video, from a source that can hardly be claimed neutral. Adressing only part of your claims at best. As I said, meager, very meager.

BTW have you ever heard about “sir” Jimmy Savile from BBC.
Sure. Just do not see what childmolestation would have to do with the credibility of BBC news as we get it today. It's like saying "well, Henry Ford was antisemitic therefor Ford cars suck".
 
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But European always say such things to China government ,when Chinese civilians got chopped and beheaded on the streets of China by some so-called "oppressed" group.
Well, China's government would be very idiot if it listens to the Europeans.
 
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All news sources are biased including Press TV and RT. But I do agree with you I would not trust the BBC or CNN.

IMO Press TV and RT are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more credible than BBC or CNN (friends of Jimmy Savile).

You're right that no news sources are 100 % credible. Thats why I prefer to crosscheck news by using diferent sources like RT, Global Times or Press TV

Neither is yours. But are you questioning my dead mom now?

It’s you who brought her here.

One video, from a source that can hardly be claimed neutral. Adressing only part of your claims at best. As I said, meager, very meager.

Said video shows lies from BBC itself. BBC was also caught lying about “Polish concentration camps” (source).


Sure. Just do not see what childmolestation would have to do with the credibility of BBC news as we get it today. It's like saying "well, Henry Ford was antisemitic therefor Ford cars suck".

Many people at BBC were aware what he was doing.


And going back to topic:

Muslims, regular victims of terror attacks: Commentator
Sun Jun 4, 2017 2:12PM

Sukant Chandan, a filmmaker and political commentator, says Prime Minister Theresa May is using the terrorist organizations directly supported by “leading Western regimes” in order to target the Muslim community in Britain, adding that Muslims are always the victims of terrorism globally.

"Theresa May’s speech today is a green light to racist to go for Muslims, it is a green light for the state to go for Muslims and it is a green light for racism amongst the population to target Muslims. Her rhetoric of 'Islamic extremism' … is just a very clear anti-Muslim, racist, Islamophobic rhetoric that is set to divert people’s attention [away from] the Tory government’s own complicity in terrorism throughout the Muslim world and their own collusion with terrorist communities in this country,” Chandan told PressTV in an interview on Sunday.

Source: http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/...ims-Theresa-May-speech-terrorism-Islamophobia
 
IMO Press TV and RT are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more credible than BBC or CNN (friends of Jimmy Savile).
Well, that does say something about your ability to seperate fact from fiction....
CNN too now a friend of Juimmy Savile?

It’s you who brought her here.
That does not somehow give you the right to be disrespectful to her, thank you.

Said video shows lies from BBC itself. BBC was also caught lying about “Polish concentration camps” (source).
If you call referring to Ausschwitz as 'the Polish concentration camp' (rather than 'one of the concentration camps in Poland') a lie .... Incidentally, there is no plural used in your source "evidence". And, face it, there were in fact a great many concentration- and deathcamps located in Poland.

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Map of SS-designated concentration camps and subcamps, 1933–1945. Each large dot represents the main camp with the smaller dots referencing subcamps. The original map is animated to show the expansion of the camp system over time (Data source: The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos, Vol. 1 [2009]). —Alexander Yule and Anne Kelly Knowles
https://www.ushmm.org/learn/mapping...aust/mapping-the-ss-concentration-camp-system


The history of the Jews in Poland dates back over 1000 years. For centuries, Poland was home to the largest and most significant Jewish community in the world. Poland was the centre of Jewish culture thanks to a long period of statutory religious tolerance and social autonomy. This ended with the Partitions of Poland which began in 1772, in particular, with the discrimination and persecution of Jews in the Russian Empire. During World War II there was a nearly complete genocidal destruction of the Polish Jewish community by Nazi Germany and its collaborators, during the 1939–1945 German occupation of Poland and the ensuing Holocaust. Since the fall of Communism in Poland there has been a Jewish revival, characterized by the annual Jewish Culture Festival, new study programmes at Polish high schools and universities, the work of synagogues such as the Nozyk, and the Museum of the History of Polish Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland

We all know concentration camps were instituted by NaziGerman occupiers.
We also know there were local collaborators.
The so-called evidence of BBC lying about Polish concentration camps is bs.

Many people at BBC were aware what he was doing.
Perhaps. But you would still have to show how that affected/affects their news reporting in general.
 

