European Roma descended from India

[Roybot]

Well, i'm not the type to put forth the second cheek, so....why don't you educate yourself on the gypsy crime stats and then come back to this thread and say they are persecuted only because of skin color.

Am not denying any of that. But the governments should do more for the upliftment of gypsies. They are part of your country, your society, for hundreds of years now.

You should stop treating like outsiders.

 

[INDIC]

I found him I think

Bhains ki eyes, what dafuq I just saw.

 

[Audio]

Here comes a wannable white.

So, you came up with any of my posts that say i'm central Asian or is that more lying that your extended family is so well known of?

Am not denying any of that. But the governments should do more for the upliftment of gypsies. They are part of your country, your society, for hundreds of years now.

You should stop treating like outsiders.

Oh please, you have no clue about what you just said.

 

[INDIC]

So, you came up with any of my posts that say i'm central Asian or is that more lying that your extended family is so well known of?

I came across your old post where you said you are from Kazakhstan. Why are you ashamed of your real nationality, wannable White.

 

[Random Boy]

Your book, the bible, never spoke of homosexuality. God created Adam and Eve who had only male children. From there you can realized that their children are homosexuals. In addition, homosexuality is very normal and is found in many species of animals. If you had done even the most basic of science courses you would learn that. Also, a man without a penis is a eunich not a homosexual.

Homosexuality is a sin in the Bible. Deuteromony says "Whoever sleeps with a man like you sleep with a woman has done the abominational". Also in New Testament in Letter to Romans it states that Same Sex Relations are Unnatural and Result of Rebellion against God.
I know animals practice it too, but to me it is still against order of nature. Animals who do that do the unnatural too. They just cant realise it like humans. I dont mind Animal Homosexuality because they are not able to discern what is right and what is wrong. They lack the intelligence.

 

[Audio]

I came across your old post where you said you are from Kazakhstan. Why are you ashamed of your real nationality, wannable White.

Why don't you link it? ....and it's "wannabe" not "wannable". Your epic English.

 

[INDIC]

Why don't you link it? ....and it's "wannabe" not "wannable". Your epic English.

I will have to look for it, time consuming. LOL! you are still denying.

 

[Audio]

I will have to look for it, time consuming. LOL! you are still denying.

Please, until you find it (which you won't, since i never said it) be quiet. Best of luck searching.

btw, i'll even help you, you pull my posts from forum history and search for "Kazakhstan" keyword on every page. Shouldn't be so time consuming, since mostly you will be just skipping pages.

 

[Random Boy]

Audio is basically saying "gypsies are scum and criminals" and therefore it is impossible that they are discriminated or that they are victims of hate crime, discrimination or persecution.

A 16-year-old Italian girl whose claim that she was raped by Gypsies prompted a furious mob to launch an arson attack on a Turin Roma camp has admitted to police that she invented her story.

Hundreds of residents of the deprived Turin suburb of Vallette took to the streets on Saturday to protest after the girl, who has not been named, claimed she had been dragged behind a building and raped by two Gypsy men.

A splinter group of around 50 residents then marched towards a nearby camp where they reportedly called for all women and children to leave before throwing firecrackers and setting fire to caravans, shacks and cars.

Police officers evacuated the camp moments before the group arrived and no injuries were reported, but fire crews were unable to prevent the camp being destroyed.

The girl's brother, who initially backed her story, arrived with police as the flames grew to announce his sister had confessed to inventing the episode, but his appeal to call off the attack came too late.

Italian daily La Repubblica reported the girl had promised her family she would remain a virgin until she married and lied about the rape after sleeping with her boyfriend.

Built during Italy's postwar boom years to accommodate southern Italian migrants arriving to work in Turin's factories, the Vallette neighbourhood is fringed by fields and sits next to a new football stadium opened this season by Juventus.

Beside the stadium is the site of an old hunting lodge once owned by Italy's former royal family, the Savoys, where Roma people have set up camp, incurring the hostility of locals.

Paola Bragantini, Turin secretary for Italy's centre-left Democratic party, said the mob that attacked the camp at the weekend was made up of hardcore, or "ultra", Juventus supporters, who recently gained notoriety for yelling racist abuse at black Italian footballer Mario Balotelli.

Piero Fassino, the mayor of Turin, denounced the "lynch mob" mentality of the arsonists, but Bragantini suggested they were feeding off resentment of Gypsies, which has become widespread in Italy.

"Those who know only violence and seek any excuse for fighting have exploited the exasperation of the people who have wanted to close down the Gypsy camp for years," said Bragantini, who added that the mob shouted football chants as the camp burned.
Italian girl's rape claim sparks arson attack on Gypsy camp | World news | guardian.co.uk

 

[INDIC]

Why don't you link it? ....and it's "wannabe" not "wannable". Your epic English.

But you got what I meant. Anyway, I didn't learn English slangs in my school.

Please, until you find it (which you won't, since i never said it) be quiet. Best of luck searching.

btw, i'll even help you, you pull my posts from forum history and search for "Kazakhstan" keyword on every page. Shouldn't be so time consuming, since mostly you will be just skipping pages.

I remember in that thread people were blaming you as an Indian, you said you are from Kazakhstan.

 

[Random Boy]

But you got what I meant. Anyway, I didn't learn English slangs in my school.



I remember in that thread people were blaming you as an Indian, you said you are from Kazakhstan.

A White supremacist kazakh lol

 

[Joe Shearer]

Aww. You seem to have a lot of experience with scum. Is it the environment you live in?