LMAO, hilarious skit by Steven Crowder. :rofl:

This guy is pretty good. Amazing what's happening in the US these days wrt political commentary, you have the uncool preachy sjw moralists and paranoid "Russia hacked the elections" loons and vulgar comedians on the left.

What a role reversal from back in the 90s when the right there was full of bible thumping homophobic moralists whose ideas the younger generation soundly rejected.

Guess things truly do move in cycles.

A resurgent right in Europe though, hmm

What do you think, @Penguin ?
 
Mike Arnold
Global War on Terrorism is bogus
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Global War on Terrorism is bogus

Former UK GCHQ and MoD employee lifts the lid on GWOT. I am most grateful to you all for your posti...

The many victims have my deepest sympathy for their losses and considerable pain.

I have seen this pattern repeated many times since I was a crown civil servant and the murder of WPC Yvonne Fletcher. I am now merely a victim and a blackmail patsy for British Intelligence.

Overwhelming circumstantial evidence now points to the London Bridge attack having been a British Intelligence ‘false flag’ executed by very nasty terrorists who were themselves tricked into wearing fake bomb vests.

Mr Ken Brigden when head of CES5 (DERA, MoD, UK) ‘planted’ and ‘pipelined’ a similar scenario with me. Together with other factors and dialogues including one immediately prior to this attack, means that the London Bridge attack was carefully planned by UK Secret Services; as was the recent Manchester bombing and Westminster Bridge attacks.

Regarding the recent London Bridge attack, the Police should have neutralised the terrorists with head shots and then sent in the Bomb Squad.

What we actually see in the released pictures are the Police sending colleagues over to inspect the ‘downed’ terrorists. Having immobilised the terrorists, the Police should have keep a safe distance, established eyes-on and sniper positions. And then sending in the Bomb Squad only when it was established that the terrorist were dead. What we see are ‘crazy’ Police Officers going right up to the ‘downed’ terrorists. This was just plain stupid of them.

Also the way that two Police Officers run out to the dead terrorists in front of their own line, strongly implies that this was a pre-prepared ambush. This doesn’t fit with the initial narrative of the Police Firearms team being directed into the market by a member of the public.

This overwhelming circumstantial evidence points to the Police knowing that the bomb vests were fakes. The only way that they could have known this was from UK Secret Services (e.g. MI5, GCHQ, etc.) with advance knowledge, i.e. that it was a ‘false flag’ and the terrorists had fake bomb vests.

Equally it makes no sense for 3 frantic terrorists working as a team wearing fake bomb vests. Evidence shows that there are very few people willing to tackle one man bearing a knife let along 3 working as a team.

This recent incident is merely one in a long series of similar attacks that were equally British Intelligence ‘false flags’.

At an obvious level these attacks serve the Security State, Politicians, Military and the Neocons.

At a much deeper level, the Intelligence Community are using these attacks for blackmail leverage on our Politicians and over-hawkish Neocons. Hence the bizarre repeated failures and coincidences which are in fact not coincidences. Only crucial coincidences are hidden from the general public. When all taken together, there are too many coincidences for these attacks to be anything other than British Intelligence ‘false flags’.

It is unfortunately this simple and clear to those of us knowing other important facts.

To those of us with other important facts t is unfortunately this simple and clear that these are British Intelligence ‘false flags’.

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IMO Theresa May and English Police are the most likely suspects behind recent attacks in England.

QUESTION: Will the London triple attacks increase racial and ethnic tensions in the West, while also pushing the public into accepting a more direct military intervention in Syria – if so, who benefits the most from this latest attack?
source:http://www.globalresearch.ca/london-bridge-attacks-who-knew-who-benefits-the-most/5593338

People behind recent attacks in England managed to spread Islamophobia:

Islamophobic crimes in UK rise fivefold after London terror attack
Wed Jun 7, 2017 6:18PM

The number of Islamophobic crimes in the UK has increased dramatically following the recent terror attacks in London, police figures show.

There has been a fivefold rise in hate crimes against Muslims across Britain in the days since Sunday’s London Bridge terror attack, where assailants ran over pedestrians and went on a stabbing spree at a nearby restaurant, killing 7 people and injuring 48 more, The Independent reported Wednesday.

On Tuesday, police officers handled 20 crimes specifically targeted at Muslims, while the average for such crimes was 3.5 on a daily basis in 2017.

As a whole, there were 54 racially charged crimes on Tuesday, compared to the daily average of 38 this year.

The number of crimes also exceeded the levels recorded in the aftermath of the Paris attacks in November 2015 and the murder of British Army soldier Lee Rigby in May 2013, the report added.

Muslim community leaders had already warned of a hike in hate crimes following last month’s bombing at a concert in Manchester, which killed 22 people and injured around 120.

A similar rise in Islamophobia was reported in March, after terrorists killed five people in another car and knife attack.

Fiyaz Mughal, founder of Islamophobic helpline Tell Mama, warned of a “measurable and large spike” following the latest attack in London.

“We know from all of the terrorist attacks since 2011 that anti-Muslim hatred spikes sharply in our country after them,” he told The Independent.

“Terrorists are trying to divide our communities and society. People who target innocent Muslims who have nothing to do with extremism or terrorism are playing into the hands of Islamist extremist terrorists. This is what they want – divided societies and communities,” he added.

UK Prime Minister Theresa May has pinned the attacks on “evil Islamist extremism” and has pledged to fight this “perversion of Islam and the truth.”
Source: http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/06/07/524525/UK-Islamophobia-hate-crimes-London-attack

It's importaint to remember that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism. Some evil people are using terrorism to tarnish Muslims
 

Mike Arnold
Global War on Terrorism is bogus
22 hrs ·


14725472_1799992256938312_696676821193985386_n.jpg

Global War on Terrorism is bogus

Former UK GCHQ and MoD employee lifts the lid on GWOT. I am most grateful to you all for your posti...

The many victims have my deepest sympathy for their losses and considerable pain.

I have seen this pattern repeated many times since I was a crown civil servant and the murder of WPC Yvonne Fletcher. I am now merely a victim and a blackmail patsy for British Intelligence.

Overwhelming circumstantial evidence now points to the London Bridge attack having been a British Intelligence ‘false flag’ executed by very nasty terrorists who were themselves tricked into wearing fake bomb vests.

Mr Ken Brigden when head of CES5 (DERA, MoD, UK) ‘planted’ and ‘pipelined’ a similar scenario with me. Together with other factors and dialogues including one immediately prior to this attack, means that the London Bridge attack was carefully planned by UK Secret Services; as was the recent Manchester bombing and Westminster Bridge attacks.

Regarding the recent London Bridge attack, the Police should have neutralised the terrorists with head shots and then sent in the Bomb Squad.

What we actually see in the released pictures are the Police sending colleagues over to inspect the ‘downed’ terrorists. Having immobilised the terrorists, the Police should have keep a safe distance, established eyes-on and sniper positions. And then sending in the Bomb Squad only when it was established that the terrorist were dead. What we see are ‘crazy’ Police Officers going right up to the ‘downed’ terrorists. This was just plain stupid of them.

Also the way that two Police Officers run out to the dead terrorists in front of their own line, strongly implies that this was a pre-prepared ambush. This doesn’t fit with the initial narrative of the Police Firearms team being directed into the market by a member of the public.

This overwhelming circumstantial evidence points to the Police knowing that the bomb vests were fakes. The only way that they could have known this was from UK Secret Services (e.g. MI5, GCHQ, etc.) with advance knowledge, i.e. that it was a ‘false flag’ and the terrorists had fake bomb vests.

Equally it makes no sense for 3 frantic terrorists working as a team wearing fake bomb vests. Evidence shows that there are very few people willing to tackle one man bearing a knife let along 3 working as a team.

This recent incident is merely one in a long series of similar attacks that were equally British Intelligence ‘false flags’.

At an obvious level these attacks serve the Security State, Politicians, Military and the Neocons.

At a much deeper level, the Intelligence Community are using these attacks for blackmail leverage on our Politicians and over-hawkish Neocons. Hence the bizarre repeated failures and coincidences which are in fact not coincidences. Only crucial coincidences are hidden from the general public. When all taken together, there are too many coincidences for these attacks to be anything other than British Intelligence ‘false flags’.

It is unfortunately this simple and clear to those of us knowing other important facts.

To those of us with other important facts t is unfortunately this simple and clear that these are British Intelligence ‘false flags’.

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Mike Arnold is an extremist and terrorist sympathiser. He needs to be arrested and his hate speech online must be taken down(!).
 

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