It is. And here you are.

 

[Roybot]

Oh please, you have no clue about what you just said.

Enlighten us then. Is there any statistical proof that Gypsies are over represented in crimes? Anecdotal evidence don't count, neither does the rant on stormfront.

Myths and Misconceptions

It is over 500 years since Romany Gypsies arrived in Britain, and 200 years since Irish Travellers first came here. Gypsies and Travellers have lived in and around Newark for centuries – as research into the history of Tolney Lane tells us.

Gypsy and Traveller families have a rich culture, traditions and heritage but myths and misperceptions abound in the public mind and in the media. It sometimes seems to be the case that for many, discrimination against Gypsy and Travellers is the last acceptable form of racism. Below are some of the commonly held beliefs about Gypsies and Travellers and the facts of the matter in each case!


MYTH - Travellers are thieves and criminals!

FACT - There is no evidence of higher crime rates amongst Gypsies and Travellers. Whilst some are involved in crime, just as in any other community, members of the Gypsy and Traveller communities are statistically under represented in the prison population. Media reports and images are often inaccurate and discriminatory.


MYTH - Gypsies are dirty!

FACT - Gypsies and Travellers take pride in cleanliness inside their homes, and have strict rules about different bowls for washing hands, food and different items of clothing. A quarter of Gypsies and Travellers are homeless without access to a legal site and so may have no rubbish collection or other facilities provided.


MYTH - A Travellers’ site ruins the neighbourhood!

FACT - Research shows that relationships between Gypsies and Travellers and the settled community develop effectively where well-designed and well-managed sites are provided.

Homeless Gypsies and Travellers have to stop in unsuitable, often dangerous locations and are constantly moved on. Others may move into housing but often feel isolated and closed in as a result.

Since 1994 there has been no duty on councils to provide sites and Gypsy and Traveller families who try to provide their own have great difficulties getting planning permission. Research estimates that at least 4500 additional pitches are needed nationally.


MYTH - Gypsies and Travellers are work shy!

FACT - Gypsy and Traveller community members often start work young and traditional skills are passed down between generations. There is a strong work ethic within Gypsy and Traveller communities which is based simply on the need to survive and make a living.


MYTH - Gypsies don’t pay tax!

FACT - Like everyone else Gypsies and Travellers pay road tax, VAT on goods and services, and income tax when working or self-employed. They also pay council tax and licence fees on their homes.

Romani Gypsy and Irish Traveller culture often values portable wealth and unlike non-Gypsy culture this wealth is often highly visible but the amount of capital they might have in their homes is worth is far less than the equity many non-Gypsies have and in terms of caravans is constantly depreciating in value.


MYTH - Gypsies and Travellers don’t care about society!

FACT - Gypsies and Travellers are engaged in many paid and voluntary activities supporting local communities and national life. Today, despite barriers to health and education services, increasing numbers of children are enrolled in school.


What do Gypsies and Travellers want?

FACT - Gypsy and Traveller communities want to be allowed to live peacefully as part of British society.

They want:

Recognition that a nomadic or semi-nomadic lifestyle is a legitimate way of living
Fairer representation in the media
An urgent solution to current accommodation problems
Greater acceptance and understanding
Conflicts over Gypsy and Traveller site provision serve the interests of neither the Gypsy and Traveller or settled communities. What is in everyone’s best interests is to resolve problems through education, awareness-raising and mutual understanding.

 

[Audio]

But you got what I meant. Anyway, I didn't learn English slangs in my school.



I remember in that thread people were blaming you as an Indian, you said you are from Kazakhstan.

lol, you're just making stuff up now. There was another indian, his nickname was doc-something, in the early days of me being here he was implying i am from those parts and kept posting a picture of some woman, with insinuations if i remember her. He then asked straight up if i wasn't on some other forums under a different nickname.

Now, run along and find me that post where im say i'm Kazakh and stop being a liar.

A White supremacist kazakh lol

Ja sam pola Slovenac, pola Svajcarac. Tvoj ujak iz Indije prica gluposti.

 

[Random Boy]

Enlighten us then. Is there any statistical proof that Gypsies are over represented in crimes? Anecdotal evidence don't count, neither does the rant on stormfront.

I found this
There is no doubt that racism fans the flames of anti-Rom sentiment. Having South Asian physical features, Roma are darker than most Balkan peoples and thus readily identifiable. Xenophobic nationalist organizations target Roma as a threat to national and racial "purity." Centuries of stereotyping also play a significant role in anti-Rom sentiment which gives rise to individual and group violence. One of the most common stereotypes is that Roma are criminals. In fact, the word tsigan in many European languages means thief or cheater, similar to the English verb "to gyp" (from Gypsy), meaning to cheat. The media reinforce these stereotypes by reporting the ethnicity of Rom criminal suspects while withholding the ethnicity of others. In fact, according to the Project on Ethnic Relations 1992 Report on Roma in Central and Eastern Europe, the rate of conviction for theft is no higher among Roma than the national averages, and the rates for murder and rape are far lower. The few reliable studies of "Gypsy criminality" strongly question the stereotype; a 1982 Hungarian study concluded that while crime by Roma is twice that national average, less than 1.5 percent of Roma commit criminal offenses. A 1991 Hungarian survey claims that the rate of criminal behavior in poor Rom neighborhoods is not higher than the rate in poor non-Rom neighborhoods, suggesting that the most important factor to consider is poverty, not ethnicity. - See more at: Persecution and Politicization: Roma (Gypsies) of Eastern Europe | Cultural Survival